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Seriously_trippin
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Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) 1
#23690929 - 09/29/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.alternet.org/human-rights/shocking-federal-court-rules-you-can-be-denied-job-if-you-have-dreadlocks
In a blow to equal rights in workplaces everywhere in America, a federal appeals court ruled September 15 that rescinding a job offer based on a candidate's refusal to remove her dreadlocks does not constitute racial discrimination on the part of an employer.
The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 3-0 against an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission suit brought on behalf of Chastity Jones. In 2010, Jones was preparing to start a position at Catastrophe Management Systems, an insurance claims processing company, when the human resources department explained the offer came with some specific strings attached. Apparently, Jones could only work at CMS if she agreed to remove her dreadlocks, which a white HR manager claimed violated the company's grooming policy because they “tend to get messy.” Jones refused, and the offer was rescinded.
She then complained to the EEOC, which filed the suit in 2010. The suit argues that withdrawing the job offer constitutes racial discrimination because "dreadlocks are a manner of wearing the hair that is physiologically and culturally associated with people of African descent," therefore the company's demands were not simply a matter of hairstyle restriction, but of racial discrimination. The EEOC called race "a social construct" with "no biological definition." They also argued: "If a white person chose to wear dreadlocks as a sign of racial support for her black colleagues, and the employer applied its dreadlocks ban to that person, she too could assert a race-based disparate treatment claim.”As the Wall Street Journal reported, Catastrophe Management Systems' lawyers accused the EEOC of "indulging in 'novel theories' about race and culture that sounded like a sociological thesis on critical theory, not a valid legal argument."
The court, unfortunately, agreed. Federal law may prohibit discrimination on the basis of race, under Title VII, but courts continue to perform legal gymnastics trying to determine what consitutes said discrimination. A 2014 ruling, which this case upheld, stated that racial discrimination had to be based on "immutable" characteristics—that is, something that can't change, like skin color. The court decided that hairstyles were in fact mutable and that because Jones could physically change her hairstyle, it was legal for CMS to rescind her contract.
Judge Adalberto Jordan admitted that the differences between mutable and immutable are "fine and divisive" and that "there have been some calls for courts to interpret Title VII more expansively by eliminating the biological conception of ‘race’ and encompassing cultural characteristics associated with race.Apparently, however, he could not bring himself to heed this call, and ruled in favor of the company. The EEOC told the Wall Street Journal it is exploring further options.
There was no word on whether any white job applicants were ever rejected by CMS for their "messy" hair.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin] 2
#23690937 - 09/29/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just met a guy with dreads. Total scumbag.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23690941 - 09/29/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Companies have a great deal of discretion when it comes to hiring. They say they are equal rights employers but we know that it's a crock of steaming shit. They just find some other excuse to not hire someone they don't feel is a good fit. It's very difficult to make someone do business with someone they don't care for.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin] 2
#23690965 - 09/29/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zombi3 has dreadlocks
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] 3
#23690973 - 09/29/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good point.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23691106 - 09/29/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: http://www.alternet.org/human-rights/shocking-federal-court-rules-you-can-be-denied-job-if-you-have-dreadlocks
In a blow to equal rights in workplaces everywhere in America, a federal appeals court ruled September 15 that rescinding a job offer based on a candidate's refusal to remove her dreadlocks does not constitute racial discrimination on the part of an employer.
why do all the articles have stock photos of people with dreadlocks?
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23691220 - 09/29/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saw a worker with dreads recently at the store It seems pretty gross
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23691254 - 09/29/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hillary Clinton would do away with right-to-work stuff like this if she's the leader our reptilian overlords choose to take us into the next phase.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#23691261 - 09/29/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most of them have gross personalities too, at least ime.. snobs
I've met some really cool people with dreads tho
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#23691262 - 09/29/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I walked into the hospital for surgery and my doctor had dread locks, I'd probably turn around and walk right out.
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abltsandwich
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23691271 - 09/29/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you walked into a hospital, you probably didn't need the surgery in the first place.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23691277 - 09/29/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They can't stop you from dreading your pubes or ass hair
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Hobozen


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23691279 - 09/29/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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>Apparently, Jones could only work at CMS if she agreed to remove her dreadlocks, which a white HR manager claimed violated the company's grooming policy because they “tend to get messy.” Jones refused, and the offer was rescinded.
Can someone explain what the problem is here? If a company owner doesn't want dreads, so what? It's their business.. I haven't read the rest of the article.so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23691284 - 09/29/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Repertoire89 said: They can't stop you from dreading your pubes or ass hair
Porn industry... could get worse
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abltsandwich
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Hobozen]
#23691290 - 09/29/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone who equates a hairstyle with performance is probably autistic, if not a downy
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: abltsandwich]
#23691294 - 09/29/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Performance isn't everything.
Was that even a serious answer?
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abltsandwich
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Hobozen]
#23691300 - 09/29/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Performance is everything at a job, absolutely. Literally everything falls under the performance category. Anyone judging a hairstyle on a future employee is judging future performance on a hairstyle by definition.
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: abltsandwich] 2
#23691315 - 09/29/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean, can't an employer deny a person a job for like, any reason whatsoever...?
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Hobozen


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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: abltsandwich]
#23691320 - 09/29/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What if someone shaped their hair into a cock? Would that fall under the performance category?
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abltsandwich
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Re: Federal court rules employers can deny a job if a person has dreadlocks. (Real) [Re: Hobozen]
#23691324 - 09/29/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not everyone wants to look like you 
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morrowasted said: I mean, can't an employer deny a person a job for like, any reason whatsoever...?
So? That doesn't contradict anything I've posted at all.
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