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ColonelAngus
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2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist?
#23690880 - 09/29/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had perfect conditions for my first flush, and my tub is now a solid mass of mycelium. When I touch the surface, it still very spongy and moist, so I'm wondering if dunking / soaking is really necessary before the 2nd flush.
I'm keeping all my other light, FAE, and humidity settings the same unless there's an ideal adjustment that anyone would suggest.
thanks,
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23690976 - 09/29/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If it doesn't need a dunk it doesn't need a dunk. I cant come and check for you so you'll have to take your word for it.
There's no universal adjustment, you have to judge that
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23691086 - 09/29/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ColonelAngus said: I had perfect conditions for my first flush, and my tub is now a solid mass of mycelium.
pics bruh?
'perfect conditions' ...? explain
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: mushboy]
#23691189 - 09/29/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can just mist the heck out of it untill the next flush primordia.
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: mushboy]
#23691301 - 09/29/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pics bruh?
'perfect conditions' ...? explain
I mean just that I got the RH dialed in at constant 95%, and plenty of FAE. The spawn was super rhizomorphic, with long strands pointing out everywhere instead of the fluffy stuff I'm used to. My grains had sat too long colonizing because I did 1/2 gallon jars (never again).
There was a ton of myco-pee in the jar.. not sure what effect that has, but seemed to make some yellowish stains on the mycelium for the first flush.
I had really big fruits (for me anyway), with most weighing in at 40-50 g wet, which I'd never seen on my first flush. There were some pretty big spots in the middle that never fruited, but there's a bunch of hyphal knots there, so I'm guessing that's my 2nd flush.
I'll probably just do some misting.. is both misting and fanning daily recommended between flushes? Or should I just keep them in there with 12/12 light and 95% RH?
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23691392 - 09/29/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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so, no pics?
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: mushboy]
#23691589 - 09/29/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said: so, no pics?
Obviously the one with no mushies is now, and the other one is a few days ago before flush #1 ended:
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23691631 - 09/29/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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this made me smile.... any update?
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: seagypseas]
#23691760 - 09/29/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice fatties
did they only grow on the one side? just curious.
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: mushboy]
#23691814 - 09/29/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said: nice fatties
did they only grow on the one side? just curious.
No, about 3-4 in the middle, lots on the sides. I made a mistake and accidentally turned off my mister for about 24 hours, so the middle dried out a bit and a bunch of little knots turned blue and aborted. So I picked them out. Now there's quite a few new healthy looking knots there all over the place.
I just misted and fanned, and I think I'll keep doing that until she's ready for round 2.
I'm slowly getting the hang of things. The h-poo definitely seems to be better than the coir/verm I was doing before.
I also took the first fatty that came out and tried my first clone to agar. I've got 3 dishes going ... fingers crossed. I want to get a decent isolate version, and then I've got some pre-made slants in the fridge awaiting whatever strain I decide I like best.
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23692270 - 09/29/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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95% rh should only be less than an inch from the surface. The substrate should lose moisture and evaporate causing a concentration gradient. Fresh air should wisk away humididy from the substrate and the air in the fruiting chamber should be 50-70% measured with a calibrated hygrometer.


Tell me more about "dialed in"
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23692359 - 09/29/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: 95% rh should only be less than an inch from the surface. The substrate should lose moisture and evaporate causing a concentration gradient. Fresh air should wisk away humididy from the substrate and the air in the fruiting chamber should be 50-70% measured with a calibrated hygrometer.
Tell me more about "dialed in"
I have one of those pet-store electronic hygrometer / power switch things with the sensor on a long cord. I keep it dangling about an inch or two above the surface of the substrate inside my Martha.
I've only got this one tub going right now, so I don't know how I'd manage if I get several tubs going, other than to assume that one tub is like the others.
Maybe my whole thing is too moist and there's not enough evaporation?
I'm not sure how my 1-2 times daily fanning plays into this either.
My other noob grows ( I just started this summer) I'd get tons of tiny pins, then smallish fruits that broke their veils before getting more than a few grams in weight.
This was before I cut bigger slits on all sides of the martha, and also before I started using h-poo and doing more fanning, so I'm sure there's a combination of factors there.
All of this to date has been done with multi-spore syringes, so from what I've learned, this can be a crap-shoot on genetics.
I like the look and size of these new ones, which is why I chose now to use the agar plates I bought to try cloning something.
I'll take all the advice anyone is willing to give based on what I'm describing here.
For the record, I've got the hygrometer / power switch connected to an ultrasonic that sits outside the martha, and runs anytime the RH drops below 94%. I also have an impellor cool mist inside the martha on the bottom shelf that runs I think for 2 minutes every 10 minutes, which I'd like to think is moving enough air around to swap the inside air with fresh a few times per hour.
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23692379 - 09/29/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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P.S. to bodisatta, that's some crazy dense grow in your pictures there!
I notice you picked a whole tub of them and leave the vermiculite stuff on the stems.
Do you scrape or cut that off later? I always lop it off with a razor knife and toss it, but seems like such a waste.
I saved the last batch, and was thinking about making some tea from it, but not sure if I'm asking for some illness from the h-poo or whatever.
Any thoughts?
Thanks..!
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Re: 2nd Flush in Martha - Dunk tub if still very moist? [Re: ColonelAngus]
#23692893 - 09/30/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I saved the last batch, and was thinking about making some tea from it, but not sure if I'm asking for some illness from the h-poo or whatever.
Any thoughts?
Thanks..!
Depends how you got the Hpoo ready in the first place if you ask me... I never minded a bit as I spent a few hours pasteurizing it so always felt it was very safe. Saying that I also worked in milking sheds as a kid and it was not uncommon to get splash back in the face so I may be a bit more use to it than post
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