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Newb Questions for Cultivation
    #23690201 - 09/29/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I live in a tropical climate, in the middle of nowhere. I have no stove (i use fire, so tend to keep things short), but i have access to electric and a kitchen when i go into town.

Keeping this in kind, is there a way to sterilize substrate besides a pressure cooker or building a fire for a number of hours? Would a higher concentrate of peroxide work? Could i microwave? If i had to boul and make a fire, what is the minimun time for sterilization? Here i can only assume the sterilization step is probably the most important since mold can be so prevelant, so any advice would be appreciated!

Also, i could use any recommondations of strains that prefer tropical climates and trusted source of where to find those strains!

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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23690257 - 09/29/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

damn, where you live?

if you have access to electricity you could get a electric portable
heating element thingy and use that for a pressure cooker.

if not an option, just boil jars pf tek style for 1.5 hours. like steaming tons of shirmp.

no peroxide. no microwaving. short cuts/skipping things will mean 100% failure.

any strain should be fine. no woodlovers. they like it colder.

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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mushboy]
    #23690417 - 09/29/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You really need heat to cultivate these guys.  If you live in a tropical climate, though, you can always put spores in a cow's water trough and come by after a month or so.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Psilicon]
    #23691074 - 09/29/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
You really need heat to cultivate these guys.




OP lives in the tropics.. whats your point?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #23691155 - 09/29/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You really need heat to cultivate these guys.




OP lives in the tropics.. whats your point?




Okay.  Let's hear your room temperature sterilization tek.  :llamastare:


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Psilicon]
    #23691188 - 09/29/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you have a pot and a few half pint jars just go pftek.  Just need to steam sterilize the cakes for 90 minutes.  That wouldnt be hard at all with a fire.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23693069 - 09/30/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks yall. I live in Puerto Rico. I assumed sterilization by steaming without a pressure cooking meant 2 plus hours. Maybe i had read it somewhere.

Now the challenge is finding a damn vendor that delivers to PR.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23693109 - 09/30/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I also read that sucsses rates go down the bigger of that jar you use? I only have quart jars....and was even going to go half gallon but didnt. Can someone explain that? If everything is properly sterile, is it just the time risk...that it takes longer for the mycelium to conpletely colonize the space and anything that takes longer just has more risk?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23693265 - 09/30/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I also read that sucsses rates go down the bigger of that jar you use? I only have quart jars....and was even going to go half gallon but didnt. Can someone explain that? If everything is properly sterile, is it just the time risk...that it takes longer for the mycelium to conpletely colonize the space and anything that takes longer just has more risk?




Yeah that is pretty much it.  If something takes more than 30 days to colonize it seems pretty risky IMO.  I think there must be something else to it as well though.  I remember having a hard time doing pint jars in my early years for some reason.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23693429 - 09/30/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

For Pf tek anything above half pint gives a large risk of stalling. I get stalls on half pints occasionally. For your first go if using Pf tek then half pint would be a maximum. You could use pp5 plastic containers if you don't have the glass ware pp5 stuff can go through sterilization so you'll be fine.(PS pp5 containers are everywhere most take away food comes in them just look on the bottom for P.P or PP5)


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23694776 - 09/30/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Those containers are def available here. Thanks! What do you mean by stall? Is it just a lack of nutrients after the mycelium grow out? Stall seems weird but it is fungi. Has a mind of its own. Pftek is traditionally brown rice flour?

I was thinking of experimenting with  making a substrate that was fortified with coffee grounds since nitrogen gives fungi such a kick..it would be a shame to waste spores on my first try from experimenting though.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23694845 - 09/30/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Those containers are def available here. Thanks! What do you mean by stall? Is it just a lack of nutrients after the mycelium grow out? Stall seems weird but it is fungi. Has a mind of its own. Pftek is traditionally brown rice flour?

I was thinking of experimenting with  making a substrate that was fortified with coffee grounds since nitrogen gives fungi such a kick..it would be a shame to waste spores on my first try from experimenting though.




Stalling means the mycellium stops growing more than likely due to lack of proper gas exchange.  Moisture could be another culprit.

For a first try just go basic.  After years of experimenting I found it hardly worth the hassle.  For a first timer it only adds vectors of failure.

substrate recipe should be something like 45%hpoo, 45%verm, 10% gypsum by weight brought to field capacity and pasteurized for 90 minutes.  Easy pleasy lemon squeezy and never fails.  KISS (keep it simple stupid)


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23694879 - 09/30/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wtf is hpoo? Lol is there a thread witj a dictionary of terms?

I will try a simple tested and true recipe for one of the jars.

But...the more i read into it...i may look for a recipe with coco coir
And since i live on an island with coconuts everywhere and i am constantly making coconut oil and cream for the market i may as well make use out of the pesky shells.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23694891 - 09/30/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hpoo = horse manure


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23694926 - 09/30/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Wtf is hpoo? Lol is there a thread witj a dictionary of terms?

I will try a simple tested and true recipe for one of the jars.

But...the more i read into it...i may look for a recipe with coco coir
And since i live on an island with coconuts everywhere and i am constantly making coconut oil and cream for the market i may as well make use out of the pesky shells.





heh...these terms are what my old CCNA teacher would call "job security."

Uhh yeah.  Hpoo can be directly substituted with coco coir.  I have tried it and didn't find it awesome myself but I do live in a town where theres 10 horses per square mile and have lots of experience and technique developed for hpoo.  If coir is easier to find than hpoo then by all means go for it.  I would still recommend the verm and gypsum if you use it.  NO ADDITIVES for the first time.  Spend all your time locking down moisture content.  Moisture content is your number one enemy with substrates.  I err on the dry side myself due to too many over saturated contaminated substrates from my early attempts.

Here is a forgotten video I made a while back on the moisture content I use for hpoo substrates.

In the description that wont show here will tell you that is a hard hard squeeze.  I dont like the gentle squeeze method because gentle is subjective.



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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697202 - 10/01/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hang on I thought op was using Pf tek, which is verm brown rice flour and water. Hpoo etc isn't needed for Pf and a PC isn't needed hence why I figured he was going this way.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697255 - 10/01/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah when I heard substrate fortified with coffee my mind auto went to him spawning his cakes to a bulk.  When he started talking about coir then it only furthered my assumption.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697278 - 10/01/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know what's going on now I'm giving advice for one thing but op may be going a different way :whip:
OP what method have you decided on?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697300 - 10/01/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think op is quite confused himself.  You need to spend a good month or two researching before going foward, especially with your limited resources.  It's going to be tricky but not impossible.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697323 - 10/01/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, bulk. I was going to do pf tek originally, but it makes more sense to do bulk first if i feel confident after my research..plus i am tired of getting ripped off and other friends getting ripped off cause of extreme prices here.

I have decided on a coir verm gyp sub since i want to go bulk and have the coconuts. Started proccessing the coconuts today. May post a diy coconut coir if anyone is interested since i didnt find one when i searched the board.

So.. 45% coir, 45% verm, 10% gyp as suggested probably.

I am still reading..and taking notes.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling] * 1
    #23697329 - 10/01/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, bulk. I was going to do pf tek originally, but it makes more sense to do bulk first if i feel confident after my research..plus i am tired of getting ripped off and other friends getting ripped off cause of extreme prices here.

I have decided on a coir verm gyp sub since i want to go bulk and have the coconuts. Started proccessing the coconuts today. May post a diy coconut coir if anyone is interested since i didnt find one when i searched the board.

So.. 45% coir, 45% verm, 10% gyp as suggested probably.

I am still reading..and taking notes.



How will you sterilize your spawn I thought that was the problem?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697336 - 10/01/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am just going to build a fire. Fuck it. There is enough bamboo. I just didnt want to use that much energy. Building a long fire is tough with the humidity and even out in the country the neighboors dont likw it. But..meh..guess they can deal with it.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697344 - 10/01/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well read until your eyes bleed and then expect to read 5x more.  I see you are feeling confident but your posts really don't show you are anywhere near as knowledgeable as you need to be to start this hobby.  I'm not trying to be mean, but you really should spend 20 bux and pick up the book "The Mushroom Cultivator."  Read that until you understand it, then come back to this website to get the more modern approach to the teks in that book.  At the very least watch Roger rabbits "let's grow mushrooms" which has can be found bootlegged on youtube.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697415 - 10/01/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well read until your eyes bleed and then expect to read 5x more.  I see you are feeling confident but your posts really don't show you are anywhere near as knowledgeable as you need to be to start this hobby.  I'm not trying to be mean, but you really should spend 20 bux and pick up the book "The Mushroom Cultivator."  Read that until you understand it, then come back to this website to get the more modern approach to the teks in that book.  At the very least watch Roger rabbits "let's grow mushrooms" which has can be found bootlegged on youtube.



Don't wanna start anything but fuck books you want RRs videos let's grow mushrooms and this website. IMO books contain no up to date info and a waste of money, this site has all the teks and info anyone would need. Mycology seems to change very quickly books don't. You need live, up to date info and live experiments like what happens here to get the right knowledge.
The mushroom cultivator was published in 1983 a lot has changed, I'm not sure about any revisions to the book as I haven't read it or actively looked for any further info.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697446 - 10/01/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well read until your eyes bleed and then expect to read 5x more.  I see you are feeling confident but your posts really don't show you are anywhere near as knowledgeable as you need to be to start this hobby.  I'm not trying to be mean, but you really should spend 20 bux and pick up the book "The Mushroom Cultivator."  Read that until you understand it, then come back to this website to get the more modern approach to the teks in that book.  At the very least watch Roger rabbits "let's grow mushrooms" which has can be found bootlegged on youtube.



Don't wanna start anything but fuck books you want RRs videos let's grow mushrooms and this website. IMO books contain no up to date info and a waste of money, this site has all the teks and info anyone would need. Mycology seems to change very quickly books don't. You need live, up to date info and live experiments like what happens here to get the right knowledge.
The mushroom cultivator was published in 1983 a lot has changed, I'm not sure about any revisions to the book as I haven't read it or actively looked for any further info.




One thing even old books have that this site doesn't is one mind bringing together a overall cohesive understanding of mycology.  This site is filled with 1000s of teks that are also filled with either outdated or mis information aND often dosent tell why but just how.  It's so overbearing for a novice to know what to take from this site which is obvious from all the ridiculous questions asked.  With a base understanding of mycology this site all of a sudden becomes AMAZING.  I do agree that Roger rabbits vids would also work which is why I said that in my earlier post, but I think stamens books offers a more overall comprehensive knowledge (with invaluable appendices) where Roger rabbits vids are just very well done teks.

I do find it weird you haven't read the book and call it useless btw.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697475 - 10/01/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I came here with a grow bag and 0 knowledge, now I'm using agar, bulk, many Pf grows. I agree basic understanding would have been beneficial but simply reading teks and asking questions on here gave me all the knowledge I need to produce as much as I need. Reading out of date books time and time again bring noobs here with a know it all attitude and when they get told the correct up to date facts they kick off and insult everyone. Books serve a purpose but remember to check the current knowledge unless the book was written in the last year or so even then check. Look at festers books people say any old shit to fill a book.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697484 - 10/01/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Reading teks and popping a few mushrooms out seems to create know it alls in my experience. I know that some people are ridiculously more knowledgeable than I am and they haven't read any books, bUT not everyone is so lucky or intelligent.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23697486 - 10/01/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Reading teks and popping a few mushrooms out seems to create know it alls in my experience.




Seems like your taking offence because you read a book :shrug:
Understand I'm not saying your wrong I'm saying taking advice from a book that's 30 year old ain't a good idea, and the vast amounts of UP TO DATE info on here is by far WAY more beneficial for a noob and a hell of a lot easier to digest as its generally written in a way a new cultivator can understand. Unlike most books in the mycology field.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23697497 - 10/01/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well it was a nice thread derail bro.  Guess we have to agree to disagree.


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    #23697499 - 10/01/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lol agreed sorry op


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23698300 - 10/01/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bahahaha. I have a computer on monday=party time. I will post my pf decisions for peer review.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23698381 - 10/01/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My vote goes for this site vs books as well, since it was brought up.

You can go pick up a book right now and it'll tell you things like, that you need to colonize in the dark, and that you should be using an incubator to maintain 85F.  Or that you want to scrape your substrate with a fork.  Or that bruising is directly related to potency.  :rolleyes:  And while you read that book, nobody around you will correct any of that bad info you just read.  You'll just read it, and take it as fact, and then come on the forum and act like a little prick when people point out that some of the stuff from out of said book is straight up caveman tech.  Trust me, it happens enough that we're all fully callous and used to it by now.  Maybe if books peer reviewed themselves they could keep up but they don't.  They just infinitely reproduce the same information.  Like a moron might do.  Or perhaps a propagandizing government.  :shrug:  Or, maybe, you know, a book publisher that wants to continually make money off of work that was relevant 30 years ago.

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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Inocuole]
    #23698457 - 10/01/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Isaac newton's theory of gravity is outdated but still used to send our satellites into orbit and will be used to send our men and women to mars. The Principia is an outdated text by hundreds of years, but all physicist are required to read it at university.  TMC has invaluable information in it, actually tells the why instead of just the how and gives you an overall cohesive well written text on the subject. 

This site has updated methodologies that synergizes very well with the book just like my original post said, but the fact is is this site is an aggregate of teks from hundreds if not more people (where only a handful really know what they are actually talking about.) Some of the teks are gold and some are absolute trash. None of it is presented in cohesion.  Its a discussion board so you cant really do much about that.

Although the book has maybe three facts that has been shown to be wrong, it's a one day read that holds well all its own.  If you followed the book word for word you still get a methodology that works very well.  If all the novices read this book before posting here we would be rid of most of the stupid questions we get here.

FYI TMC never advocates scratching your substrate with a fork neither does it talk about bruising compared to potency.  As for the constant supply of books coming out regurgitating bad info I have no idea what you are talking about.  I have only mentioned one read. If you are talking about GGMM, that was an updated version that shed a lot more insight into the field and updated the info from the first book.  Geared more towards a professional lab, still another good read for any home grower.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698508 - 10/01/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/75

Here is a link to our archive here on the site.  You would think the archive would be the definitive place to get the good info on this site and it's filled with all kinds of trash teks.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698536 - 10/01/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051

Here is a link to how to use the search function properly so you don't get outdated bs teks, and only info from TCs.

People need to fuckin just read the options of the search function. I've never once had an issue with it spitting out old info.

I have read the book, and the only thing useful for me was the contamination section. Everything else is much easier to find and much more updated via the search function.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698538 - 10/01/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051

Here is a link to how to use the search function properly so you don't get outdated bs teks, and only info from TCs.

People need to fuckin just read the options of the search function. I've never once had an issue with it spitting out old info.




but why does our archive host such crap info?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698539 - 10/01/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because it's the archives. It's a place where info is so garbage, it shouldn't be in mush cult anymore.

It's just meant for documentation, to preserve the information, and show how we got to today. It's not a place for good information.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698542 - 10/01/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We save all the garbage so novices can accidentally stumble in and think they are reading shroomery quality information? 

I mean that is my defense for TMC.  Its a great comprehensive text that shows us how we got to where we are today but still has actual relative information.  The contamination id flow chart is well worth the read.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698545 - 10/01/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So you want to just go and erase all the old information?

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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698551 - 10/01/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

no, just don't put it all in a spot without a disclaimer.  Getting rid of the archives doesn't get rid of the info.  The info is still stored on the servers if you want to search for it.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698558 - 10/01/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I can agree it really does need a disclaimer. Same with the main site. Yes the contamination area of TMC is worth reading, that I can agree with too. The actual growing parameters of cubensis tho is silly. Preparing substrates (compost) is also just silly.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698563 - 10/01/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah I can agree it really does need a disclaimer. Same with the main site. Yes the contamination area of TMC is worth reading, that I can agree with too. The actual growing parameters of cubensis tho is silly. Preparing substrates (compost) is also just silly.



the compost section is actually not for cubensis, its for agaricus.  As for the growth parameters, I am pretty sure the vegetative temperature is the only wrong piece of info, and stamets has made comments on why it is wrong and why it was in the book.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698574 - 10/01/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fruiting too. Talks about ridiculously high humidity, when realistically it's 55-80%. Also less than 1000 ppm of co2 is ideal. Not 5000 ppm


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698577 - 10/01/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

fuck i must be out of the loop.  55% humidity for fruiting is ideal?  when was this changed?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698584 - 10/01/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fluctuations FTW. Under 55% and you start seeing cracked caps.



^ open air fruited with surrounding air always being under 10% rH. Misted directly about 3 times a day. O/A yield was 1.5 zips from a pint of spawn and 2 qts of manure.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=149412&F_Board=2&Thread=21288129&Main=21288129

^ open air fruited under 40% rH.

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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698607 - 10/01/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a lot of work when my no mist monotubs perform excellently.  Full canopies every time with no fluctuating humidity. 

Im not saying you are wrong, but I don't normally try to fix stuff that aint broken.  So IME 90% constant humidity causes absolutely no problems so I really can't say that stamets is totally wrong on that one.  Even if spraying and trying to fluctuate the humidity could get me a few more it is definitely not worth my time.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698618 - 10/01/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just saying that it's possible to grow with no humidity. 90% humidity is way high, you're getting into colonization humidity at that level. Almost every monotub runs at 65-80% IME, and requires no misting, unless needed, which every so often a mono seems to always need misting once a day.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698629 - 10/01/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just saying that it's possible to grow with no humidity. 90% humidity is way high, you're getting into colonization humidity at that level. Almost every monotub runs at 65-80% IME, and requires no misting, unless needed, which every so often a mono seems to always need misting once a day.




Where I am located our humidity is 75 - 80% most of the year outside.  I am pretty sure my tubs run in the 90s but I never invested in a proper hydrometer.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698637 - 10/01/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hm then that is possible to have 90%. I've literally never seen 90% in my fruiting chambers. Where I live (prairie desert) I'm lucky to see 25-30% rH outside. Winter time with the furnace kicking on, it's always under 10%. During those days of under 10%, cold drinks dont even have condensation on them, it's so dry


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698639 - 10/01/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

damn.  thats low.  Im smack dab in the middle of a rain forest.  Love it!  We have all the best wild mushrooms.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23853663 - 11/21/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought I responded to this thread a while ago.
I guess between the hurricane and other shit I forgot.
I decided to do BRF Tek first, and instead of attempting to use a cheese grater and try bulk (lol sillly) just keep them whole. Progress in picture after 6 days.



One batch I did with regular water, the other with a rabbit bunny poop tea. The POOTEA is actually taking longer to colonize, and one, out of the three with POOTEA isn't even colonized- one has only one tiny speck of a spot (out of the four holes) and the other has two okay-sized spots colonized.

I thought the POOTEA would help... but for whatever reason... not so much..

When I finish I plan to prepare a spot in the back garden with composted hard wood scrap, compost dirt from my banana circle where I throw food scraps, some soft straw with a bunch of rabbit shit. I plan to pasteurize it by laying my black hose in the sun all day, and spraying it with the scalding water. When it is finally cooled to about 70 degrees I am going to add all the spent BRF cakes to the pile, grated. Maybe even take a few spore prints on some bio degradable paper and throw those in with.

My hope is this round is ready for new years, and it is a nice one, so we can supply ourselves with the means to actually make a bulk batch.

We have a friend squatting in an abandoned house in the countryside we are probably going to end up using for future projects.The house has open area beneath it due to it being on concrete stilts. We cleaned out a disgusting fridge- dismantled the glass shelves to make a few solar dehydrators. Using the empty fridge itself by putting it side ways and using it as an incubation container.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23853894 - 11/21/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ALSO.. QUICKIE:
Can one use Steramine to sanitize ones inoculation syringes?


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