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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698558 - 10/01/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I can agree it really does need a disclaimer. Same with the main site. Yes the contamination area of TMC is worth reading, that I can agree with too. The actual growing parameters of cubensis tho is silly. Preparing substrates (compost) is also just silly.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698563 - 10/01/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah I can agree it really does need a disclaimer. Same with the main site. Yes the contamination area of TMC is worth reading, that I can agree with too. The actual growing parameters of cubensis tho is silly. Preparing substrates (compost) is also just silly.



the compost section is actually not for cubensis, its for agaricus.  As for the growth parameters, I am pretty sure the vegetative temperature is the only wrong piece of info, and stamets has made comments on why it is wrong and why it was in the book.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698574 - 10/01/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fruiting too. Talks about ridiculously high humidity, when realistically it's 55-80%. Also less than 1000 ppm of co2 is ideal. Not 5000 ppm


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698577 - 10/01/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

fuck i must be out of the loop.  55% humidity for fruiting is ideal?  when was this changed?


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698584 - 10/01/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fluctuations FTW. Under 55% and you start seeing cracked caps.



^ open air fruited with surrounding air always being under 10% rH. Misted directly about 3 times a day. O/A yield was 1.5 zips from a pint of spawn and 2 qts of manure.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/remlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=149412&F_Board=2&Thread=21288129&Main=21288129

^ open air fruited under 40% rH.

Proper misting with good Fae is all the rage these days xD


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698607 - 10/01/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a lot of work when my no mist monotubs perform excellently.  Full canopies every time with no fluctuating humidity. 

Im not saying you are wrong, but I don't normally try to fix stuff that aint broken.  So IME 90% constant humidity causes absolutely no problems so I really can't say that stamets is totally wrong on that one.  Even if spraying and trying to fluctuate the humidity could get me a few more it is definitely not worth my time.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698618 - 10/01/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just saying that it's possible to grow with no humidity. 90% humidity is way high, you're getting into colonization humidity at that level. Almost every monotub runs at 65-80% IME, and requires no misting, unless needed, which every so often a mono seems to always need misting once a day.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698629 - 10/01/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just saying that it's possible to grow with no humidity. 90% humidity is way high, you're getting into colonization humidity at that level. Almost every monotub runs at 65-80% IME, and requires no misting, unless needed, which every so often a mono seems to always need misting once a day.




Where I am located our humidity is 75 - 80% most of the year outside.  I am pretty sure my tubs run in the 90s but I never invested in a proper hydrometer.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23698637 - 10/01/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hm then that is possible to have 90%. I've literally never seen 90% in my fruiting chambers. Where I live (prairie desert) I'm lucky to see 25-30% rH outside. Winter time with the furnace kicking on, it's always under 10%. During those days of under 10%, cold drinks dont even have condensation on them, it's so dry


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Mad Season]
    #23698639 - 10/01/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

damn.  thats low.  Im smack dab in the middle of a rain forest.  Love it!  We have all the best wild mushrooms.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: RyeJar]
    #23853663 - 11/21/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought I responded to this thread a while ago.
I guess between the hurricane and other shit I forgot.
I decided to do BRF Tek first, and instead of attempting to use a cheese grater and try bulk (lol sillly) just keep them whole. Progress in picture after 6 days.



One batch I did with regular water, the other with a rabbit bunny poop tea. The POOTEA is actually taking longer to colonize, and one, out of the three with POOTEA isn't even colonized- one has only one tiny speck of a spot (out of the four holes) and the other has two okay-sized spots colonized.

I thought the POOTEA would help... but for whatever reason... not so much..

When I finish I plan to prepare a spot in the back garden with composted hard wood scrap, compost dirt from my banana circle where I throw food scraps, some soft straw with a bunch of rabbit shit. I plan to pasteurize it by laying my black hose in the sun all day, and spraying it with the scalding water. When it is finally cooled to about 70 degrees I am going to add all the spent BRF cakes to the pile, grated. Maybe even take a few spore prints on some bio degradable paper and throw those in with.

My hope is this round is ready for new years, and it is a nice one, so we can supply ourselves with the means to actually make a bulk batch.

We have a friend squatting in an abandoned house in the countryside we are probably going to end up using for future projects.The house has open area beneath it due to it being on concrete stilts. We cleaned out a disgusting fridge- dismantled the glass shelves to make a few solar dehydrators. Using the empty fridge itself by putting it side ways and using it as an incubation container.


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Re: Newb Questions for Cultivation [Re: Magsdarling]
    #23853894 - 11/21/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ALSO.. QUICKIE:
Can one use Steramine to sanitize ones inoculation syringes?


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