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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz] * 1
    #23775273 - 10/27/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oh young man (?) you lead a very sheltered life

think what you want, there's no getting through obviously




Cognitive distortions are exaggerated irrational thought patterns that create
and perpetuate emotional disturbances, such as depression, anxiety, and rage.

Interviewing violent people and reading suicide notes, we uncover cognitive distortions.

When we interview people with chronic depression and anxiety, we see cognitive distortions.




According to who?
Who is having the power/is audacious enough as a fellow human being to say to you, who may be depressed
through circumstances unique to you and not experienced by the other who tells you 'you have a cognitive distortion'? 




People frequently come to realize they're creating their own misery.

And that what's fueling their misery isn't "life", but their cognitive distortions.

To believe your misery is unique and special is total insanity!

That's pure 100% ego-driven bullshit. The mind is often a liar. Beware.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23775564 - 10/27/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the only thing I will be beware of is ideas such as that.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23775612 - 10/27/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

An example of good work is creating or paying for or supporting something that helps the entire planet harmonise in balance.
    An example of bad work is any form of self obsession, any obsession including fear of self, any thing we do that hurts oneself, us, life, consuming too much life in any manner, be aware how every thought, every penny we spend effects another life form. That is creating destruction, this is hard for us to collectively accept we all have been participating in. We should strive for balance.

    When using English or any language be very careful of how a percieved positive or negative word will influence someone who believes in it.

    If we ever feel stuck at all then we must rebalance ourselves with meditation. It really is the expression of not knowing the own mind.

    Insanity in its rawest form is any thought loop. 10 print "error" 20 goto 10. Any form of repetition. Why not harness our natural insanity and use it for a collective benefit? The mind is a computer waiting to be unlocked.




    Meditation, the real hardcore drug lmao

    Its all real! Realise anyone can grab the torch for humanity and all life now :smile:


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23775888 - 10/27/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the mind is not a computer!


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23775905 - 10/27/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

more like a polaroid movie camera that can paradoxically play back memory combinations at higher resolutions than originally experienced


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23775954 - 10/27/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I have no belief in my own ability to choose positive or negative thought or remain balanced right here now



I know anger, fear, love, sorrow, joy all can be difficult to grasp but we can learn to allign them as aspects of the self.  We should never fear one another, this just creates an imaginary monster outside of the self.  ALL life and death has a commen connection.



Often people wonder why do we eat other life forms?  Why do we eat ourselves?  The answer is just so that life never ends.  We should choose to consume thoughtfully though and not cause suffering to the life form when consuming it or during its life.  Any life form thats being kept as a pet is in suffering.  It saddens me but this is true.  A pet is a direct reflection of the desire to own oneself, control ones own mind. I am not wanting to shame anyone.  I am wanting to drop the shame reward for cash system.  Its time we let go of negative beliefs.  We can use money without greed.  Use mind without surpressing imagination.  Choose right and wrong via our own internal morel guide.  Insanity in its rawest form is repeating the same thing over and over again without error correction.



What is desire?  Desire to control, desire to control ones own mind?  It is a reflection of ones soul crying for the freedom it requires as a creature of Earth.  The freedom to know we are all naturally good and want the same common goals.  To be balanced and happy.  I know if people can meditate together at the same time all around the world it will have a huge impact and healing effect.  Anyone can make a choice here now to be a part of earths problems or solutions.  We just must see and know the self first to understand.  Most problems arising in the human mind now can be fixed simply by mediating in a stress free environment.  This is a powerful healing tool.  It should never be charged for.  Thats just cash for beliefs again.


Insanity in its rawest form is just thought loops without error correction.  The cause of suffering.


If people are interested we could organise a meditation every full moon or sunny afternoon.



When we rebalance ourselfs then the earth will rebalance too.  You will see a direct positive change from doing this.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23775965 - 10/27/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I have no belief in my own ability to choose positive or negative thought or remain balanced right here now



I know anger, fear, love, sorrow, joy all can be difficult to grasp but we can learn to allign them as aspects of the self.  We should never fear one another, this just creates an imaginary monster outside of the self.  ALL life and death has a commen connection.



Often people wonder why do we eat other life forms?  Why do we eat ourselves?  The answer is just so that life never ends.  We should choose to consume thoughtfully though and not cause suffering to the life form when consuming it or during its life.  Any life form thats being kept as a pet is in suffering.  It saddens me but this is true.  A pet is a direct reflection of the desire to own oneself, control ones own mind. I am not wanting to shame anyone.  I am wanting to drop the shame reward for cash system.  Its time we let go of negative beliefs.  We can use money without greed.  Use mind without surpressing imagination.  Choose right and wrong via our own internal morel guide.  Insanity in its rawest form is repeating the same thing over and over again without error correction.



What is desire?  Desire to control, desire to control ones own mind?  It is a reflection of ones soul crying for the freedom it requires as a creature of Earth.  The freedom to know we are all naturally good and want the same common goals.  To be balanced and happy.  I know if people can meditate together at the same time all around the world it will have a huge impact and healing effect.  Anyone can make a choice here now to be a part of earths problems or solutions.  We just must see and know the self first to understand.  Most problems arising in the human mind now can be fixed simply by mediating in a stress free environment.  This is a powerful healing tool.  It should never be charged for.  Thats just cash for beliefs again.


Insanity in its rawest form is just thought loops without error correction.  The cause of suffering.


If people are interested we could organise a meditation every full moon or sunny afternoon.



When we rebalance ourselfs then the earth will rebalance too.  You will see a direct positive change from doing this.




I don't know whose quote that is which you name as mine (at beginning of your post), but it is not me


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23775967 - 10/27/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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more like a polaroid movie camera that can paradoxically play back memory combinations at higher resolutions than originally experienced




no, mind is not a polaroid camera either :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23778934 - 10/28/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the mind is not a computer!




Its much closer to a computer than you might think


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin] * 1
    #23779116 - 10/28/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the mind is not a computer!




Its much closer to a computer than you might think




No it is not.

Why Minds Are Not Like Computers

And if and when your bodymind sees a bigger picture you will discover that the myth that the mind is a computer or like a computer (and that reality is a 'computer simulation') will suit the ruling class to a T, because they will be soon wanting (and this is already happening) to get you to demand technology which will be implanted in your body to 'upgrade your computer', and they will make vast profits supplying it, as they already do with the current technology!


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23779181 - 10/28/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I wasnt implying that the brian could be condensend down to an algorithm but rather that there are a lot of similarities between the brain and computers.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23779675 - 10/28/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

please read the article I linked to?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23779904 - 10/28/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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more like a polaroid movie camera that can paradoxically play back memory combinations at higher resolutions than originally experienced




no, mind is not a polaroid camera either :huxleyfacepalm:



you mean you have no short term memory nor fuzzy long term recollection?


I obviously do not mean that it emits white cards with color pictures on it, but it does develop and preserve impressions of the moment instantly, and it can recall those impressions (albeit in fuzzy resolution) as well as embellish them.
this is a very key concept.
Although it is a system for memory it differs from a computer in that
a) it is not binary at all, nor is it separated into core CPU and memory storage, instead associative input and output operate in the same fabric.
b) there is no ram or rom storage, the impressions are preserved within the cortical matrix based on a system that keeps associated impressions together - the associations are bound more strongly when repetition of the associated impressions occurs.
c) the same memory fabric (neurons in the cortex) can be reused in multiple simultaneous memory engrams (so it is not just the synaptic connections but something that works with polybound relationships and potentiated thresholds among those relationships)

anyway, the polaroid metaphor is closer than a computer.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23780250 - 10/28/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

...you believe what you believe, what can I say :shrug:

I do not like mechanical metaphors at all. I have seen what mechanistic conceptual thinking does when applies to life. An example is of course Rene Descartes who thunk animals were machines and dutifully tortured them feeling no compassion for them as they screamed in pain!

Males especially (not all) seem to always try and encapsulate what they think they understand into the current state of the art technology. Now it is computers with the dream of artificial intelligence. All of this becomes a driving myth

Terrence McKenna, a hero to many psychonauts brought these ideas to the table:

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All of our technologies demand, push forward toward and make inevitable their own obsolescence, so were caught in an evolutionary cascade. You know, people say: "If the AI would break loose, what would it look like, what would it be? Where does humanity fit into the picture?" It's a little hard to imagine. The machines operating in 1000MHz confer automatic immortality on the mammalian nervous system if you can get it somehow uploaded, downloaded, cross loaded into machinery, because ten minutes becomes eternity in a machine like that. source




There we have the promise of immortality (a common promise in solar mythology) brought into the modern or post-modern era.

Like I say, I see a bigger picture. McKenna made out that no one was in control. I do not agree. I think, like Edward Bernay's confessed, there are people who push these myths as a social control, unbeknownst to many, to also make vast profits for a very small elite. And promise of 'immortality' via their technomatrix is right up there on their agenda.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23780322 - 10/28/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Mckenna was too much of a crack pot;
are you a lady fish, denigrating how males swim?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23781219 - 10/28/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the mind is not a computer!




Its much closer to a computer than you might think




The mind and body form a biological computer made up of the Central Nervous System(brain and spinal cord) and the Peripheral Nervous System(outside brain and spinal cord).


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23781825 - 10/29/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I remain a mystery~~~to myself


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23782010 - 10/29/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

at least you have a moist smile engrained in your head.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23782959 - 10/29/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Organism....Earthy creatures.

Computers - Beep Beep Boop./


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23782998 - 10/29/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting words nice1


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