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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23765618 - 10/23/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Or does it stem from environmental aspects?




you need to Google 'mental illness myth' and look at links, and recommended articles, books, videos, and in this way you should learn that this civilization has as its central social controlling myth the myth of mental illness which , by 'myth', is not meant that how you feel is not real, but that the 'accepted' idea that 'depression' is a biologically-caused 'chemical imbalance' is a hoax. Even psychiatrists are admitting this is so, though critics of the pharmo/shrink cartel have been informing about this for many many years

So OK, say you know all that but you still feel depressed, what then?

First I will ask you, are you aware of reasons why you feel so down?



bullshit.

there are insights from both psychiatry and the anti-psychiatry movement (in terms of overprescribing medications, being against certain treatments that have moral consequences, ie, anti-psychotics, ect) that are valid...stop acting (as Jokeshop said) "like you have all the answers". you don't.

PS: if a problem can be seen or felt, it exists, insofar as it exists for those whom can see or feel it.

denying that depression exists is like denying that schizophrenia exists. some of you people have got to understand, at some point, that you're being ridiculous by saying that depression is a non-existent "disease" and "just something else". who gives a fuck "what" it is, exactly? it exists. you need to deal with it -- some people opt for medication, and it works for them; who is to tell them what to do otherwise, if what fucking works for them works.

oft times cognitive therapy is not enough.

blame the world you live in (the species) for producing these effects...not the people whom are effected...for the state of affairs with people's mental health.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23765670 - 10/23/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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...some of you people have got to understand, at some point, that you're being ridiculous by saying that depression is a non-existent "disease" ... who gives a fuck "what" it is, exactly?




I'm beating a dead horse (again), but nobody denies the experience of depression exists.

Nobody denies the very real suffering of a rapist, arsonist, serial killer, terrorist, or pedophile.

If emotional disturbances aren't rooted in bio-chemical malfunction, that's important.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23765681 - 10/23/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

actually, some of you people are denying that depression has bio-chemical component. see: zzrips. :shrug:

and if emotional disturbances aren't rooted in bio-chemical malfunction, that's important, only insofar as finding the root cause of said disturbance...means NOT that you cannot use medication to help aid you.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23765981 - 10/24/16 05:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oh young man (?) you lead a very sheltered life

think what you want, there's no getting through obviously




Cognitive distortions are exaggerated irrational thought patterns that create
and perpetuate emotional disturbances, such as depression, anxiety, and rage.

Interviewing violent people and reading suicide notes, we uncover cognitive distortions.

When we interview people with chronic depression and anxiety, we see cognitive distortions.




According to who?
Who is having the power/is audacious enough as a fellow human being to say to you, who may be depressed through circumstances unique to you and not experienced by the other who tells you 'you have a cognitive distortion'? Get me? it is the same power move similar to what the shrinks do minus the drugs.
I am not just against the the biomedical psychiatrists, but also psychologists and psychotherapists who will use this form of oppression on others, acting as gatekeepers for oppressive culture. For both the drug and non drug so-called 'mind expert' they are using power over you to explain that how you are feeling is a disease or cognitive disorder. And same is so for the gurus, and cult leaders too.

People should be, MUST be free to feel however they want regarding whatever, and not be told they are suffering a disorder.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23765988 - 10/24/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

of course no one should cede their control over their own destinies, but that doesn't mean medication doesn't help with the problems people have, nor psychiatrists -- though credentials, in both instances, are important to a T. (see, i made a joke there, but it's like interwoven with my main point -- awesome) so why can't you just admit to that reality? because you read some opinions at some point.

that's why. and you think you're gonna be in the lot that changes the world...yeash.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23766045 - 10/24/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I am not just against the the biomedical psychiatrists, but also psychologists and psychotherapists who will use this form of oppression on others, acting as gatekeepers for oppressive culture. For both the drug and non drug so-called 'mind expert' they are using power over you to explain that how you are feeling is a disease or cognitive disorder. And same is so for the gurus, and cult leaders too.

People should be, MUST be free to feel however they want regarding whatever, and not be told they are suffering a disorder.



You are against practically everything that ever comes up if my memory serves me half as good as it might.
As to whether you will be told you have a disorder such as "antagonistic disposition syndrome"
it is really up to you whether you take it to heart or not.
you don't have the right to prevent people having a perception of your disorder, nor the right to prevent them from saying what they think.
You do have the right to refuse medication up until the time that the disorder lets you hurt yourself or others.

just keeding.... but you know...


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23766449 - 10/24/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"antagonistic disposition syndrome" ?

Of course, you won't suffer from 'it', ohh noooo

and like said, it is not about someone having freedom to judge another, it is when the judging is used as a power over the ones being so judged.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23766513 - 10/24/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ok maybe this is a chicken and egg anti-anti-freedom kind of attitude, but my "diagnosis" of the untreated antagonistic disposition syndrome and the claim that judging is power over one's being judged kind of collude into one thing.

nobody owns the thoughts in another person's mind.

you are free to think what you think, and I am similarly.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23766777 - 10/24/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Or does it stem from environmental aspects?




Its 100% environmental.

Its a BELIEF SYSTEM.
Please look at my old threads.

Repeating negative beliefs to each other.  Its that simple.  Face ones self.  I had to.  We all do.

All the best!


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23767625 - 10/24/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Or does it stem from environmental aspects?




Its 100% environmental.

Its a BELIEF SYSTEM.
Please look at my old threads.

Repeating negative beliefs to each other.  Its that simple.  Face ones self.  I had to.  We all do.

All the best!




Tell that to someone with bipolar disorder.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23768755 - 10/25/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How could i "tell" someone who has already been trained to believe?

its all thats happening here.  People reaffirming beliefs to each other for cash.  Its a form of hysteria and people get paid for inventing imaginary "cures".

I've never seen a bipolar dolphin.  I've never seen an animal with any of these made up human conditions.  The only animals in suffering are the ones we are causing suffering too.  the western world trains each other in arrogance and ignorance so they can continue their delusions for cash scheme and everyone else is unhappy and pays the real price for it.

does anyone realise how the language they use and the shaming reward system is conditioning each other?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23768957 - 10/25/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's a really ignorant post.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: viktor]
    #23769210 - 10/25/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

very.

this notion that some "good thinking" is gonna correct these problems, "good thinking" from "enlightenment"....it's just....where is there an actual anything here?

spiritualism does not cure or treat depression...fuck sakes. if it were that easy, there'd be no depression...fuck sakes.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23769326 - 10/25/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never seen an animal with any of these made up human conditions.




How do you mean 'made up'? Do you mean that people who experience what is termed bipolar are making it up?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns] * 1
    #23769438 - 10/25/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's %100 chemical, if I take drugs it goes away without a trace... I can see how mushrooms/ psyches  would make you think that you're changing your beliefs to be forever free of depression but believe me, It will come creeping back once you stop if you are a person that has constant clinical depression.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23769498 - 10/25/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Real answer is not in this thread.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23769676 - 10/25/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Made up in that its mass hysteria, self re affirmed beliefs.

your depressed, feel bad, feel bad, your depressed, take some posiens, consume toxcins, your negative, consume toxcins?

Hello?

Its a negative belief system.  I can never show anyone because if you believe in it then OFC you have negative beleifs lol.  Its pretty simple.  If you want send me money and I'll make some rain clouds appear lmao

You say I am ignorant?  I simply see the delusion.

No animal is depressed.  nature is not deperessed.  Only humans torturing other humans for cash are depressed.  the only animal that is not free or unhappy is one being trapped by a human.  Please wake up.  i used to be a depression believer :p  I simply do not believe in it anymore thus it doesnt exist.  it was a thought.  A mass hysteria.


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23769685 - 10/25/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Made up in that its mass hysteria, self re affirmed beliefs.

your depressed, feel bad, feel bad, your depressed, take some posiens, consume toxcins, your negative, consume toxcins?

Hello?

Its a negative belief system.  I can never show anyone because if you believe in it then OFC you have negative beleifs lol.  Its pretty simple.  If you want send me money and I'll make some rain clouds appear lmao

You say I am ignorant?  I simply see the delusion.

No animal is depressed.  nature is not deperessed.  Only humans torturing other humans for cash are depressed.  the only animal that is not free or unhappy is one being trapped by a human. 




have you ever been depressed?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: zzripz]
    #23769690 - 10/25/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, how else could I understand it?


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Re: If you suffer from depression is there something chemically wrong inside your brain? [Re: nice1returns]
    #23769717 - 10/25/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

have you ever had 'bipolar'?


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