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Herbologist said: Montreal's mayor has passed a ban on Pitbulls.
I personally think this AWFUL. It is not the dog, it is the owner. They are no more dangerous than any other dog of their size. Thousands of dogs in shelters are now unavailable for adoption leading straight to euthanizing them.
Please sign this petition, everyone!
https://www.change.org/p/montreal-mayor-montreal-please-reverse-your-decision-to-ban-pitbulls
Well, we can't ban shitty pit bull owners. That's just way too difficult.
we cant ban irresponsible marijuana addicts so we banned marijuana instead
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Prisoner#1]
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And it worked really good. . .
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musiclover420 said: Seriously, pets are like children in many ways and parents need to watch over their children just like pet owners need to watch after their pets...
My pup is very excitable and any time a kid comes over she bum rushes them and tries jumping all over them becouse she is so excited. She isn't trying to hurt kids she is just a spazz, so know whenever kids come over I keep a close eye on my pup and make sure she doesn't knock any kids over or accidentally scratch them.
I would bet 99% of child related dog attacks could have been prevented by simply keeping a closer eye on the kids and pets...
I agree, 100% to your 99%. Lack of responsibility probably plays a major roll.
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Herbologist said: Montreal's mayor has passed a ban on Pitbulls.
I personally think this AWFUL. It is not the dog, it is the owner. They are no more dangerous than any other dog of their size. Thousands of dogs in shelters are now unavailable for adoption leading straight to euthanizing them.
Please sign this petition, everyone!
https://www.change.org/p/montreal-mayor-montreal-please-reverse-your-decision-to-ban-pitbulls
Well, we can't ban shitty pit bull owners. That's just way too difficult.
If only we could, though. Ban pieces of scum from owning ANY animals.
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People who are getting bit by large dogs, a lot of them had it coming. Dogs know to protect and if you invade their property or hurt their owner, they are going to defend and attack.
Yeah considering most people killed by dogs are children I would say they had it coming. Those things are obnoxious.
When I was about 13 or so, me and my bro were walking home from a friends house and on our way there we ran into two of the worlds biggest pit bulls, I've yet to see pits bull that size, but they were loose and sniffing around, there wasn't anyone around either, the streets were empty, well as soon as they saw us they stopped what they were doing and they immediately sensed our fear, they barked and ran towards us and we ran and were able to hop on top of a car, the owner of the car was home and she came out of the house and told us to wait there until the dogs left, then she gave us a ride home.
Pretty sure those dogs would have mauled us to death had they caught up to us, sometimes dogs, even the nice ones, will react to fear, doesn't matter if ur intentions were good, if they sense ur fear, and they feel like they can take u on, they will..
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Herbologist said: Montreal's mayor has passed a ban on Pitbulls.
I personally think this AWFUL. It is not the dog, it is the owner. They are no more dangerous than any other dog of their size. Thousands of dogs in shelters are now unavailable for adoption leading straight to euthanizing them.
Please sign this petition, everyone!
https://www.change.org/p/montreal-mayor-montreal-please-reverse-your-decision-to-ban-pitbulls
Well, we can't ban shitty pit bull owners. That's just way too difficult.
we cant ban irresponsible marijuana addicts so we banned marijuana instead
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this is what happens when you dont ban the marijuanas, the users go rabid, their brains swell and they attack people and eat their faces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_cannibal_attack#Inconclusive_investigation
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Two mutts attacked me once, coming at me viciously across a field with their teeth barred. I pretended I was scared and started running and when they were right behind me I turned, jumped up in the air, made a hideous face and screamed and started chasing them. You could still hear them yiping with terror about 3 blocks away.
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: zZZz]
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People who are getting bit by large dogs, a lot of them had it coming. Dogs know to protect and if you invade their property or hurt their owner, they are going to defend and attack.
Yeah considering most people killed by dogs are children I would say they had it coming. Those things are obnoxious.
When I was about 13 or so, me and my bro were walking home from a friends house and on our way there we ran into two of the worlds biggest pit bulls, I've yet to see pits bull that size
yeah, that's probably because they werent pit bulls, pits dont get much past knee height at the shoulder, other dogs that are frequently mistaken for pits do get pretty big. pits arent big dogs.



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I love doing this to my pup. Once she was being a bitch face and wouldn't stop chewing on me (playfully of course) so I moved really slowly while she looked at me confused then suddenly mock lunged for her. She was so startled she flopped backwards off the couch it was one of the funniest things I have ever seen, helped show her who's boss though.
Now when she is barking and nipping at me to play with/ intimidate me I do the same back to her which gets her super riled up, she always wants to play
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23691160 - 09/29/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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People who are getting bit by large dogs, a lot of them had it coming. Dogs know to protect and if you invade their property or hurt their owner, they are going to defend and attack.
Yeah considering most people killed by dogs are children I would say they had it coming. Those things are obnoxious.
When I was about 13 or so, me and my bro were walking home from a friends house and on our way there we ran into two of the worlds biggest pit bulls, I've yet to see pits bull that size
yeah, that's probably because they werent pit bulls, pits dont get much past knee height at the shoulder, other dogs that are frequently mistaken for pits do get pretty big. pits arent big dogs.




My sisters pit was about a medium size. Probably about as big as that first picture.
She was named Pancake, rescued by her and my brother in law out in the desert after she had been beaten and unloaded out there with a broken leg. She was pure skeleton but they nurtured her back to full health and she was so happy and appreciative. My tiny little cat loved her too, it would come up and rub all over her and Pancake would just take it like a sweet heart. Her past abuse caused a lot of damage and she ended up passing away from something brain related but it was nice knowing that she passed w/ the love of a family.
That's what all those poor dogs need. With this ban, all those dogs who have been abused and neglected will never know what its like to have a family who loves them. Instead, they will be put to sleep simply because of fear mongering.
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Also that is a beautiful story My old wolf dog was a rescue who was probably abused in the past and she was the sweetest most loving dog I have known.
When she was rescued she was roaming the country side killing the neighbors chickens at a property where she and 2 other dogs were abandoned. They would have been put down especially the wolf but my grandma bought the property and found homes for the other 2 dogs. Me and my mom took the wolf. The original owner actually demanded her back later which we couldn't really fight.
One year on the 4th of july though we saw our old wolfdog being held at the collar next to a busy street. She had apparently been running around frightened and this couple grabbed onto her. They asked us if it was our dog to which we said yes and she lived with us from then on until her passing
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Ive encountered many "pit bulls" in my life and all have been loyal, loving and reapectful. If you place a dog in a stressful enviroment, including negligence of care, of course he will defend him or herself in a desperate measure to survive the situation. Humans seem to just always find something to kill. Kill yourselfs first. ( That goes to the politicians and related bankers ect.)
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Also that is a beautiful story My old wolf dog was a rescue who was probably abused in the past and she was the sweetest most loving dog I have known.
When she was rescued she was roaming the country side killing the neighbors chickens at a property where she and 2 other dogs were abandoned. They would have been put down especially the wolf but my grandma bought the property and found homes for the other 2 dogs. Me and my mom took the wolf. The original owner actually demanded her back later which we couldn't really fight.
One year on the 4th of july though we saw our old wolfdog being held at the collar next to a busy street. She had apparently been running around frightened and this couple grabbed onto her. They asked us if it was our dog to which we said yes and she lived with us from then on until her passing 
That's nice that you were able to find homes for the other 2 dogs. It seems as though the original owner of your wolf dog must not have cared about the well-being of the animal, only that it was her "property". I am only guessing that since you found it lost on the street with somebody else. Sounds like fate brought you guys back to that dog so it could live the rest of its life happy and loved!
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Herbologist said: Montreal's mayor has passed a ban on Pitbulls.
I personally think this AWFUL. It is not the dog, it is the owner. They are no more dangerous than any other dog of their size. Thousands of dogs in shelters are now unavailable for adoption leading straight to euthanizing them.
Please sign this petition, everyone!
https://www.change.org/p/montreal-mayor-montreal-please-reverse-your-decision-to-ban-pitbulls
We should domesticate and legalize cougars and then get all butthurt when they start mauling people. "It's not the cougars, it's the humans!"
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Herbologist said: That's nice that you were able to find homes for the other 2 dogs. It seems as though the original owner of your wolf dog must not have cared about the well-being of the animal, only that it was her "property". I am only guessing that since you found it lost on the street with somebody else. Sounds like fate brought you guys back to that dog so it could live the rest of its life happy and loved! 
Yeah it really was fate, and it was my Grandma who found the other 2 homes. One was a big furry chow and the other was a little ankle biter who was super playful/ rowdy. The original owner was a POS, he abandoned all 3 dogs then later wanted the wolf back. All 3 were probably abused, our wolf definitely showed signs of it in her behavior at times.
It really did feel meant to be and we loved that wolf dearly, her name was actually Sweetie becouse she was one of the most loving dogs I have ever known. She also had one of the most human like and complex personalities I have seen in a dog which seems common for wolf hybrids. Sadly we had to put her down when she got too old/ frail but I did my best for her, even was giving her really strong red vein kratom instead of her pills which did wonders for her anxiety swelling and pain.
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: I keep comparing this argument of pit bulls to blacks, people claim that pits have an aggression gene, if so, do blacks also have the same gene? look at the blacks in the US, they're responsible for half the violent crime, look at the rioting and looting as of late, is it due to genetics? Are we to argue that it's about the society that we live in oppressing black people that triggers these responses and we also see how this carries over to african nations and the rampant violence there, is it nature or nurture and why do these fear mongering liberals not apply it to both equally
So you're saying ban blacks too? I know some members here think this is a good idea.
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I'm saying if it's genetic, then it's genetic, if it's not then it's not, cant have it both ways
and for the record, there's already been a nation wide ban on owning black people
Thats not how genetics works bro. Many traits are controlled or influenced by a number of genes which my or may not have analogues in other organisms. In addition, many genes influence more than one function and most of them don't code for a protein at all, but are instead influencing the expression of the genes that do. In other words, yes, it is possible (and there's evidence to support this) that there is an aggression gene or set of genes that are shared across several species of mammal including rats and siberian foxes. Humans and dogs could potentially have analogous genes that influence the same trait(or group of traits as it were). However, since dogs don't get to vote, it's much easier to legislate dogs than people. (Oops, i made your argument in the end there didn't i?) Indeed, many people (i am one) would say: "fuck the dogs, people come first!". Don't mistake me for a dog hater though; i like dogs.
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Prisoner#1]
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oh no, they were definitely pit bulls. pit bulls can get big af. not all of them are stocky.
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: zZZz]
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People who are getting bit by large dogs, a lot of them had it coming. Dogs know to protect and if you invade their property or hurt their owner, they are going to defend and attack.
Yeah considering most people killed by dogs are children I would say they had it coming. Those things are obnoxious.
When I was about 13 or so, me and my bro were walking home from a friends house and on our way there we ran into two of the worlds biggest pit bulls, I've yet to see pits bull that size, but they were loose and sniffing around, there wasn't anyone around either, the streets were empty, well as soon as they saw us they stopped what they were doing and they immediately sensed our fear, they barked and ran towards us and we ran and were able to hop on top of a car, the owner of the car was home and she came out of the house and told us to wait there until the dogs left, then she gave us a ride home.
Pretty sure those dogs would have mauled us to death had they caught up to us, sometimes dogs, even the nice ones, will react to fear, doesn't matter if ur intentions were good, if they sense ur fear, and they feel like they can take u on, they will..
I was installing a waterheater one time in this guy's front yard. I don't know why it was in the front, but he signed the waiver saying it would be on him when it didn't pass inspection. Anyway, there i am doing my thing, when i hear all this commotion across the blvd. I turned around to see this massive[Edit: maybe 60-80lbs of solid pit bull, not 200 lbs of mastiff] pit chasing a guy up the street. the guy made it to his house and shut the door with about 2 steps to spare, and then the dog went looking for more trouble. He ran across the road, and started going apeshit up against my customers fence trying to bust through to get at the customers dogs. So while the dog was occupied, i grabbed up my 24" pipe wrench shouldered it and squared up. By the time the bastard gave up on fence and looked my way, i was ready for him. He charged me and got prepared to bring the wrench down in an overhead smash, but he stopped about 4 feet from me and crouched back like he wanted to jump. I looked him in the eye, and he looked back at me, and i knew he was sizing me up, deciding whether to go for it or not. We stared at each other like that for maybe 5 to 10 seconds, but it felt like a minute. Then he just barked and bounded away across the street again. I went back to work, and his owner came walking up the street calling the dog and waving his food bowl. Lady was probably 5'3", 120lbs, and maybe 60 years old. Needless to say, i finished my work and was long gone before that lady got her crazy dog under control. Lucky for me, I was a grown man with a deadly weapon in my hands, and not a little kid playing in the yard.
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Re: Montreal Bans Pitbulls [Re: Hobozen]
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Herbologist said: Montreal's mayor has passed a ban on Pitbulls.
I personally think this AWFUL. It is not the dog, it is the owner. They are no more dangerous than any other dog of their size. Thousands of dogs in shelters are now unavailable for adoption leading straight to euthanizing them.
Please sign this petition, everyone!
https://www.change.org/p/montreal-mayor-montreal-please-reverse-your-decision-to-ban-pitbulls
We should domesticate and legalize cougars and then get all butthurt when they start mauling people. "It's not the cougars, it's the humans!"
Pound for pound cats are much more agile, stronger, and more efficient killers than any dog.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm? If not, your point is not only a dumb one but a horrible comparison.
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Herbologist said: That's nice that you were able to find homes for the other 2 dogs. It seems as though the original owner of your wolf dog must not have cared about the well-being of the animal, only that it was her "property". I am only guessing that since you found it lost on the street with somebody else. Sounds like fate brought you guys back to that dog so it could live the rest of its life happy and loved! 
Yeah it really was fate, and it was my Grandma who found the other 2 homes. One was a big furry chow and the other was a little ankle biter who was super playful/ rowdy. The original owner was a POS, he abandoned all 3 dogs then later wanted the wolf back. All 3 were probably abused, our wolf definitely showed signs of it in her behavior at times.
It really did feel meant to be and we loved that wolf dearly, her name was actually Sweetie becouse she was one of the most loving dogs I have ever known. She also had one of the most human like and complex personalities I have seen in a dog which seems common for wolf hybrids. Sadly we had to put her down when she got too old/ frail but I did my best for her, even was giving her really strong red vein kratom instead of her pills which did wonders for her anxiety swelling and pain.
Notice how even with abuse we and others have came in contact with large breeds who ended up being the sweetest animals we have ever known? Dogs aim to please their owners, not fear them. They just want to be loved!
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