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Offlinefinebonsai
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Panic Attacks On Psychs?
    #23683075 - 09/27/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok this may be a tiny bit long but please read I really need help! <3
It starts a few months ago- after sevral failed attempts I finnally smoke weed correctly for the first time and I end up passing out. For months after I had depersonalization and every time I smoked weed for the first few seconds I would feel as if Im being dragged out my body and I did not enjoy weed at all however I learned to just have fun and enjoy being high and now i love it however that feeling of being dragged out my body was the most terrifying thing ever.

Now this past summer holiday I tried lsd for the first time and I loved it (I did 100ug) with a friend and a trip sitter. Then after that me and my friend did 150ug without a trip sitter and I got something simliar to being dragged out my body on weed. I just got this feeling that is impossible to explain but its the worst thing ever but after walking for ages we found a field to sit in and I felt much better. Another thing that was horrible before was that I felt sick especially when sitting down and I kept getting an orgasmic-like feeling which I hated and everything my friend said annoyed me e.g if he said 'woah these visuals are so cool' I would get super annoyed and freaked. At the time I thought this was just what a bad trip was like though I had no reason to have a bad trip however now im thinking otherwise.
A few weeks later I did my first solo trip (100ug) and did it at home for the first time. This was really fun being cosy, watching sitcoms and playing vidya however at one point I went for a walk and I started to see things out the corner of my eye and got scared so I came back home. All through the trip I felt weird though but Im guessing thats just lsd headspace. AI loved this experience 8/10 would do again.

Now just last friday I did 2cb with two of my friends. I did 25mg cause I didnt think it would be that strong since Iv already tripped a few times and 2cb is described as not being that strong. Anyway when Im coming up Im starting to feel like im being sucked out my body... I feel really horrible and just weird (again) and this lasts through alot of the trip till I sit down and listen to music (which I was scared to do because the headphones made my ears feel orgasmic) oh and also my face kept feeling flushed and I felt sick. But I started to calm down and watch some funny videos inside with my friends and by the end I had the time of my life laughing my ass off and having amasing CEV's

The thing is that during this phase where I feel horrible at the start I always think 'Im never doing this again', 'I cant wait for this to wear off' and 'I hate this' however by the end its always amazing and changes my view and I forget about how bad the first part was.
What Im wondering is: Is this a panic attack or a bad trip (I changed the setting multiple times and still felt the same) and also iv heard its really rare for a bad trip yet I got it 2/4 times so that makes me skeptical. Also is there any way to get rid of this because its the worst thing ever.

Any help would be appriciated so so much <3

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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: finebonsai]
    #23683141 - 09/27/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Besides the depersonalization from weed( which i can definitely relate to) it sounds like youre having normal trips.

For me theres always a part of the trip when i think "fuck i shouldnt do this, drugs are bad, theres a reason theyre illegal" and then i proceed to think about that before my mind gets distracted by something else and i forget the thought entirely.

These thoughts and feelings can definitely lead to a bad trip and be described as uncomfortable and difficult, though in the end it always seems to work out.

I think youre at a point where you kind of know what to expect from a trip, regardless of substance, and should expect that to happen every time since it seems to be a recurring thought. Just bear in mind that it passes.


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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: finebonsai]
    #23683153 - 09/27/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi!

Coming up is the hardest part, letting go, that great word called surrendering is something to learn. Shift in reality happens so strong and fast that it makes you want to resist what is happening. Mind makes up stuff, it is easy to get scared/go into negative affirmation with yourself while you are coming up. It may take time to practice, to get used to it.

Also the importance of set and setting can be never underestimated.
I feel that psychedelics are powerful tools for introspection and healing. Tripping brings lot of underlying subconscious stuff to daylight and it can make you confront very uneasy feelings.
It is great opportunity getting to know yourself.

To me it sounds like you are not having panic attacks, maybe you are very sensitive and you easily notice even slight changes when they take place. And when you can observe yourself without fear, sensitivity is something that makes your life quite wonderful and rich.

Fear makes us easily over think and analyze everything that we go through, even though there is the flow that you can tune in by letting go. Surrendering. :wink: Of course it is easier said than done, but you start to get hang of it little by little.

Beyond good and bad, there is only the trip,
some of the best experiences that I have had both heaven and hell.
And what a feeling, from darkness to light.

Much love!

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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: Ziu]
    #23686354 - 09/28/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi

Thank you for the response!

I guess you're right. The problem is I have literally no way of letting go like Im not sure how to do it even if I try my hardest. i realize now this is what I have to do but my mind wont let me especially on psychs because I cant stop freaking out.

Do you have any advice to help this like any songs or would phenibut help maybe?

Thanks again for all the advice :smile:

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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: JvF]
    #23686363 - 09/28/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah the denationalization really suck's I'm glad you get it because everyone else thinks ti doesnt sound that bad.

I realize now these are normal trips and yeah while I'm tripping i always think 'why did I do this drugs are bad my family would hate me ect' is there anyway to stop it quicker like listening to a certain music or something. Last time I tried to ground myself by watching youtube videos but it didnt really work.

Thank you for all the advice :laugh:

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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: finebonsai]
    #23686890 - 09/28/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Anything to take your focus/attention away from the intensity. The main thing is to calm down/relax during the come up, doing so will allow you to let go. Focusing on your breathing helps more than you would think, and some good instrumental music has always helped me, music seems to do away with the negative headspace for me and gives me something to focus on other than the intensity/internal tension.


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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: finebonsai]
    #23687537 - 09/28/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't mean to be a dick but if you pass out after smoking weed, you should NOT be doing psychs. Psychedelics are not for the faint of heart, they can really take you OUT THERE, with experiences like ego death, and the flow of a universal consciousness. And the worst thing to do is fight the trip, and that's what anxious people do, you can not stop the trip, so you must go with the flow. Shrooms are notorious for being relentless on your thoughts, just let your brain do its thing, do not try to control the trip, you will have a difficult experience if you do. My advice, is to keep smoking weed, get used to that, then in a couple years, or when you are ready, try a low dose acid or 1-1.5g of shrooms, if you are good on that, next time you can up the dose. Peace..


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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: Sacredskunk420]
    #23687567 - 09/28/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I never had that happen to me. I have had really bad panic attack on LSD. Only after I get done smoking weed though, or if I am smoking alot all at once. Even a couple hits will do it for me. I tend to avoid weed like the plague when i am tripping.

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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23688412 - 09/28/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have panic disorder with agorophpboa. Over time, the agorophobia has worked its way into including lsd trips. Now I cannot I trip anymore without high risk of panic attack. They're not true bad trips. Theyre not 'I'm losing my mind'. They're just 'oh god what is going on with my heart - will I burst a blood vessel. Whats this electric feeling in my head - am I having a seizure?' On top of that LSD raises heart rate and blood pressure which itself precipitates panic attacks. I need to get my psych issues worked out before I can trip again.


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Re: Panic Attacks On Psychs? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23689903 - 09/29/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When I started tripping usually shrooms or cid, I'd always take a couple rips, but as I learned more about psychs I found for me, weed takes away some of the vibrancy and psychedelia effect and leaves me kind of in a haze.


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