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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: Mr.Caterpillar]
#23705666 - 10/04/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting mix now. Why is your fogger not working
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: tump]
#23710082 - 10/05/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: Interesting mix now. Why is your fogger not working
I had set up two 5 head ultrasonic foggers, and then put them both through the internal relay of the "Image Digital Humidity Controller" (humidistat from Amazon - seems to work nicely, I have never found a humidistat that worked at high ranges before this one - and cheap too!). It seems that was too much load for the humidistat relay and the result was that my transformers were ruined - they don't work now. I should have set them up running through an external relay - oops! Luckily, I had a spare transformer laying around and put that into service, so now I have one fogger working. After adjusting fan speeds it seems to be providing enough fog. It needs to be like the Andean Cloud Forest, the coral islands of Zanzibar, or the Highlands of Sri Lanka in there!
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: Mr.Caterpillar]
#23726843 - 10/10/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Above is the top and bottom of the first tray. Yes, the bubble wrap side did better. Exposed side got hit by a humidity drop right at the onset of initiation, and never really recovered from that. I'm not used to growing on such thin substrate depths, and I am learning that it needs more watering than a thick substrate since it dries out more easily. Once a day I was opening up the bubble wrap top and bottom and letting it get more air for an hour or two. I suspect that the reason there is not more pinning toward the center of the tray is that when it first began to pin it was completely under the plastic and not getting enough air. I think in the future I will cut some slots in the bubblewrap to let a little more air in.

Here is a second tray I did. This one used a 1:8 spawn ratio in CVG (I want to see what the lowest spawn ratio I can use with coir is, and what I need to do to make coir work with low spawn ratios). This one was unwrapped as soon as I saw pins form.
Both trays have taken a beating as I have been growing them out as I build/adjust other parts of the room, however the main point was about bubble wrap and what benefit it might give to bottom pinning. In this respect, I am very gratified: I think the bubble wrap is great for setting pins on the bottom of a tray, and I intend to continue using it.
Already I have built a new shelving system that uses the bubble wrap to advantage. From this I expect more controlled results and will post something later.
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: Mr.Caterpillar]
#23727304 - 10/11/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since you want a low spawn ratio make straw logs
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: tump]
#23727327 - 10/11/16 02:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: Since you want a low spawn ratio make straw logs
Not sure what a straw log is, and I tend to avoid straw. I don't like shredding it - no fun! And it tends to contaminate unless composted.
I might go back to doing this:

However, I am thinking of substituting coir for straw when I build the pile.
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: Mr.Caterpillar]
#23727363 - 10/11/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No point in a coir compost. Straw can work up 1 to 20 ratio and still work. Coir doesn't do well past 1 to 5 ratio. RR and many other believe 1 to 4.
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: Mr.Caterpillar]
#23727410 - 10/11/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good job! 
What would happen if you tipped it on a 90 or a little less so it dont go kerplunk? The shroomise on the bottom dont look very happy.
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23728118 - 10/11/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtfcrazymofo said: Good job! 
What would happen if you tipped it on a 90 or a little less so it dont go kerplunk? The shroomise on the bottom dont look very happy.
Thanks! None of the shrooms look very happy in my experiment, but its not because of what direction they are growing, its because the sub lacks water and nutrition. When the mushrooms are bigger their weight will make them grow downward on the bottom. Turning the tray 90 deg would be difficult - sub would fall out or collapse. You could probably make a container that is like an ant farm with screens on either side, fill it, and watch it pin from the sides.
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Re: Double-sided fruiting experiment using propagation trays and bubble wrap [Re: tump]
#23728149 - 10/11/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: No point in a coir compost. Straw can work up 1 to 20 ratio and still work. Coir doesn't do well past 1 to 5 ratio. RR and many other believe 1 to 4.
RR talks a lot about enriching coir. I think if it is enriched correctly the spawn ratio can come down. Why not? RR also talks about using it as an amendment to hpoo compost, or maybe he just means mixed with cooked poo - I'd have to double check those notes.
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