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Puff
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Never take 40g of mushrooms 1
#23686695 - 09/28/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23686707 - 09/28/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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But what if we are all God to begin with.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
#23686714 - 09/28/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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we are apart of god, not god itself hes the one who made us he can also not go against the laws of physics he made as he is them and the outcome of everything he is love he is life
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff] 1
#23686747 - 09/28/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Laws of physics >Religious discussion
Huh? Bro we are ALL God. God isn't a man in the clouds creating people but think what you will.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23686793 - 09/28/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Puff said: i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
for realz?
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23686814 - 09/28/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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40g wet or dry?
How did you not puke?
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
#23686900 - 09/28/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: >Laws of physics >Religious discussion
Huh? Bro we are ALL God. God isn't a man in the clouds creating people but think what you will.
He didn't say God was a man in the clouds did he? We are all a part of God but we are not God in the sense that God's being extends well beyond the limitations of this physical realm.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23686996 - 09/28/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can you give us a more detailed report?...Sounds like you went in pretty deep.
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40 g is only 8 g less than my highest trip
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: yourboybob]
#23687685 - 09/28/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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god is an eternal being
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23688334 - 09/28/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah we get it, still high..
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with 40g dried he will be high until next year. seriously how do you guys do this? I took 4.4g and it blew my mind away and i had muscle spasms laying on the floor.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: crissel]
#23688455 - 09/28/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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crissel said: with 40g dried he will be high until next year. seriously how do you guys do this? I took 4.4g and it blew my mind away and i had muscle spasms laying on the floor.
Because of time with the substances and with their own minds. They've been insane enough times on these substances that they can navigate the insanity better than you. I'm way beyond most of my peers in this respect whereas I'm nowhere near most of the people on this website.
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I took 32 grams and was tripping for about 6 hours with a 2-3 hour come down. We also took 4ho dipt
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Mike4aco]
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Mike4aco said: 40 g is only 8 g less than my highest trip
Well then thats pretty bad ass then.
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crissel said: with 40g dried he will be high until next year. seriously how do you guys do this? I took 4.4g and it blew my mind away and i had muscle spasms laying on the floor.
Because of time with the substances and with their own minds. They've been insane enough times on these substances that they can navigate the insanity better than you. I'm way beyond most of my peers in this respect whereas I'm nowhere near most of the people on this website.
Yeah I'm the same, compared to the average person I'm a super psychonaut but when I read about what some of the people on here take my draw drops. Forty grams? wow.
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Dudes, mushrooms should last for 8 hours at any good fat dose. Get the fuck out
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Peyote Road]
#23688483 - 09/28/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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crissel said: with 40g dried he will be high until next year. seriously how do you guys do this? I took 4.4g and it blew my mind away and i had muscle spasms laying on the floor.
Because of time with the substances and with their own minds. They've been insane enough times on these substances that they can navigate the insanity better than you. I'm way beyond most of my peers in this respect whereas I'm nowhere near most of the people on this website.
Yeah I'm the same, compared to the average person I'm a super psychonaut but when I read about what some of the people on here take my draw drops. Forty grams? wow.
Yea, larvals dont react to mushrooms. They need like, 40 grams dried to be super cool and sweet about it.
It's moronic and not common at all.
5 grams dried is really fucking nuts, and if you need more you are more than likely a larval. A baby
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fractalsybolism said: Dudes, mushrooms should last for 8 hours at any good fat dose. Get the fuck out
Is there a reaction we can give you quick so you'll go away? That's obvious bullshit and he said Tripped for 6 hours with a 2-3 hour come down. Stop trolling, it's just annoying.
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Yeah your 5 gram trip is crazy and his 40 gram trip is for babies.. lol
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It's sad to call people that too.
That's just how it is though.
A nutty larval can out dose another normal person by 7 times and you would never know how that is possible unless you understood how void the human mind can be.
People who are sensitive to psychedelics are much smarter, actually.
You can give a caveman 7 grams and he wont say anything interesting about it. That is a fact.
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fractalsybolism said: Dudes, mushrooms should last for 8 hours at any good fat dose. Get the fuck out
Is there a reaction we can give you quick so you'll go away? That's obvious bullshit and he said Tripped for 6 hours with a 2-3 hour come down. Stop trolling, it's just annoying.
Just telling people how all you dorks are morons because 5 grams dried is very fucking intense. Those who don't think so have the mind of a child. They don't experience shit.
Trolling. About 40 gm mushroom doses. No that's not what I am saying things about.
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I couldnt imagine sitting down and eating 40 dried grams of fungi. Sounds like a dinner I wouldnt be able to stomach lol ;p The most I have ever taken was prolly almost 6 grams and I was gooone!
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I would delight in any study or science proving your point. You don't understand how language works if you think brain structure has anything to do with the amount of mushrooms you can comfortably ingest. Just because one cannot articulate their experience does not make them unintelligent or a 'larval.' You looking down on others this way on the other hand is better evidence for you being less socially developed than those you're putting down.
I don't even agree with taking 40g of mushrooms I think it's a good way to go nuts, for me, but anyone else? Fill ur boots. I just think you're being an ass.
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AstralAndrew said: I would delight in any study or science proving your point. You don't understand how language works if you think brain structure has anything to do with the amount of mushrooms you can comfortably ingest. Just because one cannot articulate their experience does not make them unintelligent or a 'larval.' You looking down on others this way on the other hand is better evidence for you being less socially developed than those you're putting down.
I don't even agree with taking 40g of mushrooms I think it's a good way to go nuts, for me, but anyone else? Fill ur boots. I just think you're being an ass.
Hey man though, fuck off about brain structure.
Let's not get into that and I never suggested we should, get into that.
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Whoa man, don't bring that science shit around me, I'm allergic.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: AVShroomer]
#23688543 - 09/28/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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AVShroomer said: I couldnt imagine sitting down and eating 40 dried grams of fungi. Sounds like a dinner I wouldnt be able to stomach lol ;p The most I have ever taken was prolly almost 6 grams and I was gooone! 
He speaks the truth. Mushrooms are not some alpha-variety-special of you pretending to be super bad-ass.
It makes fun of you for doing that after 2 grams.
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Metaphysics is already becoming a mainstream belief all on its own via yoga, tai chi, meditation, wicca, newagers, etc. Drugs are a very minor component and the government would not be banning drugs just to cover up metaphysics. It has more to do with foreign affairs, vietnam war protesters, economic political corruption, and racism.
I remember way back before I ever took any drugs, instead of being on these forums, I was on metaphysics forums devoting my life to achieving every metaphysical ability via various meditations and exercises. Everyone on the forum was scared that if they obtained any significant ability, the government would come and abduct them. It was funny.
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I would have thought people who dose that high are my friends, but apparently not I have learned As evidenced many times when meeting new people on tour over many years.
It could have even been a shitty tour, but anyway, those people are usually fucking retarded, and I reserve my judgement of people for DAYS.
I am not some quick-to-eyeball another person. That would be common, creepy and gay.
Sometimes people have taken too many doses and they think are kind, and i HOPEFULLY don't have do what I was set on this earth to do. Which is to destroy pretentious people and abuse them verbally.
That is hard on your average bearded asshole and they thank you later for calling them a fucking hipster.
Dosing real big just makes you a gnarly sort of dork unusually, and nobody has time for that.
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We have all been down the extreme mushroom rabbit hole. I once took 118 dry grams of pan cyan. The come up and body load was to much. You have to respect the mushroom because it can kill you. Not the high it self but the body load. About 4 weeks ago before my new born as born i only had 4 grams in lemon tek form. Very weak visuals but it increased my heart problems. Two hours in i had to go the hospital for the heart attack i was having. My point is that's the mental high is only worth so much is the sickness terms 30 is the max worth doing if you can handle it. And always a baby sitter stronger then you incase you lose touch. Jail holding while high is the worst
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: tump]
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Were you actually having a real heart attack or was it a panic attack? In a real heart attack they would have needed to use an anticlotting drug, do a surgery, or use a defibrillator, etc. Did you have a preexisting condition?
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It was a real heart attack. But i will tell you some hospitals suck. While having the attack they made me walk to my own hospital bed that still had blood stain on the bed form last guy. They didn't hook me up to the blood thinner for 20 mins after i was layed up. Didn't do ekg for two hours after that. I have conditions yes. Still most people aren't aware of your conditions until bad shit happens.
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fractalsybolism said: I would have thought people who dose that high are my friends, but apparently not I have learned As evidenced many times when meeting new people on tour over many years.
It could have even been a shitty tour, but anyway, those people are usually fucking retarded, and I reserve my judgement of people for DAYS.
I am not some quick-to-eyeball another person. That would be common, creepy and gay.
Sometimes people have taken too many doses and they think are kind, and i HOPEFULLY don't have do what I was set on this earth to do. Which is to destroy pretentious people and abuse them verbally.
That is hard on your average bearded asshole and they thank you later for calling them a fucking hipster.
Dosing real big just makes you a gnarly sort of dork unusually, and nobody has time for that.
The people who like to talk a lot about how impressive they are because they took a large dose of a psychedelic would be bragging about something else if they'd never taken a psychedelic.
While the people who don't feel the need to compare dick sizes sometimes take large doses of psychedelics and politely keep it to themselves. They almost never talk about it, so you never heard about it and made the false assumption that all of the people who take big doses are the first type I mentioned, the louder, more visible type.
Taking psychedelics doesn't make you into anything. They just allow you to experience things.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: healing]
#23689159 - 09/29/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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40g distributed is possible.
40g in one dose is....Bullitos Way.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Peyote Road]
#23689280 - 09/29/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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crissel said: with 40g dried he will be high until next year. seriously how do you guys do this? I took 4.4g and it blew my mind away and i had muscle spasms laying on the floor.
Because of time with the substances and with their own minds. They've been insane enough times on these substances that they can navigate the insanity better than you. I'm way beyond most of my peers in this respect whereas I'm nowhere near most of the people on this website.
Yeah I'm the same, compared to the average person I'm a super psychonaut but when I read about what some of the people on here take my draw drops. Forty grams? wow.
Your draw drops? like, your draws? No homo, right?...
Just kiddin with ya. haha.
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fractalsybolism said: It's sad to call people that too.
That's just how it is though.
A nutty larval can out dose another normal person by 7 times and you would never know how that is possible unless you understood how void the human mind can be.
People who are sensitive to psychedelics are much smarter, actually.
You can give a caveman 7 grams and he wont say anything interesting about it. That is a fact.
I agree with this, to an extent. I know a lot of people who dose much higher than me, but rarely gain any insight from their experiences.
But i hope you arent referring to OP.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: ak47myth]
#23689426 - 09/29/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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A guy who wrote a trip report on reddit on 18 grams said that the mushroom told him it doesn't really matter how much you take but you but how much you can let go. Sounds reasonable, after all, it is possible to already experience altered states of consciousness sober, though of course there will be a difference between 2 and 10 grams, but after that, I am not sure, but I am also not experienced.
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Psilocin (and DMT even more) are actually pretty potent serotonin releasers and reuptake inhibitors so it really doesnt surprise me that they could induce a heart attack in someone whos susceptible.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Peyote Road]
#23689858 - 09/29/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: >Laws of physics >Religious discussion
Huh? Bro we are ALL God. God isn't a man in the clouds creating people but think what you will.
He didn't say God was a man in the clouds did he? We are all a part of God but we are not God in the sense that God's being extends well beyond the limitations of this physical realm.
Can you be so sure that we ourselves aren't capable of our beings "extending well beyond the limitations of this physical realm"?
Where'd you get this info from, "the Bible"?
When people regularly speak about God it's usually in the sense of a bearded man in the clouds giving people life.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
#23692789 - 09/30/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Always take 40g of mushrooms though? YOu might have a seizure but gosh.
It is weird to talk about 40g of mushrooms. I am not so sure people can talk about it. I am pretty sure that is fuckin crazy. 7 grams is an insane dose.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
The times I've seen God clearly, I got the strong understanding, at the same time, that I was seeing the Entheogen that I had ingested.
Did you have the understanding that the God you were seeing was the Mushroom?
Sorry that people are being so negative towards you.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
*God
what a minute... God is real and the government isn't trustworthy? Heresies!!
it took drugs to tell you that? well shoot, I kinda feel cheated of some new and amazing information I didnt already know. um may i get a refund of the sixty seconds of my life I'll never get back?
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
#23693076 - 09/30/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd believe it all...except for the god part..
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: tump]
#23696167 - 10/01/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: We have all been down the extreme mushroom rabbit hole. I once took 118 dry grams of pan cyan. The come up and body load was to much. You have to respect the mushroom because it can kill you. Not the high it self but the body load. About 4 weeks ago before my new born as born i only had 4 grams in lemon tek form. Very weak visuals but it increased my heart problems. Two hours in i had to go the hospital for the heart attack i was having. My point is that's the mental high is only worth so much is the sickness terms 30 is the max worth doing if you can handle it. And always a baby sitter stronger then you incase you lose touch. Jail holding while high is the worst
Wise and informative. It can't be overlooked.
Three fingers in my left hand turn numb and freezing cold during the experience.
It's a bizzare experience, since we'd assume blood flow cut off would reduce a limb to room temperature, yet it's as if I've baked my hand in a freezer.
It isn't to say mushrooms are to blame wholly. I see it as a cause, but a sign of an underlying, problem caused by lifestyle vices.
When I enter to the spiritual mindset, a sub zero left hand and a convulsing right hand has emerged to be a perverse standard.
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always eat mushrooms dry its better on the stomach, and i also dont know why people do such low doses you need atleast 10g dry of the best mushrooms you can get to feel the full psilocybe effects. ALtho i wouldn't recomend 10g for any beginner
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: always eat mushrooms dry its better on the stomach, and i also dont know why people do such low doses you need atleast 10g dry of the best mushrooms you can get to feel the full psilocybe effects. ALtho i wouldn't recomend 10g for any beginner
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40 g is too much. I tried 14 g and almost died from the peak. Don't say i didn't warn you.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
You can say those things. All you can argue for is that you've perceived this entity and what you had excepted of telepathy and out of body experiences with striking realism.
There's no ''truth'' hidden by the government, come on...
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Doses that high are another beast, more of an extreme sport than a spiritual journey IMO. Whiting out such that you are completely separated from reality, won't remember anything you see and your ego is so utterly destroyed that your mind turns into the void and your thoughts are abstract mathematical patterns beyond comprehension gets old really fast.
I'd never dose an oral psychedelic that high. Vaped DMT breakthroughs have given me enough of a taste of that batshit crazy space to know I could probably handle a shroom dose that strong, but I know for sure that I wouldn't enjoy it and seriously doubt I would gain anything, let alone more than I would from my usual 2g p. cyanescens. Getting that fucked in the head just makes me feel shell-shocked afterward.
I can merge with God and astral project on a much, much lower doses, it's all about training the mind meditate, focus and to trip with less. Otherwise, taking obscene doses is just a symptom of excess youth and testosterone. More is isn't necessarily better. If you're having fun, then keep at it. You'll probably tire of it eventually. I don't get the chest thumping about how awesome these megatrips are, after a certain point your brain is just so saturated that you might as well just be passed out drunk.
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
You can say those things. All you can argue for is that you've perceived this entity and what you had excepted of telepathy and out of body experiences with striking realism.
There's no ''truth'' hidden by the government, come on...
The US has, so far, allowed the Daime Church, which believes that Ayahuasca is the "Blood of Christ" to have Ayahuasca, (which contains DMT). And New Mexico is allowing the "Vegetal" church to have Ayahuasca (so far). The US has an exemption for the Native American Church, who believe that Peyote is a Deity, to have Peyote. And, of course, there are US states that have legalized Marijuana.
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fractalsybolism said: It's sad to call people that too.
That's just how it is though.
A nutty larval can out dose another normal person by 7 times and you would never know how that is possible unless you understood how void the human mind can be.
People who are sensitive to psychedelics are much smarter, actually.
You can give a caveman 7 grams and he wont say anything interesting about it. That is a fact.
Shut the Fuck up!
...YOU Don't know shit! And your dose is pussy
Deal with it
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AstralAndrew said: Whoa man, don't bring that science shit around me, I'm allergic.
...lmfao!
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fractalsybolism said: I would have thought people who dose that high are my friends, but apparently not I have learned As evidenced many times when meeting new people on tour over many years.
It could have even been a shitty tour, but anyway, those people are usually fucking retarded, and I reserve my judgement of people for DAYS.
I am not some quick-to-eyeball another person. That would be common, creepy and gay.
Sometimes people have taken too many doses and they think are kind, and i HOPEFULLY don't have do what I was set on this earth to do. Which is to destroy pretentious people and abuse them verbally.
That is hard on your average bearded asshole and they thank you later for calling them a fucking hipster.
Dosing real big just makes you a gnarly sort of dork unusually, and nobody has time for that.
...he used GAY as a derogatory term...dude it's 2016 and you are some douche bigot...seriously....GTFO...LITERALLY!
take your hate elsewhere...
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: tump]
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tump said: We have all been down the extreme mushroom rabbit hole. I once took 118 dry grams of pan cyan. The come up and body load was to much. You have to respect the mushroom because it can kill you. Not the high it self but the body load. About 4 weeks ago before my new born as born i only had 4 grams in lemon tek form. Very weak visuals but it increased my heart problems. Two hours in i had to go the hospital for the heart attack i was having. My point is that's the mental high is only worth so much is the sickness terms 30 is the max worth doing if you can handle it. And always a baby sitter stronger then you incase you lose touch. Jail holding while high is the worst
Are u serious?
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: sunshine]
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sunshine said: 40 g is too much. I tried 14 g and almost died from the peak. Don't say i didn't warn you.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Mike4aco]
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I Think so.... went back down to 7 and 7 last week just to keep it recreational
.. we broke into a new vile and honestly it didn't seem to have the legs that the previous vial had... and it felt a little more tweaky..
I'm telling you though these mushrooms are f****** awesome and they bring on such levels of goofy euphoria it's pretty giddy for a little while....laughfest!
I really feel like seven and seven with weed is a pretty awesome place to be!
I had some weird thing with my eyeballs on Peak on the last trip and it was a little strange!... it was all fine in the end no worries but in the moment was a little concerning and strange...
Probably going back to 8 and 8 on this next one although I still wish we had some more of that fare-thee-well liquid! It is seriously the best I've ever had in my entire life
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Mike4aco]
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Fuck thank god someone else toned in, I thought I was going insane listening to this shit.
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fractalsybolism said: I would have thought people who dose that high are my friends, but apparently not I have learned As evidenced many times when meeting new people on tour over many years.
It could have even been a shitty tour, but anyway, those people are usually fucking retarded, and I reserve my judgement of people for DAYS.
I am not some quick-to-eyeball another person. That would be common, creepy and gay.
Sometimes people have taken too many doses and they think are kind, and i HOPEFULLY don't have do what I was set on this earth to do. Which is to destroy pretentious people and abuse them verbally.
That is hard on your average bearded asshole and they thank you later for calling them a fucking hipster.
Dosing real big just makes you a gnarly sort of dork unusually, and nobody has time for that.
...he used GAY as a derogatory term...dude it's 2016 and you are some douche bigot...seriously....GTFO...LITERALLY!
take your hate elsewhere...
Though, many of you don't seem to understand how a creative use of language might work. You get offended when someone uses the word "gay" in a context where they make it abundantly clear that they are probably not the kind of person to use a word like "gay" unless it was meant to be a short bit of humor. Like, taking the word back and making fun of it in a twisted context?
Sorry for inviting that response from a few of you. I was just encouraging people to become less offended all the time, and learn how to read a paragraph someone jokingly wrote. You know, without getting offended and attacking them.
I was fucking kidding. For a few people to literally not notice what a joke those 2 or so comments were, is truly insane.
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I have dosed very high on mushrooms a few times and I actually don't think it made me a douche bag.
To read my comments as if they were anything more than a joke with a touch of truth, you might think I hate people who dose high, and that I call them douches. That's only if you are not really "getting shit very well", and must be extremely bored not knowing who you are attacking. Not only are you attacking me and getting weird about shit, but you managed to act like you were offended. You used these "emoticons" to express yourselves.
Pretty cool
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fractalsybolism said: I have dosed very high on mushrooms a few times and I actually don't think it made me a douche bag.
To read my comments as if they were anything more than a joke with a touch of truth, you might think I hate people who dose high, and that I call them douches. That's only if you are not really "getting shit very well", and must be extremely bored not knowing who you are attacking. Not only are you attacking me and getting weird about shit, but you managed to act like you were offended. You used these "emoticons" to express yourselves.
Pretty cool
Ahhh yes the moral high ground everyone seems to scramble for these days.
Thank God for people like you.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: heratogwea]
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fractalsybolism said: I have dosed very high on mushrooms a few times and I actually don't think it made me a douche bag.
To read my comments as if they were anything more than a joke with a touch of truth, you might think I hate people who dose high, and that I call them douches. That's only if you are not really "getting shit very well", and must be extremely bored not knowing who you are attacking. Not only are you attacking me and getting weird about shit, but you managed to act like you were offended. You used these "emoticons" to express yourselves.
Pretty cool
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Ahhh yes the moral high ground everyone seems to scramble for these days.
Thank God for people like you.
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fractalsybolism said: I have dosed very high on mushrooms a few times and I actually don't think it made me a douche bag.
To read my comments as if they were anything more than a joke with a touch of truth, you might think I hate people who dose high, and that I call them douches. That's only if you are not really "getting shit very well", and must be extremely bored not knowing who you are attacking. Not only are you attacking me and getting weird about shit, but you managed to act like you were offended. You used these "emoticons" to express yourselves.
Pretty cool
So... if you dose high your not a douche and if either people do they are Mindless larvae....?? 
I will f****** outdose and out trip you anytime. I'll so many f****** intellectual circles around your little tiny mind that you're going to feel like a f****** pudding pop in Bill Cosby's mouth...
You Sir, are a joke
Deal with it!....
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: heratogwea]
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These massive dose posts are almost always troll posts as you can tell by how long they always last and how popular they are! Suggest a stupid dose and then just sit back and watch everybody fight.
Dosage is such a crazy thing to get competitive about as its impossible to know anyway what each person experiences from any given amount.
Voodoo may well be taking huge doses and is able to handle it better than others, though he may also need higher amounts to get to the same places other people get to on lower amounts. Who knows?
One man can take a shit load of acid and not feel very much, while some people have ended up being committed after taking a lone tab. You could say he cant handle his shit, but equally he might just get a lot further on alot less!
Some doses are just plain stupid and I would think a person able to take 40 grams dry of decent potency shrooms would certainly be operating on much lower sensitivity than your average person and might well just be semi retarded to begin with lol!
I mean its hard to comprehend how such a dose of 40 grams would be possible really as shrooms can be incredibly psychotic for me at even 3-5 grams of high potency!
I dont think this makes me 'a pussy' its simply a case of delusions beginning to set in which are always dangerous. Some people maybe dont react like this but its beyond my control and I am certainly more sensitive than I was in my younger days. I found over the years personally that I needed less and not more to get to the same places.
I am a hypocrite really cause deep down I am proud of my biggest experiences too, but it isn't really dose by which I measure them, but more the experience itself.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: wolf8312]
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wolf8312 said: These massive dose posts are almost always troll posts as you can tell by how long they always last and how popular they are! Suggest a stupid dose and then just sit back and watch everybody fight.
Dosage is such a crazy thing to get competitive about as its impossible to know anyway what each person experiences from any given amount.
Voodoo may well be taking huge doses and is able to handle it better than others, though he may also need higher amounts to get to the same places other people get to on lower amounts. Who knows?
One man can take a shit load of acid and not feel very much, while some people have ended up being committed after taking a lone tab. You could say he cant handle his shit, but equally he might just get a lot further on alot less!
Some doses are just plain stupid and I would think a person able to take 40 grams dry of decent potency shrooms would certainly be operating on much lower sensitivity than your average person and might well just be semi retarded to begin with lol!
I mean its hard to comprehend how such a dose of 40 grams would be possible really as shrooms can be incredibly psychotic for me at even 3-5 grams of high potency!
I dont think this makes me 'a pussy' its simply a case of delusions beginning to set in which are always dangerous. Some people maybe dont react like this but its beyond my control and I am certainly more sensitive than I was in my younger days. I found over the years personally that I needed less and not more to get to the same places.
I am a hypocrite really cause deep down I am proud of my biggest experiences too, but it isn't really dose by which I measure them, but more the experience itself.
Well said.... I wasn't trying to brag up about high-dose and I was just telling that cat to shut the f****** up... I totally agree that it's overall a sensitivity thing... I am super thoughtful and intellectual about my trips so to say somehow that I am weak minded and that is how I can take high doses it is absolutely ludicrous
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
It's what happened to me last year, check my thead:
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: wolf8312]
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wolf8312 said: These massive dose posts are almost always troll posts as you can tell by how long they always last and how popular they are! Suggest a stupid dose and then just sit back and watch everybody fight.
Dosage is such a crazy thing to get competitive about as its impossible to know anyway what each person experiences from any given amount.
Voodoo may well be taking huge doses and is able to handle it better than others, though he may also need higher amounts to get to the same places other people get to on lower amounts. Who knows?
One man can take a shit load of acid and not feel very much, while some people have ended up being committed after taking a lone tab. You could say he cant handle his shit, but equally he might just get a lot further on alot less!
Some doses are just plain stupid and I would think a person able to take 40 grams dry of decent potency shrooms would certainly be operating on much lower sensitivity than your average person and might well just be semi retarded to begin with lol!
I mean its hard to comprehend how such a dose of 40 grams would be possible really as shrooms can be incredibly psychotic for me at even 3-5 grams of high potency!
I dont think this makes me 'a pussy' its simply a case of delusions beginning to set in which are always dangerous. Some people maybe dont react like this but its beyond my control and I am certainly more sensitive than I was in my younger days. I found over the years personally that I needed less and not more to get to the same places.
I am a hypocrite really cause deep down I am proud of my biggest experiences too, but it isn't really dose by which I measure them, but more the experience itself.
 Yeah, there's also tolerance. I trip very infrequently so when I dose I feel the whole dose. People tripping once a week or even once a month are going to be feeling a lot less than if you trip once a year. And there's definitely a natural sensitivity or desensitivy. Some people can't even get visuals off 5g and some people get full "death and rebirth" sacred visions at that point.
There's a lot of dick waving in this thread that's pretty absurd. If you're taking 40g doses and finding the need to brag about it online or flame people then you're certainly not gaining a lot of insight and humility, which ought to be the aim of psychedelics IMO. I take the minimum amount I need to have a transcendent trip where I merge with the Godhead and feel connected to humanity. I don't see the point of blacking out or just seeing psychedelic snow with an mind literally empty of any thought. Maybe that kind of nullification is what people are seeking and it gives them peace. If so, cool.
I personally find high doses to be neither therapeutic nor recreational. So what's the point? Dick waving? No thanks. If you're getting something out of it, by all means dose high, but it doesn't make you a better person and it's probably making you a little soft in the head. I think we've all hit that honeymoon phase and overdone the pyschs, it can turn you into a paranoid fruitcake if you're not careful. We have enough of those around here already.
For those of you dosing this high, is there a point of diminishing returns? Do you really feel that much different at 30g vs 40g? I personally think I would probably black out after 20g, but I tend to trip very strongly compared to the average person at the same dose. I dunno, last time I did DMT the breakthrough left me unsettled for months, it was humbling but it also left me with some derealization and depersonalization. Not really positives or anything to seek out, IMO. I'd rather come through a trip and be like, "that was fucking AWESOME!" not "well I survived, but what the fuck was that?"
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Yea big different between 30 vs 40vs 100g. Are they fun different doses more fun? Hell no . the fun part of mushrooms are the trips where the wood floors flow and move like a river. After that phase like 10 g or 20g is good insightful stuff but hard to be fine body load. More then that is minded numbed be on deaths door sick. So 10 g more of the toxic compounds making you ill is much worse. The worse trip i had was the highest dose too. Not because i saw more crazy shit which stresses some out but not me what the horrible pain and throbbing all over. Added to the fact time feels like it slows down. I believe truly with my all my heart that people should start with 2.5 g first to not freak out. Then jump to 5 g to be mind mental attacked. Then straight to 25g to know the worst of it with a babysitter. After that find the dose that works for you.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: tump]
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40 gram dry would probably have most people covered in puke and tripping balls a good 24-48 hours straight, and what remains of sanity slowly returning a week later.
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Yeah I can't imagine the trip justifying the bodyload, but I think there has to be a point where you're too skullfucked to notice any additional effects. There has to be a saturation point where your synapses are maxed out and don't have room for any more psilocybin, or your ego is so blown away there there isn't any "you" left to comprehend it. Like DMT breakthroughs, a breakthrough is a breakthrough, I can double my breakthrough dose and it doesn't get any more intense, I just remember even less. There is no level beyond ego death, at least not that I've found, or if it's any different, you don't remember enough to quantify it. I don't get the draw. I'd like to hear detailed accounts of these trips, or at least honest descriptions of what they're like, but I'm guessing that people don't even remember much more than little flashes.
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I had some weird thing with my eyeballs on Peak on the last trip and it was a little strange!... it was all fine in the end no worries but in the moment was a little concerning and strange...
I've had a few weird things go on with my eyes on anything over 4g. Sometimes when a wave passed over I feel my eyeballs want to roll up in their sockets. It's not uncomfortable unless I try to fight it. I simply close my eyelids and that urge goes away.
Sometimes I've had my eyes water like there's no tomorrow, or eyelids that went to involuntarily flicker/flutter.
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You can remember the trips at a 100plus grams. But no you mentally come down 12 hours . still feel like crap but the visuals and most mental functionality is normal after. Not with pure dmt nor lsd but mushrooms yes to that. But its the same mindset as getting high on be Diphenhydramine sure 150mg is nice little high with a body load. Lets try 2500mg next time but after 500 mg the visuals and high is the same all the extra 2000mg is doing making you sicker and longer
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fractalsybolism said: I have dosed very high on mushrooms a few times and I actually don't think it made me a douche bag.
To read my comments as if they were anything more than a joke with a touch of truth, you might think I hate people who dose high, and that I call them douches. That's only if you are not really "getting shit very well", and must be extremely bored not knowing who you are attacking. Not only are you attacking me and getting weird about shit, but you managed to act like you were offended. You used these "emoticons" to express yourselves.
Pretty cool
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Ahhh yes the moral high ground everyone seems to scramble for these days.
Thank God for people like you.
....... ....OMG ...I'm so fucking thankful for people like him....He "gets it" 
I feel like you might be the last person on this site who should be misusing the Jerry Garcia emoticon. The called "smugjerry" to top it off, as his image was meant to be misused apparently.
I am pretty sure he was super cool and didn't like common rock and roll interviews which is where they got the photo for that. It could have been a friendly Letterman appearance for all I know. He made that face regularly. So it is a fucky emoticon. It is ironic and backwards... I am pretty sure he was not all about bad and smug vibes.
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I am pretty sure some people in this thread "get" what 40 grams is. Some of them probably understood my weird comments too.
Voodoochild1000, do you have a smug-looking picture of Hendrix you can misuse in your emoticon language? Fucking smartypants.
This is like, so me on 750 acids!
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P.Zappatecorum said: Yeah I can't imagine the trip justifying the bodyload, but I think there has to be a point where you're too skullfucked to notice any additional effects. There has to be a saturation point where your synapses are maxed out and don't have room for any more psilocybin, or your ego is so blown away there there isn't any "you" left to comprehend it. Like DMT breakthroughs, a breakthrough is a breakthrough, I can double my breakthrough dose and it doesn't get any more intense, I just remember even less. There is no level beyond ego death, at least not that I've found, or if it's any different, you don't remember enough to quantify it. I don't get the draw. I'd like to hear detailed accounts of these trips, or at least honest descriptions of what they're like, but I'm guessing that people don't even remember much more than little flashes.
Thats so true dude, hyperspace is very much a place.
I liken it to mentally breaking the light barrier, it doesent go any further or any faster and nor does it need to, or could it! As I always say, it is already the most intense intensity endlessly accelerating ever more intensely. The only way I can put it!
If it can indeed get more intense than that it certainly dosent need to and I certainly wouldnt want it to!
There is a lower spirit realm one can reach with lesser doses, but just as you said about a breakthrough- hyperspace, is hyperspace, is hyperspace.
It is limited only in the sense that there are no limitations to what it is capable of showing you. It is like a dream but only in the sense that dreams are all as equally capable of anything at different times, though some will also be more amazing than others at different times.
It's just a case of what they choose to show you. But dreams, are dreams, are dreams, metaphysical places you visit. The most terrifying aspect of hyperspace is its unlimited power potential, and potency. It can pretty much show you anything, but the experience is all there is and therein lies the trouble. The only time you can really comprehend it, is when you are actually there but it allows nothing through customs to be taken home.
Nobody can possess these experiences or own them like expensive possessions that they can show off or claim credit for. I took 20 grams therefore I own and am an expert on the 20 gram experience and psychedelics in general! Sadly it dosent work like that!
In actual fact invariably you take home with you only a few vague mental images of chaos/hallucination/delusion or perhaps an indistinct sense of dread or insanity. After that we attempt to associate the sheer awesomeness of the experience with ourselves in a similar way to how moronic nationalists attempt to incorporate into themselves the achievements of their own nation! Great Britain great man, great trip...well you get the idea!
Sober it is an utterly impossible to comprehend experience and all one has left is a tempting sense of awe or wonder which is very often responsible for enticing idiots like me back again. Once back I can scarcely believe I have been so stupid as to have been duped into it all again!
People will say 'you were tripping' and so an utterly 'smashed out of his mind' and discredited witness of which to objectively verify the existence of hyperspace. But equally absurd is soberly attempting to dismiss it! A sober man has no comprehension whosoever of what it is he is talking about- for he cannot in any meaningful way remember or grasp the experience and even if he could he would not be able to describe it even to himself.
Thats what always gets me you know we/it are real now, but you'll go back home and nobody will ever believe you, you'll never be able to explain it! And back you go again!
Taking ridiculous doses is almost invariably a self-destructive impulse not much different to a man drinking alcohol or using heroin to excess.
It becomes more about reporting the experience on the shroomery and maintaining the far out identity/reputation than it does the experience itself. You have to seriously sit down and ask yourself what you are trying to achieve by pushing dangerous psychosis inducing substances to the limits of your mental capacity to contain them. That way lies insanity, and despite many people attempting to romanticize and associate insanity with genius, take it from me its an utterly hideous disgustingly evil experience. Think about your loved ones.
I personally will no longer use psychedelics, as I now have a family and son and finally feel free to break away from them or rather know that I have to.
I dont want my kid to ever go through some of the experiences I have with psychedelics or cannabis and worry a great deal about drug culture in western society and how I can keep my kid away from it.
Its one thing to do these things but another entirely to be like I was and utterly reckless. Played with my mind like it was nothing but a god damned toy...
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: wolf8312]
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Thanks for that intelligent response. Definitely sounds like these doses are similar to my DMT breakthrough experiences, only they're 5 hours long instead of 15-30 minutes. I feel the same way about those trips as you're describing, always tempted to go back but then when you do you're like "why the fuck do I keep doing this to myself?" I gave away all my DMT after 10 breakthroughs. I learned enough and decided it wasn't for me. I don't think I would ever dose that high on LSD or mushrooms, that's a very long time to be comatose on the floor completely unresponsive to the world and I agree that it's basically as excessive and self destructive as getting black out drunk.
To each is own, everybody finds that sweet spot where they get the most out of the psychedelic experience and it's different for each person and there's nothing wrong with experimenting to find the limits, but only a fool bangs his head against a wall over and over again just to prove how tough he is. Happy tripping everyone.
 
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fractalsybolism said: I am pretty sure some people in this thread "get" what 40 grams is. Some of them probably understood my weird comments too.
Voodoochild1000, do you have a smug-looking picture of Hendrix you can misuse in your emoticon language? Fucking smartypants.
This is like, so me on 750 acids!
....omg....with the gay shit again?
Not only are you a total joke
You are also some homophobic bigoted f******* piece of shit..
Your parents must have been some backwards ass bigoted racist types or something because you definitely didn't get raised worth a fuck...
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I know this is a bit of an old thread, but this shit is ridiculous. 100 plus grams of cubes dryed. Gtfu. Completely setting the trip aside that would be like 5 quart jars full of fruits. For one that sounds just digusting sitting there chowing down on that much dried mushrooms. That would take quite some time to scarf down that much. Plus that amount of mushroom matter would probably make you spray from both ends. Even 40 grams sounds ridiculous, but more in the realms of possible being about 2 quart jars. I once saw two people try and eat a half a zip a piece both of them started puking just after 10 grams. Natural tolerance has nothing to do with how badass you are. It comes down to brain chemistry, tolerance. I for one has a low tolerance to psych's. Always have in my 20 years of experience. I have a friend who can eat twice as much as i can. But i tell you what i can drink that guy under the table and he dr8nks more than i do and i do more psychs than him. It comes down to brain chemsitry.
Tump i call bullshit on this.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: molemole]
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Pshhh I eat 40+ grams of mushrooms A DAY. They are delicious and store bought.
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Puff said: trips unexplainable, you wont be able to see at all. You will only know feeling and observing anything you think of pops up in 3d all i have to say it will convince you of gods exsistance. the most spiritual thing ever i can say gods real i can say telepathy works i can say out of body experiences are real (not lucid dreaming) i can say mushrooms and lsd are illegal because the goverment dont want you to find out the truth believe me or not it is your choice
You can say those things. All you can argue for is that you've perceived this entity and what you had excepted of telepathy and out of body experiences with striking realism.
There's no ''truth'' hidden by the government, come on...
Strange enough my trips of 7-14 grams tell me similar, take it for what b it's worth.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: molemole]
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molemole said: I know this is a bit of an old thread, but this shit is ridiculous. 100 plus grams of cubes dryed. Gtfu. Completely setting the trip aside that would be like 5 quart jars full of fruits. For one that sounds just digusting sitting there chowing down on that much dried mushrooms. That would take quite some time to scarf down that much. Plus that amount of mushroom matter would probably make you spray from both ends. Even 40 grams sounds ridiculous, but more in the realms of possible being about 2 quart jars. I once saw two people try and eat a half a zip a piece both of them started puking just after 10 grams. Natural tolerance has nothing to do with how badass you are. It comes down to brain chemistry, tolerance. I for one has a low tolerance to psych's. Always have in my 20 years of experience. I have a friend who can eat twice as much as i can. But i tell you what i can drink that guy under the table and he dr8nks more than i do and i do more psychs than him. It comes down to brain chemsitry.
Tump i call bullshit on this.
Not to say 100g would ever be easy to get down, but in your 20 years of experience have you never ground up dried mushrooms? 40g of dried cubes put through a coffee grinder would take up very little room. I've done 20g ground up and soaking in lemon juice with no problems and I have no doubt that 40g would be just as easy to get down once ground up properly.
Now what comes after those 40g or 100g get down is a whole other story...
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: Puff]
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Puff said: always eat mushrooms dry its better on the stomach, and i also dont know why people do such low doses you need atleast 10g dry of the best mushrooms you can get to feel the full psilocybe effects. ALtho i wouldn't recomend 10g for any beginner
This is cute, you must not get very good mushrooms if you need 10g to feel the full effect. Take 10g of dried cyans or azzies and tell us how that goes.
I am all for pushing boundaries, but 40g is more than excessive in my book. Although I have been reading more and more about people doing 20+ grams, and it has been intriguing me. Still seems like overkill to me though.
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Fractal octupus. Yes, in my twenty years i have done all kinds of stuff with dried mushrooms. Made chocolates, grinded them up and into capsules. That would still be alot of mushroom matter. I would imagine it would make one not feel so good as far as thier stomach. Grinding would probably make it better. But still. In my twenties years, the most i have ever seen somone eat was 14 grams. Just seems hard to believe without massive tolerance buildup. But then again i have seen people who can't blast off on Dimitri.
I can say i am glad i don't need that much. My tolerance is still really low. 4.5 grams is plenty for me. I have no desire to go balls to the wall anymore.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: molemole]
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5g for me is a HUGE trip. Ive seen people take upwards of 9, it doesnt seem like fun to me.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
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We are God only because God was God first.
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Re: Never take 40g of mushrooms [Re: molemole]
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molemole said: Fractal octupus. Yes, in my twenty years i have done all kinds of stuff with dried mushrooms. Made chocolates, grinded them up and into capsules. That would still be alot of mushroom matter. I would imagine it would make one not feel so good as far as thier stomach. Grinding would probably make it better. But still. In my twenties years, the most i have ever seen somone eat was 14 grams. Just seems hard to believe without massive tolerance buildup. But then again i have seen people who can't blast off on Dimitri.
I can say i am glad i don't need that much. My tolerance is still really low. 4.5 grams is plenty for me. I have no desire to go balls to the wall anymore.
4.5 is balls to the wall to me
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I took 14g dried one time. The worst part the "controlled freak out" if you will lasted 2-3 hours. It came on SOOO FUCKING HARD. I had full on hallucinations. I was at a buddy's apartment sitting in a small room with all walls covered in fucking wood grained paneling. That shit was a river of BRIGHT tie died colors all over the wall. The dresser bent way way out of shape on me. When I was puking them up, about an hour in, I saw, well think I saw, a fucking cartoon turtle doing a fucking backstroke in the toilet. I shook my head and all there was there was the puked up shrooms. I splashed my face with water and got control of myself. It was hard, but I had to keep reminding myself that it would pass. I got enough control that I had some deep inner self experiences. I didn't do shrooms for a couple weeks after that and then always stayed in the 3.5-5g dry range. Its now been some years since I had shrooms, possibly 5, and I am ready again. maybe not 14g but I need to get to know myself inside better and plan to Slowly push it.
I don't doubt that there are some people out there that have pushed the level high as fuck. I imagine that they grind them up and put them in pill capsules and down them fast. If you get a big release all at once then by time you puke its to late and that intense trip is on.
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Making Tea with dried up and finely grounded mushrooms into a powder allows you to use massive doses that normally cannot be achieved fully through eating the mushroom bodies alone. It comes on much much faster. One can fit about 10 grams in 1 tea bag and about 5 tea bags per 3 cups of water before there is diminishing returns in the amount absorbed into the water.
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tump said: We have all been down the extreme mushroom rabbit hole. I once took 118 dry grams of pan cyan.
oh man, thats a good one.
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Have been consuming GT dried only on my bdays since 2016 and next month for my 42nd I shall consume 42g dried of Golden teacher in Lemon Tek. Have already consumed 20g dried before and had an amazing experience.
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