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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23687923 - 09/28/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Exactly. The left is born of antiestablishment sentiment.

Thats why I chuckle everytime I hear "liberal media." Right, Viacom is totally trying to advocate an agenda that raises taxes and regulations upon itself.




Are warren buffet and bill gates conservatives?

The biggest corporatists are liberal, that's a fact




You're a moron if you think corporatists are liberal. This is your most ridiculous claim yet.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23687935 - 09/28/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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thread is about RELIGION.




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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: qman]
    #23687944 - 09/28/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Religion is stupid and youre stupid if youre religious.

Youre unknowingly erecting another giant hurdle for humankind. Knock it off you stupid idiots!


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23688248 - 09/28/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

semi-funny video, but it's insight at how comedic insults can be levelled at Islam, and at a clip, but i will however cut to the chase; a comedian says, in response to a question, why did you insult us, he says, "Anything with a status has a kind of power, and power always corrupts. It must be allowed for it to be subjected to ridicule, when that is not possible anymore, you get nasty situations..."

that's the power of comedy -- and purpose. it's a way to stifle powers corruption.



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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23688423 - 09/28/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Free speech only matters when it applies to those you disagree with."

- I forget


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23688437 - 09/28/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i imagine that those ladies would not like the world without comedians and people whom aren't Muslim; i'm sure they'd prefer the relaxed environment they are on there more than the Harem.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23689300 - 09/29/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Liberalism is the religion of the left, is it not?


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23689528 - 09/29/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It makes no sense to talk of modernising the Abrahamic religions because the entire point of them is to retard human spiritual and social progress.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23689617 - 09/29/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Liberalism is the religion of the left, is it not?




No, it isnt.


Do that, though, from now on. Ask the people who know what theyre talking about if youre wrong or not. Save us all a lot of time.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: viktor]
    #23689778 - 09/29/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It makes no sense to talk of modernising the Abrahamic religions because the entire point of them is to retard human spiritual and social progress.



no, it makes perfect sense, from a political perspective. to outright deny the attempt to modernise and help modernise these religions is more dangerous than anything, because they ultimately ain't going anywhere.

these are your brilliant posts, viktor?

fuck me....


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23690123 - 09/29/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is a Guy towards the end of this video that is a Jew, but mentions about Jesus and what he stand for in his religious book, the Kabbalah. He is basically doesn't understand the purpose of Jesus mission was. And that it is to put us back on the right path, because we were all heading down the wrong direction that leads us to doing acts that leads to death.

Proverbs 17:13 Evil will never leave the house of one who pays back evil for good.

Matthew 5:43  “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God,



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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23690443 - 09/29/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

he was exactly right when he mentioned meditation (and such things) brings us all closer to our sameness. the Jews meditated. with incense, and prayer and everything.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23691773 - 09/29/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Religion and spirituality are hardly the same, religion follows a dogma, spirituality does not

You say you want to modernize religion, when there is no room for modernization. If you do, it's not religion


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691778 - 09/29/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you can modernise it. Christianity was modernised, after-all, wasn't it? that's what i always hear. :shrug:


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23691804 - 09/29/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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you can modernise it. Christianity was modernised, after-all, wasn't it? that's what i always hear. :shrug:




Not that I'm aware of, the church may have changed some rules but the religion it's self never has

That's my understanding anyway


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691821 - 09/29/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Christianity was modernised, now they do not burn witches, and the like...don't act like you don't know these things. you know Christianity modernised, you just don't want to admit that's the line of thinking here that manages to work.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23691870 - 09/29/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Can you show me where you are commanded to burn witches in the New Testament? That was a decision by the church, not the religion itself

Think of it as communism, the rules are the rules, sure, you can change them, but then it is no longer communism,

This is only my understanding of the issue, maybe a theologian can weigh in


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23691874 - 09/29/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Christianity has clearly modernized.

They went from sharia law honor killing crazy, to "eh it doesnt really matter if you follow any of the laws of the bible as long as youre a decent person we're cool."

Come on.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23691879 - 09/29/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Can you show me where you are commanded to burn witches in the New Testament? That was a decision by the church, not the religion itself

Think of it as communism, the rules are the rules, sure, you can change them, but then it is no longer communism,

This is only my understanding of the issue, maybe a theologian can weigh in




The fact that there is a NEW Testament at all proves their was a dulling of the edges. The Old Testament is far more barbaric.


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Re: Modernising Religion [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23691894 - 09/29/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you can apply the same logic to Islam -- Sam Harris says that the ideals perpetuated within the religion is due to the literature they ascribe their philosophy to. :shrug: check mate. (also, funny, you don't ask for a theologian when casting aspersions on Islam, eh?)

PS: For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

also, as an aside.

And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

nice...confuse people into damnation. thanks Jesus.


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