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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Understanding the Kratom Ban * 10
    #23685794 - 09/28/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Make no mistake - the reason they are doing this is one hundred percent because they know Kratom helps thousands of people quit pharmaceutical opiates or avoid becoming addicted to them in the first place by using it as a natural alternative to things like Vicodin or Percocet that they hold patents for and profit from.

More people In the USA are on pain pills than smoke cigarettes.

With opiate pills they have engineered the ultimate form of social control- chemical slavery and an addiction tax .

They get everyone hooked on highly addictive drugs and they control the supply. Then no one can possibly focus on any kind of rebellion and will pay large amounts of money to the pharmaceutical companies .

Kratom throws a small monkey wrench into their plan by allowing some people to avoid or escape the trap and that cuts into their unholy profits.

It's pure evil and it's the criminalization of the injured, sick and depressed . It will directly cause thousands of people to go back on pharmaceutical pills or go on pills for the first time.

A large percentage of those people will become or remain addicted and some will overdose and die.

Those deaths are the direct responsibility of the evil criminals who orchestrated the criminalization of a safe natural plant and made thousands of new criminals when prisons are Already massively overcrowded .

Meanwhile, actual opium poppy pods and seeds remain legal.

This law is absurd, unjust and hypocritical.

It is evil. It's a vicious attack on the vulnerable and weak.

It will break up families and fathers will be taken away from their children and thrown in a cage for possession of a dried leaf no more harmful than coffee, with zero rational, moral or scientific basis for why this should be so.

America, you have no freedom. You are not a democracy. You are enslaved by predators who want to control, oppress and exploit you.

If you do not have control over your own body and state of consciousness you are not free.

If safe plants are illegal while alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical heroin kill tens of thousands a year , your government, nation and system of law is insane.

Madness has ruled your nation for too long. To expand the miserable failure of the drug war to encompass more natural plants, created by God and provided by Mother Earth, is a step too far.

Resist with all your might, or flee.

You have my sympathy and my love . The world watches in horror as the tragedy that is America unfolds in grotesque majesty.

The spreading legalization of weed gives me hope, while the blanket ban of psychoactive substances in the UK shows that America is not alone in its evil cryptocratic oligarchical madness.

Praise Jah! Babylon system shall be washed away.

Get up stand up! Stand up for your rights ! Get up, stand up! Don't give up the fight!
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Edited by Moonshoe (09/28/16 08:39 AM)


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Invisibleplasma
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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23685881 - 09/28/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Jah bless


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23685936 - 09/28/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It is totally absurd, destructive and an inexcusable injustice.
All I feel is fight.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23685961 - 09/28/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you're only enslaved if you choose to take the drugs to begin with though...

kratom, poppy pods, etc may all be illegal, but are essentially readily available.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: theonlysun81] * 3
    #23686193 - 09/28/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

most people trust their doctors and end up ruining their lives as a result.

Never blindly accept what a doctor says. Always do your own research before taking any new drug.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686212 - 09/28/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The funny thing is every drug that is consumed nowadays is purchasable from your computer to be shipped to your doorstep.

None of this legislation really affects us who are tech savvy, it only further proves the failure of the war on drugs


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23686243 - 09/28/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

THANKS CAPT OBVIOUS!


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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23686298 - 09/28/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It was clear from reading some other threads not everyone had a clean grasp of it.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23686313 - 09/28/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its clear from reading some other threads some people dont have a clear understanding of life.

Im definitely one of them and so are you :tongue:


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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23686472 - 09/28/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am afraid I don't understand what you are trying to say, or what point you are trying to make.

Feel free to elaborate .


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686498 - 09/28/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

its very general thematic comment on the nature of life itself.

whats not to get?


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686504 - 09/28/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

While I agree with your sentiment, moonshoe, I don't think it is fair to diss tobacco. Tobacco is more of a medicine than most people realize.

Peace and love :heart:


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23686505 - 09/28/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What are you on right now ?

Just curious .


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686508 - 09/28/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wish I could rate you for that post. Well said.:kaneclap:


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686510 - 09/28/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sadly nothing....didnt you see my WCA

gonna go grab some noidz in a bit and do PST or POSSIBLY smack tonight but prob PST


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: JustForToday]
    #23686788 - 09/28/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks :japsmile:

Why can't you give ratings ?

@Conn: that's cool. I bet if I ever tried it PST would be my drug of choice.

A legal, natural , serious opiate . Amazing !

Enjoy friend :hug:


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686799 - 09/28/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

really?

i wouldnt have expected you to say that but i suppose all the more reason to avoid it maybe..?

dont get me wrong Poppy tea is one of my favorite drugs but its not my all time favorite, weed will forever hold that spot.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23686832 - 09/28/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well yeah weed will always be my DOC too but I barely consider it as it's an absolute constant in my life.

But other than that Kratom has been my DOC and I absolutely love it.

I assume poppy seed or pod tea would be just like Kratom (legal opioid) but way more Potent and euphoric .

I assume poppy seed tea is like super Kratom.

If so I would love it way too much.

I ended up addicted to Kratom (fortunately broke the dependence
Now) so I know If I ever tried pst or ppt I would get so addicted and it would be game over.

One thing I like about Kratom is it gave me a little taste of opioid dependence and that scared me away from ever trying any other opiate.

I am grateful for that .


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23686835 - 09/28/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I see no evidence for anything here.  It is not so obvious to me.  I still think it has more to do with fear and authority than it does profits.


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Re: Understanding the Kratom Ban [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23686840 - 09/28/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

its similar to kratom but different at the same time, maybe one day youl try it and find out since the exact differences cant be put into words


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