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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Herbologist]
    #23686097 - 09/28/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I can't believe this is even a discussion.  Nobody is holding anyone down.  It's not like people in ghetto's dont have school.

They could put their nose down, finish school, get a job and get out of the hood for good.  Nobody is stopping them.  Descendants of slaves aren't owed shit.  Because that's exactly what they are, descendants.  They were never involved and never will be.




That's a perfectly reasonable thing to say as long as you believe that nobody has the right to inherit wealth from previous generations. Do you support the 100% death tax?


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods] * 1
    #23686103 - 09/28/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's good for them. But this isn't about them, just as the enslavement of their ancestors is not about them.




No, you made the false claim that money is prohibiting blacks from obtaining an education, they can borrow money just like everyone else, you do realize that there's over $1.2 TRILLION in student debt today? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-growing-student-loan-debt-crisis-2016-01-15


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods] * 1
    #23686106 - 09/28/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You are so focused on wealth.  How about Ben Carson for example?  He was born into poverty and raised by a single mother.  Look at him now, famous neurosurgeon who was part of a presidential campaign.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Astral Pain] * 4
    #23686108 - 09/28/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Gov't owes me reparations for having to buy coke at such an inflated price.

It's just another deal with people trying to negate personal responsibility. When you can't accomplish under your own power just point your finger at everyone else. Can you imagine how stupid and careless you'd have to be to risk getting shot, possibly terrorize some people and give them ptsd just to steal some stuff. Stop telling these border line retarded, entitled, shitheads that we owe them something.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: qman]
    #23686117 - 09/28/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's good for them. But this isn't about them, just as the enslavement of their ancestors is not about them.




No, you made the false claim that money is prohibiting blacks from obtaining an education, they can borrow money just like everyone else, you do realize that there's over $1.2 TRILLION in student debt today? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-growing-student-loan-debt-crisis-2016-01-15




Yeah, I do realize that. People who take on student debt like that are often putting themselves in a worse situation than if they hadn't gone to college. Student debt is a burden. I'm saying we allow these kids to attend college without that burden.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23686126 - 09/28/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Gov't owes me reparations for having to buy coke at such an inflated price.

It's just another deal with people trying to negate personal responsibility. When you can't accomplish under your own power just point your finger at everyone else. Can you imagine how stupid and careless you'd have to be to risk getting shot, possibly terrorize some people and give them ptsd just to steal some stuff. Stop telling these border line retarded, entitled, shitheads that we owe them something.




That's just a bullshit argument. If you live in a ghetto, your upward mobility is severely constrained. You are born so far behind people with even a little wealth. How do you get a job when there are none. How do you eat healthy food when there are no grocery stores. How do you get a good education when there is no culture of learning. Ghettos literally can't save themselves. they don't have the resources. The cycle of poverty will just continue as it has for all the generations since slaves were freed without anything to call their own.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods]
    #23686138 - 09/28/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's good for them. But this isn't about them, just as the enslavement of their ancestors is not about them.




No, you made the false claim that money is prohibiting blacks from obtaining an education, they can borrow money just like everyone else, you do realize that there's over $1.2 TRILLION in student debt today? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-growing-student-loan-debt-crisis-2016-01-15




Yeah, I do realize that. People who take on student debt like that are often putting themselves in a worse situation than if they hadn't gone to college. Student debt is a burden. I'm saying we allow these kids to attend college without that burden.




That type of policy wouldn't improve race relations or black employment, it would do the complete opposite.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: qman]
    #23686155 - 09/28/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

But it would improve black education level.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: qman]
    #23686159 - 09/28/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What it will do, is give a small number of people an opportunity to lift themselves out of poverty and raise children that are no longer stuck in that cycle. Even people,e back in the ghetto benefit from having one of their own make it out.

As for race relations, what I assume you are saying is whiny ass bitches will complain that black people are getting a benefit they don't have. Well, grow the fuck up. Life isn't fair. That's kinda the point. Maybe someone should have thought about fairness when they wrote into the constitution that you could own people of a certain race.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods] * 1
    #23686189 - 09/28/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what I assume you are saying is whiny ass bitches will complain that black people are getting a benefit they don't have. Well, grow the fuck up. Life isn't fair. That's kinda the point. Maybe someone should have thought about fairness when they wrote into the constitution that you could own people of a certain race.




So you support segregation of government assistance.

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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23686205 - 09/28/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You should look up words before using them.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23686222 - 09/28/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We paid out money to the families of victims of 9/11 because it is understood that lost wealth is detrimental to the family members left behind. Why is it a stretch to say the families of people who were deprived of any ability to even have wealth aren't affected in a similar way?


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23686253 - 09/28/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What disadvantage were you born with?





poverty


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23686255 - 09/28/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

We're all born into poverty.  That's a level playing field, not a disadvantage.

I went from poverty to a high six figure income.  You went form poverty to relying on government handouts in the form of dependent child tax breaks.  We both had the same opportunities.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #23686256 - 09/28/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But it would improve black education level.





you know what else would improve black education levels.

paying attention in school and not relying on becoming a pro athlete/rapper/producer,
fathers that stick around and take an active roll in a kids life, baby mommas that
arent cranking out kids by the dozen with different fathers just to increase their
benefits and hopefully find someone that will stay


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23686263 - 09/28/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's absurd.  In a system where schools are funded by local property taxes, there is a huge disparity in the quality of schools depending on the socio-economic level of the community.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23686264 - 09/28/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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We're all born into poverty.






lol.

I think you'll need to prove this to me


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23686267 - 09/28/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've yet to see anyone born owning anything or having any income.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23686280 - 09/28/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's absurd.  In a system where schools are funded by local property taxes, there is a huge disparity in the quality of schools depending on the socio-economic level of the community.





so the inner city schools in say atlanta do not collect as much in property taxes?
those taxes are based on the value of real estate, a building in atlanta can be
worth billions, if there's thousands of buildings worth 100 million each, that's a
shitload of property taxes compared to a rural area where properties are valued at a
much lower rate. arent inner city areas also more densely populated? more
population in a smaller area, all of them needing housing, it would stand to
reason that those large cities collect plenty for education since so much of the
property taxes collected are from commercial and industrial properties where there
are no children that use those same tax dollars

but wait... what of those federal education dollars you failed to mention?


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil] * 4
    #23686284 - 09/28/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I've yet to see anyone born owning anything or having any income.





lol... what a horse shit argument


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