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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] 2
#23684906 - 09/27/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know how you became a lawyer with reading comprehension like yours.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23684908 - 09/27/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: What if those black slave owners have great grand children of mixed race... do we tax the lighter skinned ones more than the darker skinned ones?
And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
I've got records on my lineage (both through family records one of my aunts has compiled as well as from Ancestry.com and public records) Our line originally immigrated from Scotland and elsewhere since the 1600's, settling the Atlantic Coast and Canada. And not a single one of my great great grandparents ever owned a single slave.
Why are you obsessed with the slave owners? This has nothing to do with their decendants. This has to with the decendants of slaves.
In 1860, 155 years ago, over 80% of black people in the United States were slaves. Millions of people who were owned as property instead of acquiring property and wealth. That is a huge disadvantage that has echoed down through the generations.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] 1
#23684913 - 09/27/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Born and raised here and I don't bitch
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FruitOfLife said: I am so fucking sick of people getting hand outs!
How is me working for my money getting a hand out?

How is you talking about how "fucking sick" you are of "people getting hand outs" not bitching?
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
#23684919 - 09/27/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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One statement constitutes bitching?
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods] 2
#23684921 - 09/27/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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PeyoteZen said: What if those black slave owners have great grand children of mixed race... do we tax the lighter skinned ones more than the darker skinned ones?
And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
I've got records on my lineage (both through family records one of my aunts has compiled as well as from Ancestry.com and public records) Our line originally immigrated from Scotland and elsewhere since the 1600's, settling the Atlantic Coast and Canada. And not a single one of my great great grandparents ever owned a single slave.
Why are you obsessed with the slave owners? This has nothing to do with their decendants. This has to with the decendants of slaves.
In 1860, 155 years ago, over 80% of black people in the United States were slaves. Millions of people who were owned as property instead of acquiring property and wealth. That is a huge disadvantage that has echoed down through the generations.
Read my lips. I don't owe anyone shit.
What's next? Do the Egyptians owe reparations to the Jews?
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] 1
#23684922 - 09/27/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23684926 - 09/27/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Do the Egyptians owe reparations to the Jews?
I think, after Passover, they're pretty much even.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23684927 - 09/27/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I agree that some reparations would be appropriate.
should we pay it to the slaves?
Don't you think we ought to focus on freeing them first?
sure... you get the shovels
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23684929 - 09/27/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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And some shears
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil] 3
#23684930 - 09/27/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'd probably do it as a tax break for descendants of slaves. Allowing them to keep more of the money they earn would offset the reduction in earning power caused by historical disadvantage.
Pay for it by eliminating tax deductions for having children
why not make the decendents of the slave owners pay for it and not punish me for someone elses shit
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23684934 - 09/27/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm glad Pris gets it
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23684944 - 09/27/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'd probably do it as a tax break for descendants of slaves. Allowing them to keep more of the money they earn would offset the reduction in earning power caused by historical disadvantage.
Pay for it by eliminating tax deductions for having children
why not make the decendents of the slave owners pay for it and not punish me for someone elses shit
You know that scene in American History X where his dad warns him about "Nigger Bullshit"?
Well this is kind of like that except it's more aptly called "Lawyer Bullshit". Or "Government Bullshit". Same difference really.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23684961 - 09/27/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said:
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PeyoteZen said: What if those black slave owners have great grand children of mixed race... do we tax the lighter skinned ones more than the darker skinned ones?
And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
I've got records on my lineage (both through family records one of my aunts has compiled as well as from Ancestry.com and public records) Our line originally immigrated from Scotland and elsewhere since the 1600's, settling the Atlantic Coast and Canada. And not a single one of my great great grandparents ever owned a single slave.
Why are you obsessed with the slave owners? This has nothing to do with their decendants. This has to with the decendants of slaves.
In 1860, 155 years ago, over 80% of black people in the United States were slaves. Millions of people who were owned as property instead of acquiring property and wealth. That is a huge disadvantage that has echoed down through the generations.
Read my lips. I don't owe anyone shit.
You live in a country whose wealth was built, in part, on the backs of slave labor. While you have no personal responsibility for this injustice, you benefit from it simply by living in this country. If you don't like it, you can also go back to where you came from. You and fishoil can share a cab.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23684964 - 09/27/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
Is this a serious question lol
Anyway this new hypothetical law will probably result in something similar to Native American retributions... where you have to prove you're at least 50% Native American or something, and then you get some benefits like free education or cheaper housing from it.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23684970 - 09/27/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
Is this a serious question lol
It's meant to provoke thought and bust the cognitive rut of anyone who seriously believes in reparations as being some kind of clear cut solution.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23684974 - 09/27/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When the fuck have corpses or dead people or non-existing ever been taxed? That question didn't provoke thought, it was an idiotic notion.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Crystal G]
#23684996 - 09/27/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're picking bones over nothing. Go back and read the previous posts and contextual clues leading up to that particular line, because you clearly didn't pick up on the implication it was intended to convey.
Daft as always, CryptKeeperG.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23685042 - 09/28/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
#23685105 - 09/28/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?
Is this a serious question lol
It's meant to provoke thought and bust the cognitive rut of anyone who seriously believes in reparations as being some kind of clear cut solution.
Again, this has nothing to do with decendants of slave owners. Nobody is suggesting you take money from people based on the actions of their ancestors. That's a ridiculous strawman and punishment by "corruption of blood" is a concept that does not exist in our legal system.
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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Astral Pain]
#23685106 - 09/28/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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