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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Astral Pain]
    #23684778 - 09/27/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods] * 4
    #23684790 - 09/27/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The decendants of plantation owners have inherited wealth that was built for multiple generations



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Family wealth Is probably the most consequential factor in success of subsequent generations.




Only 1.6% of the U.S. population owned slaves during the peak of slavery in America.

In 1860, 3,000 blacks owned nearly 20,000 black slaves.

Are we also going to track down the lineage of those 3,000 black slave owners and tax their black descendants as well? It's only fair.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23684800 - 09/27/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
    #23684804 - 09/27/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Systematic discrimination against blacks in education, housing, in obtaining loans, and all manners of life has kept black people as an underclass in the inner cities for the last century by and large that was not experienced by other groups of people, certainly not by whites.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
    #23684818 - 09/27/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never said anything about the race of the slave owners. That is immaterial to this debate. This is about the slaves and whether anything is owed to their decendants. This isn't inherently even a racial debate, it just seems that way because legal slaves in the US were almost entirely black.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods]
    #23684839 - 09/27/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What if those black slave owners have great grand children of mixed race... do we tax the lighter skinned ones more than the darker skinned ones?

And what if they don't have any great grandchildren and don't have a surviving family line? Do we tax a 200 year old corpse instead? Or do we just move on down the list and pick a random white guy to tax?

I've got records on my lineage (both through family records one of my aunts has compiled as well as from Ancestry.com and public records) Our line originally immigrated from Scotland and elsewhere since the 1600's, settling the Atlantic Coast and Canada. And not a single one of my great great grandparents ever owned a single slave.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #23684840 - 09/27/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Systematic discrimination against blacks in education, housing, in obtaining loans, and all manners of life has kept black people as an underclass in the inner cities for the last century by and large that was not experienced by other groups of people, certainly not by whites.



No one stopped the black people from getting on a boat back to Africa. They chose to stay here.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #23684848 - 09/27/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's stupid.  They were born here.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #23684859 - 09/27/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's stupid.  They were born here.



And if they don't like it here or the way they are "treated", then they have the option to leave.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] * 1
    #23684865 - 09/27/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's how you think a constitutional republic should work?  If so, your opinion in this discussion, or any discussion, is virtually worthless.



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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #23684872 - 09/27/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's stupid.  They were born here.



And if they don't like it here or the way they are "treated", then they have the option to leave.



If you don't like it, you can go back to wherever you came from as well.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23684873 - 09/27/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I know what I"m talking about, I'm an attorney


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] * 1
    #23684876 - 09/27/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A poor one, clearly.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #23684878 - 09/27/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There are ways to fix our problems, but this isn't it.

Reparations is a stupid ass idea (at least in the form it's being proposed currently)

We need a modern-day translation of '40 acres and a mule'.

Teach a man to fish, the only handout being the fishing pole itself.

This money dump freebie strategy is bound to be a bust.

I know this is just a parody, but Chappelle's Show kinda nailed it with this sketch.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods]
    #23684880 - 09/27/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's stupid.  They were born here.



And if they don't like it here or the way they are "treated", then they have the option to leave.



If you don't like it, you can go back to wherever you came from as well.



Born and raised here and I don't bitch


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Great Scott]
    #23684883 - 09/27/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd probably do it as a tax break for descendants of slaves.  Allowing them to keep more of the money they earn would offset the reduction in earning power caused by historical disadvantage.

Pay for it by eliminating tax deductions for having children




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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23684887 - 09/27/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd probably do it as a tax break for descendants of slaves.  Allowing them to keep more of the money they earn would offset the reduction in earning power caused by historical disadvantage.

Pay for it by eliminating tax deductions for having children






I would agree with a concept like this.


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: koods]
    #23684892 - 09/27/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah everyone lets give back to the blacks now and all the people with divorced parents and all the little orphans. It's like what little we have will be given away to people that can't pony up the dough


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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: FruitOfLife] * 2
    #23684895 - 09/27/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Born and raised here and I don't bitch



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I am so fucking sick of people getting hand outs!




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Re: U.S. owes black people reparations for a history of ‘racial terrorism’ [Re: Enlil]
    #23684901 - 09/27/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Born and raised here and I don't bitch



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I am so fucking sick of people getting hand outs!






How is me working for my money getting a hand out?


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