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viktor
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When was the last time you admitted you were wrong?
#23684627 - 09/27/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When was the last time you knew that you fucked up?
When was the last time that you were forced to set your ego aside and admit that you had made a mistake? That you had screwed up, and made things worse?
I'm not talking about accidents.
I'm talking about beating down one's own ego and making it concede that you were less than perfect and, in fact, were to blame for something.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor]
#23684888 - 09/27/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do not incline my heart to any evil thing, To practice deeds of wickedness With men who do iniquity; And do not let me eat of their delicacies. 5Let the righteous smite me in kindness and reprove me; It is oil upon the head; Do not let my head refuse it, For still my prayer is against their wicked deeds.
A wise man will hear and increase in learning, And a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel, 6To understand a proverb and a figure, The words of the wise and their riddles. 7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; Fools despise wisdom and instruction
When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man, The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.
7He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself, And he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself. 8Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you, Reprove a wise man and he will love you
Edited by Leviticus969 (09/27/16 10:53 PM)
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ballsalsa
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor]
#23684897 - 09/27/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: When was the last time you knew that you fucked up?
When was the last time that you were forced to set your ego aside and admit that you had made a mistake? That you had screwed up, and made things worse?
I'm not talking about accidents.
I'm talking about beating down one's own ego and making it concede that you were less than perfect and, in fact, were to blame for something.
just now. thanks. jerk.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: ballsalsa]
#23685125 - 09/28/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not in ages.

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srs though, part of self-reliance is juggling being always right with accepting new perspectives.
A key to life's higher planes of consciousness is self-reliance.
It's all an intellectual, spiritual challenge.
Culture is the great oppressor, as it stands today.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor] 1
#23685451 - 09/28/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: When was the last time you knew that you fucked up?
When was the last time that you were forced to set your ego aside and admit that you had made a mistake? That you had screwed up, and made things worse?
I'm not talking about accidents.
I'm talking about beating down one's own ego and making it concede that you were less than perfect and, in fact, were to blame for something.
The morning after I'd taken 2 tabs of LSD, I hadn't slept and I was still at a friends house on the far North side of my city. At about 7am I tried to see if I could walk my way to a train station but I was in a rural forest and had been dropped off the night before.
I realised I was wrong in that I didn't have to rely on myself to walk home because I was offered a ride for later in the morning.
It was a nice morning because I got to stand next to a river while the sun was rising and steam was drifting up from the stream.
I was also wrong that night whilst I was tripping because halfway through it I thought someone had taken my bag and was convinced I shouldn't trust people when I had actually placed my bag behind a couch earlier on.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor]
#23685457 - 09/28/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been doing this often.
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Edited by yeah (09/28/16 05:31 AM)
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor] 2
#23685531 - 09/28/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: When was the last time you knew that you fucked up?
When was the last time that you were forced to set your ego aside and admit that you had made a mistake? That you had screwed up, and made things worse?
I'm not talking about accidents.
I'm talking about beating down one's own ego and making it concede that you were less than perfect and, in fact, were to blame for something.
Daily. But I don't beat anything up or down. That's because my ego doesn't demand I always be right in order to exist.
Maybe it's a healthier ego in some ways?
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: Kickle]
#23685668 - 09/28/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kickle said: Daily.
That was the word that was in my head before I even got to your post Kickle.
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Kickle said: But I don't beat anything up or down.
And I think having learned to avoid this all too common pitfall of being human is what's made it easier. For most of my life I was the ultimate punisher and taskmaster towards myself. Since becoming inwardly kind and loving what's bad about being wrong? Fuck, as long as my mistake causes no other suffering, I laugh about it often.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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viktor
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23685715 - 09/28/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
And I think having learned to avoid this all too common pitfall of being human is what's made it easier. For most of my life I was the ultimate punisher and taskmaster towards myself. Since becoming inwardly kind and loving what's bad about being wrong? Fuck, as long as my mistake causes no other suffering, I laugh about it often.
Probably the biggest and best permanent psychological change that I got as a consequence of immense cannabis use was to lose the perfectionism that had been a part of my psyche since I was very young.
Being a perfectionist is just about a guarantee of unhappiness.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor] 1
#23685904 - 09/28/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The vast majority of the time I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong (to myself or others), and moreover, I often laugh at myself when I am. It's the way to be.
-------------------- Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici
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viktor
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23686199 - 09/28/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: The vast majority of the time I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong (to myself or others), and moreover, I often laugh at myself when I am. It's the way to be.
OK, since you're obviously incredibly enlightened, what about the times you fail to admit you're wrong, and only realise it later?
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor] 1
#23686357 - 09/28/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude, I don't mean to be snooty, and furthermore I never said I don't find myself wrong after the fact. Same reaction. Many years ago I told myself always to be honest with myself, and I've done a pretty good job of following through. I never meant to insinuate that I am enlightened.
If I'm wrong about something and find out later, I still try to be honest with myself. Often I will seek out the people involved and confess my error, for closure.
What's the right answer?
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: viktor]
#23686965 - 09/28/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To say you've never been wrong before is like saying you've never fallen as a kid trying to learn how to walk.
Surely, no one likes to fall, and no one likes to accept the fact that they fell in front of a big audience. It's embarrassing.
But there's nothing more annoying to me then someone who fell in front of everyone, I mean, everyone saw it with their own eyes. But the person who falls just gets right back up and denys the fact that they fell. Acted like nothing ever happened. That denial is a lie. It's false. When you choose to lie and not humble yourself down to admit you were wrong you choose a life of lies and denial. You are in fact, living on the wrong path and lying to yourself will certainly not reveal the fact that you're wrong.
To admit that you fell, is to choose truth. The truth hurts but it can set you free. When we accept the truth about ourselves no matter how much it hurts, that's when we can build upon ourselves to go towards the right direction. The direction of truth.
This world is constantly throwing lies at you to dissuade you from the truth. Why? It's all a game. it's just fun. You're living in a simulation and the objective is to beat it. Only the righteous is worthy of "the truth" and all it has to offer.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: Leviticus969]
#23687552 - 09/28/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i never have a problem admitting when i'm wrong, when all ratiocination has been considered. last time: probably too long to recount. but recently i almost broached the subject of my being wrong, but only the thing is, i never really found that i was wrong, just confused. trade economics/government financing bafflegab does tend to confuse me, as it's complex, and haven't given enough to time to study the ins-and-outs, and/or a very respectable source of information.
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Re: When was the last time you admitted you were wrong? [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23688893 - 09/28/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: What's the right answer?
Beats me, I just realised that I knew a few people who could rationalise literally anything they did to another person if it stopped them from feeling bad about it.
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