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Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics'
    #23682766 - 09/27/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://dailynorthwestern.com/2016/09/21/campus/schapiro-to-freshmen-people-criticizing-safe-spaces-drives-me-nuts/

Northwestern "University President Morton Schapiro blasted critics of safe spaces and triggers warnings on college campuses"

"Calling people who deny the existence of microaggressions 'idiots'"

"Schapiro also criticized those who 'conflate' the use of trigger warnings with undermining the First Amendment...those people are lunatics"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-25/youre-idiot-lunatic-if-you-question-safe-spaces-or-microaggression-president-northwe

I feel "triggered' because I have been called an 'idiot' and a 'lunatic'.

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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman] * 4
    #23682772 - 09/27/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman]
    #23682780 - 09/27/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Microaggresions don't exist bc theyre purely subjective. I could ask a black chick where her parents are from out of genuine curiousity and she could interpret that as me implying they are straight outta Africa and go on the defense.

really wish shroomery had a safe space, I could really use one. feeling pretty triggered right now:frown:


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman] * 3
    #23682880 - 09/27/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I mean I'm not gonna argue the 2nd quote. Providing a trigger warning isn't anti first amendment in any way. Though I do think it's stupid to need a trigger warning about the holocaust or lynching. Just knowing the topic IS the trigger warning. But I suppose the context of "trigger" really is as stupid as lots of people say it is. That's incredibly depressing if it actually means "this might offend or upset you." that. Is. Not. Triggering.

The term trigger warning was meant to warn people who have mental illness in association with abuse or trauma or those with PTSD or flashbacks. Real disturbing shit that could cause them to freak the fuck out and possibly hurt themselves or someone else. It is meant to warn about in depth material for people who may have an uncontrollable reaction due to panic and flashbacks. It is called triggered because it triggers a reaction in association with past trauma. It's not meant for idiots who have no impulse control or emotional maturity.


But I digress isn't it the opposite of PC to call people lunatics and idiots?


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23682918 - 09/27/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Microaggression. Another new and exciting term


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23682919 - 09/27/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
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I mean I'm not gonna argue the 2nd quote. Providing a trigger warning isn't anti first amendment in any way. Though I do think it's stupid to need a trigger warning about the holocaust or lynching. Just knowing the topic IS the trigger warning. But I suppose the context of "trigger" really is as stupid as lots of people say it is. That's incredibly depressing if it actually means "this might offend or upset you." that. Is. Not. Triggering.

The term trigger warning was meant to warn people who have mental illness in association with abuse or trauma or those with PTSD or flashbacks. Real disturbing shit that could cause them to freak the fuck out and possibly hurt themselves or someone else. It is meant to warn about in depth material for people who may have an uncontrollable reaction due to panic and flashbacks. It is called triggered because it triggers a reaction in association with past trauma. It's not meant for idiots who have no impulse control or emotional maturity.


But I digress isn't it the opposite of PC to call people lunatics and idiots?




"isn't it the opposite of PC to call people lunatics and idiots

Not at all, if you disagree with the PC rule book you will be called all sorts of horrible names, that is part of the course.  Does that make the PC movement full of hypocrisy?  Yes it does, that's why it's a failed ideology.


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    #23683089 - 09/27/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman]
    #23683111 - 09/27/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i don't really see their being a "PC crowd", i think that's more just the "SJW crowd", the insular SJW generation.

being PC is fine. it's got a lot of flak now, but it's actually fine to not go around using no censor to your language...like you don't talk about about cocks and ass with say your Mom...same difference. only your not talking about niggers* or kikes* while walking through a a group of blacks* and jews*.

basically, it is a way to avoid causing flak from people, towards politicians, true...is it the same thing now? no. now there is a bigger demographic of people, these people don't need to hear your thoughts on niggers...no, no one does...not a single person needs or really wants to hear it. i mean look...i'm not censoring myself. is it so pleasant? no. it isn't. i could make it worse...i used to find a reason to be anti-PC...i was fucking 24 years old...now i'm 27...and i was being fucking retarded. i still don't censor myself, but i do not consider being anti-PC very fruitful, as it's idiotic.

no one needs be going around like "trans-dicked crackas, need to get some mental help!"

i mean seriously, fuck that shit. i can find many things funny...i can even find my bullshit now pretty funny, yum. but i do not think that being inconsiderate in RL, discourteous, assholeish, yeesh, i mean, how can anyone WANT that?





















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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23684120 - 09/27/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

qman said:
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i don't really see their being a "PC crowd", i think that's more just the "SJW crowd", the insular SJW generation.

being PC is fine. it's got a lot of flak now, but it's actually fine to not go around using no censor to your language...like you don't talk about about cocks and ass with say your Mom...same difference. only your not talking about niggers* or kikes* while walking through a a group of blacks* and jews*.

basically, it is a way to avoid causing flak from people, towards politicians, true...is it the same thing now? no. now there is a bigger demographic of people, these people don't need to hear your thoughts on niggers...no, no one does...not a single person needs or really wants to hear it. i mean look...i'm not censoring myself. is it so pleasant? no. it isn't. i could make it worse...i used to find a reason to be anti-PC...i was fucking 24 years old...now i'm 27...and i was being fucking retarded. i still don't censor myself, but i do not consider being anti-PC very fruitful, as it's idiotic.

no one needs be going around like "trans-dicked crackas, need to get some mental help!"

i mean seriously, fuck that shit. i can find many things funny...i can even find my bullshit now pretty funny, yum. but i do not think that being inconsiderate in RL, discourteous, assholeish, yeesh, i mean, how can anyone WANT




"being PC is fine"

No it's not, restricting speech and ideas is never fine. Being polite and respectful has NOTHING to do with PC, why are you confusing the two? :facepalm:


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: yourboybob]
    #23684139 - 09/27/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yourboybob said:
Microaggresions don't exist bc theyre purely subjective. I could ask a black chick where her parents are from out of genuine curiousity and she could interpret that as me implying they are straight outta Africa and go on the defense.




No. Try again. Or don't. You know what? Don't.

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really wish shroomery had a safe space, I could really use one. feeling pretty triggered right now:(




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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman]
    #23684301 - 09/27/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They're right though, their professor said so and she has a masters in gender studies... what qualifications do you have on the subject?

So basically teh first amendment applies to everything but trivial everyday stuff that might offend liberal indoctrinated upper middle class college kids that have never experienced any sort of hardship.  Now I could understand if it was in group therapy for victims of (actual) rape, injured veterans, or something of the sort but these SJW's are ridiculous. To them a hula dancer bobble head on someone's dash is racist. Sorry you pussies but the real world is not filled with safe spaces and people that care about your feelings... the sooner you realize that and adjust the better. No one is obligated to tip toe around your professional victim mindset.


Edited by luvdemboomers (09/27/16 07:35 PM)


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23684321 - 09/27/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: falsereality]
    #23684333 - 09/27/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23684401 - 09/27/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The idea of "safe spaces" is nothing new.

What's new/ongoing is the desegregation of these spaces to include representational proportions of historically marginalized classes of people.

Another thing that's new is this idea that the first amendment protects your right to act like a /b/tard in public.


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23684405 - 09/27/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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The idea of "safe spaces" is nothing new.

What's new/ongoing is the desegregation of these spaces to include representational proportions of historically marginalized classes of people.

Another thing that's new is this idea that the first amendment protects your right to act like a /b/tard in public.




Where's my safe space? I need protection from BLM.


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23684437 - 09/27/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

falsereality said:
Quote:

Sophistic Radiance said:
The idea of "safe spaces" is nothing new.

What's new/ongoing is the desegregation of these spaces to include representational proportions of historically marginalized classes of people.

Another thing that's new is this idea that the first amendment protects your right to act like a /b/tard in public.




Where's my safe space? I need protection from BLM.




Apparently idiots and lunatics aren't entitled to "safe spaces".  :lol:


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman]
    #23684440 - 09/27/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Calling me an idiot and lunatic is a microaggression and triggers me. to laugh


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: qman]
    #23684467 - 09/27/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For a university, yeah it is a pretty asinine request. A university is already one of the safest places to be in this world, what on earth do you need protection from at a college?

A "safe space" at a domestic violence shelter, that makes complete and total sense to me. A "safe space" at an LGBT resource center, that makes complete and total sense. A "safe space" in a university which is already one of the most tolerant and understanding and low-crime places in this world, what is its purpose? The entire university is already a safe space, secluded in its own bubble from the rest of the world.


Edited by Crystal G (09/27/16 08:42 PM)


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23684469 - 09/27/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People that pull out handguns during sex. That's pretty much my only fear on a college campus.


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Re: Northwestern U. Pres. Calls People Who Question 'Safe Spaces' or 'Microaggression' to be 'Lunatics' [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23684497 - 09/27/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
...

I mean I'm not gonna argue the 2nd quote. Providing a trigger warning isn't anti first amendment in any way. Though I do think it's stupid to need a trigger warning about the holocaust or lynching. Just knowing the topic IS the trigger warning. But I suppose the context of "trigger" really is as stupid as lots of people say it is. That's incredibly depressing if it actually means "this might offend or upset you." that. Is. Not. Triggering.

The term trigger warning was meant to warn people who have mental illness in association with abuse or trauma or those with PTSD or flashbacks. Real disturbing shit that could cause them to freak the fuck out and possibly hurt themselves or someone else. It is meant to warn about in depth material for people who may have an uncontrollable reaction due to panic and flashbacks. It is called triggered because it triggers a reaction in association with past trauma. It's not meant for idiots who have no impulse control or emotional maturity.


But I digress isn't it the opposite of PC to call people lunatics and idiots?




It's interesting, because the original "trigger warning" was used to help prevent victims of trauma from reading or witnessing something that may induce flashbacks of what they experienced. So if there was a movie with a rape in it, or details about a gory battle in Afghanistan in a book or something, that's when the original "trigger warning" was used. It was used to help prevent veterans or rape and abuse victims and other people with PTSD from experiencing flashbacks.

I was originally behind this concept when it first came out, but now it's used for whenever anybody might get offended or get their feelings remotely hurt. They are using this phrase so often that it's used even before classes about certain subjects, or before school orientation. If you use it that often, then the concept of the phrase "trigger warning" loses its meaning, if it ends up literally being used before every single thing and subject, then it's practically the same thing as not using any warning at all.

And seriously, why is this phrase even used for when people learn about the Holocaust at all? Has anybody ever experienced the Holocaust, or anything remotely similar to it? No, I seriously doubt it. Somehow children learn about the Holocaust without being triggered, I wonder how that is.


Edited by Crystal G (09/27/16 09:07 PM)


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