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InvisibleSwami
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Re: The Revolution [Re: blink]
    #2368124 - 02/22/04 01:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Can we drink koolaide at the meetings? j/k

If you want to, but only the yukky Grape Flavor and we all have to get one of those funny haircuts to symbolize unity.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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OfflineSpecialEd
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368126 - 02/22/04 01:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

A song comes to mind

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are erased, by-the-bye
And the partying on the left
Is now partying on the right
And their beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Git up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


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Invisiblehevvy_psi
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368128 - 02/22/04 01:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I WON'T GET A HAIRCUT!!! :mad:


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egocentrism is bangin on the door
self-destructive selflessness
seeps out from the core
alone - eyes closed - an empty room
i'm curled on the floor
choose nothing, thus deciding
all the nothing i've in store.

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OfflineSnape
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Re: The Revolution [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2368151 - 02/22/04 01:54 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

That's "Won't get fooled again" by The Who

Right?


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I'm floating in the sea of stars,
I'm drifting away from the shore
I will be lost in the dream when the dark days come
But I will make the time run backwards and
I'll make the stars shine again

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Invisiblehevvy_psi
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Snape]
    #2368153 - 02/22/04 01:55 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yes. correct.


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egocentrism is bangin on the door
self-destructive selflessness
seeps out from the core
alone - eyes closed - an empty room
i'm curled on the floor
choose nothing, thus deciding
all the nothing i've in store.

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InvisibleSwami
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Re: The Revolution [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2368167 - 02/22/04 01:58 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

*slap slap* Try to stay focused, people! BTW I sent out for pizza to help in our brainstorming.


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OfflineSquatting_Otter
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368191 - 02/22/04 02:03 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm skeptical about what you guys are going to accomplish. Lots of enthusiasm, but if you guys move forward with this at all I'll be impressed. I would think you guys need some well-educated highly intelligent people to give this thing momentum. It'll be interesting to see if you guys just hang around being idealistic or if you actually manage to make some change.

Start reading!

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368209 - 02/22/04 02:09 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

If you want to start a revolution, get enough people to stop paying their taxes and see which government programs loose funding first. When the money for Welfare starts dwindling, then you'll see some social change.


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In a state of anarchy every individual is their own kingdom.

Thou art God (but so am i :wink:)

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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368252 - 02/22/04 02:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You are right swami, and thats why i posted my first response. It is important to bring people together, create a new global culture. Im not telling people to deny the past, but to embrace the future. But given the way the world is now, there is no way to prepose such an idea to the world. They first must see that in fact, a better world could be accomplished.

Through bringing people together, you could achieve somethign that has not happened since the conception of our people. Whether we were all together at one time is a scientific dispute, but we do know that our people have been fighting one another for thousands of years.

They have been fighting for control of land, for control of a system they thought was best. But in order to save it, they fought against anyone else.

How do you build a system that is resistance to tyranny?

Maybe its in what Swami just said, maturity. When will the masses learn to think for themselves instead of listening to what the media provides for them to think? What People tell them whats the best thing to wear... What houses to live in?

How can you teach people self governance?

Another problem we face as finding this global community of peace and harmony, is the necessary physical infrastructure to accomodate such a change.

This is where i have decided i want to physically work.

A new architecture, designed to bring people socially together. Some building i have "seen", would evoke such harmony... and beauty.

Encourage people to wake up, and really take a cold hard look at themselves, their actions, and the world they live in. And see if the things that are going on, should still be going on.

I think this community... the people who have posted here care so much about such a thing... but those people who dont have anything to eat, or who are on a battlefield dont have the oppurunity to experience such a thing. So i think its important to keep in mind who and how you would get such a message or idea to so many people.


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What?

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InvisibleEffedS
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368279 - 02/22/04 02:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The revolution has already begun, it starts in the mind of you and I.
It is building on its own, and over time it will take shape without even trying.
I really like this post, because it shows that it is happening.  :laugh:
I support you fully my brethren.

May the Psychedelic Alliance form and reign supreme.  :thumbup:

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OfflineFrog
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368298 - 02/22/04 02:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I can handle the legal aspects!! Let's go!!


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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OfflineFrog
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368302 - 02/22/04 02:36 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
*slap slap* Try to stay focused, people! BTW I sent out for pizza to help in our brainstorming.




Make mine sushi and champagne, please.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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OfflinespasticSofa
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368322 - 02/22/04 02:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I admit, I'm skeptical about all of this. Your society is utopian, but not realistic. People will continue to put their personal interestes first, as they have since the beginning of time.

Leaders are required for any functional country/group/assembly of people. With Leadership comes power and ego. People are naturally drawn to these, thus creating competition for the position. With competition comes treachery and lies. I see no way around it on the scale that you strive to achieve.


But If there's any time for a revolution, it's now. Bush has created massive unrest within the country, especially with the youth. Not since Vietnam has there been such public outcry. Kids are becoming interest in politics and world events because they want reform. You have millions upon millions of upset people that are looking for a revolution. Give it to them.

Just don't go the way of the hippies. While their movement promoted peace, love, and unity, their actions more often promoted self-gratification and excess. What good they could have done was clouded over with drugs and sex. Don't sway from your initial intentions.

I would also suggest you avoid a cult-like image. You'll need media attention if you want to get anywhere, but it needs to be positive. If everyone thinks you're about to drink the punch, they'll think you're whackos. On that note, also avoid an image like PETA's or even Green Peace's. If your push is too extreme, you'll alienate the majority.

Keep the dream alive and push things forward. Even if you fall short of uniting the entire world, you could unite a smaller group that really could make a difference, at least for each other and what they touch.

peace,
Will


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Invisiblehevvy_psi
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Re: The Revolution [Re: spasticSofa]
    #2368337 - 02/22/04 02:45 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

well said.


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egocentrism is bangin on the door
self-destructive selflessness
seeps out from the core
alone - eyes closed - an empty room
i'm curled on the floor
choose nothing, thus deciding
all the nothing i've in store.

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Offlineangryjslice
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368379 - 02/22/04 02:57 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

i cant offer too much, except my opinions and my ability to find lots of open minded people. i wish student was still a member of these boards, he's been waiting for this for a long time. ill give him a call tonight.

we need a plan. goals are good, followed by implementation of these goals. virtual country/allegiance is not a bad idea. non-geographical based citizinship to a recognized 'virtual country', that would key i think.

but then the problem arises of how the governments of countries we physically reside in would be allowed to regulate us as partial citizens.

media attention is easy to get. just gotta ask them, or do something they cant ignore.

~JSlice~


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OfflineDeiymiyan
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368384 - 02/22/04 02:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You wish for a revolution?


Alright..


So it begins, and goes to as far as you want to take it.


I recommend, though, that you hold temporarily with the unleashing of the plan.


Many are not ready.


Like well written song, you must wait until it is time to play the part.



I fully support the stage of development at present: The Plan.


:thumbup:


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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..


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OfflineDestruKtiKon
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368521 - 02/22/04 03:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm definatly all for it, but, what is to be done??


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Invisiblequestion_for_joo
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2368534 - 02/22/04 03:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

These threads always remind me of Donald Pleasance's character in THX-1138 when he's in jail preaching.  :grin:


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OfflineDeiymiyan
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368535 - 02/22/04 03:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I would prefer a fresh, from-the-ground-up start.

A revolution tends to go against the existing flow.

Once the existing building blocks are torn, they will need to be re-arranged; the blocks themselves will not be new, their new form, however, will be of benefit.






Concerning harmony with the environment..


I have studied some environmental ethics in the past. I have come accross two which I believe should be amalgamated. Seperately, I find them to be two halves of a larger whole.


I propose a union of two environmental concepts: those of Deep Ecology and those of Ecofeminism.


The amalgamation can be 'tweeked' to go with the times by having an evolving property to support the changes that are to come.





I also agree that some sort of funding will become a necessary asset. I do not say this to be materialistic; but in order to fully involve one's self, family must be fully looked after. That is the way of the world that we live in at present.

If a different system is implemented in the future, that is fine.. However, it will need to integrate itself into the existing structure in order to survive its infancy.


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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Frog]
    #2368539 - 02/22/04 03:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I can handle the legal aspects!! Let's go!!

As long as I can be in charge of the psycho-sexual aspects. BTW would a harem (or hareem) be legal under the new law?


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