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Offlineyourboybob
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**LIVE**Official Presidential Debate Thread**LIVE**
    #23680813 - 09/26/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fifteen minutes to go. I'm hoping Hillary has a grand mal seizure on stage and that Trump trolls everyone as always.

This should be good. :popcorn:  Anyone else watching?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680817 - 09/26/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am excited!
I hope Hilary doesn't have a seizure.
I hope things go as I expect and Trump embarrasses himself in front of 100 million people.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680820 - 09/26/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh shit, post the results when they come up, I can't wait for a good laugh.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23680834 - 09/26/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just want Hillary to have a mental breakdown. I could care less about Trump. I hate 'em both but it's just funny to see the victory slipping right out from under her just like in '08


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680843 - 09/26/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

8:47

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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23680852 - 09/26/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)


:greenthumb: . . . :peace:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #23680857 - 09/26/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm excited for this.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK]
    #23680877 - 09/26/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Results in?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23680882 - 09/26/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Elon Musk for Pres.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23680886 - 09/26/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's just beginning around now. No results for anything yet. You can watch a live stream of it.



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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23680899 - 09/26/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck, I couldn't handle even 15 seconds of that absolute tripe. Fucking offensive to my ears it was.

God I hate politicians.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23680908 - 09/26/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thread title should be changed to say it's live now.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Anahata]
    #23680909 - 09/26/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Man this whole thing is already ridiculous.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK]
    #23680918 - 09/26/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How is it ridiculous already?
The part about Trump wanting to lower taxes from 35% to 15% for companies?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23680922 - 09/26/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Thread title should be changed to say it's live now.




done


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob] * 3
    #23680938 - 09/26/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680940 - 09/26/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What about employing 10% of the population with a felony?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680941 - 09/26/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just looked for this thread and somehow missed it :lol:

Listening to them talking sounds like a sitcom or something, maybe I am just really stoned...


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680943 - 09/26/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've only tuned into this to see if Trump calls her a cunt or a bitch on live TV.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23680944 - 09/26/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"back to the question Trump"

Even Ford Motor Company said we as a business are expanding to Mexico not packing up and leaving, Trump should stay out of our business.

Trump "investing in solar panel was a disaster"


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23680947 - 09/26/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck, I couldn't handle even 15 seconds of that absolute tripe. Fucking offensive to my ears it was.

God I hate politicians.




Shits fucking stupid.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23680951 - 09/26/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

theyre really laying into each other now lol. funny shit


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: goldcaphunter] * 2
    #23680955 - 09/26/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its like watching two little kids trying to blame each other for some misdeed while simultaneously taking credit for chores :rofldrunk:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23680958 - 09/26/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23680959 - 09/26/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.




Its like watching actors act then trying to decide if they are good people or not based on solely that :lol:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob] * 1
    #23680960 - 09/26/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Man i hate these two way more than I previously thought after seeing their ugly mugs splitting my big screen.  I mean fucking hate with a passion.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23680964 - 09/26/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump: "no wonder you've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life":rofl:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23680969 - 09/26/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm dying laughing watching them fight.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680970 - 09/26/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump - "They are leaving this country to get their money back" :confused:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23680973 - 09/26/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I feel like I'm watching trump is losing his shit.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK]
    #23680975 - 09/26/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

waiting for trump to lose his shit and tackle hill


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK]
    #23680977 - 09/26/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump can't compete with Hilary.
It's a no-contest.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680978 - 09/26/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Watching his mouth as he talks is hilarious... We need some gifs of his face...


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: TNK]
    #23680983 - 09/26/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is pretty sad. They can't even argue like adults.

Too bad nobody votes 3rd party. We need more options. I'll be voting Gary Johnson and hopefully he gets on the national debate the next time around. These two are making the whole country look bad.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #23680986 - 09/26/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.



What a load of fucking bollocks. MY LIFE is nothing being the way it is is NOTHING to do with the 'people in power'.

I feel very sorry for you if that's the view you take.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23680990 - 09/26/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Why not blame Hillary for everything?" -Trump

:rofl:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23680993 - 09/26/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump can't compete with Hilary.
It's a no-contest.




hill is gon a lose sorry


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: musiclover420]
    #23680995 - 09/26/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:chump:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23680998 - 09/26/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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:chump:




I want to see one that is a time lapse of his facial expressions sped up though, so you can see all the weird shit he does...


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23681002 - 09/26/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.



What a load of fucking bollocks. MY LIFE is nothing being the way it is is NOTHING to do with the 'people in power'.

I feel very sorry for you if that's the view you take.






Oh come on.
Do you smoke weed and/or use kratom and/or other drugs?
The president has major influence in making those illegal/legal.


That's just one thing.  There are a million more.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23681023 - 09/26/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

bragadocious/adjective
boastful or arrogant

Trump just used this word and I didn't believe it to be real but it is


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #23681024 - 09/26/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I couldn't handle more than a few seconds of it, it was like putting on a brain slug, on purpose. But I'll go back and check it out, I really do want to know what they have to say. It's just that in the first 5 seconds of listening to them I knew already that we're worlds apart in any distinct sense on how to approach humanity. It's a big showwwwww


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23681028 - 09/26/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.



What a load of fucking bollocks. MY LIFE is nothing being the way it is is NOTHING to do with the 'people in power'.

I feel very sorry for you if that's the view you take.





Are you serious? These politicians effect your life in almost every way. They approve drugs you take, teach you, make laws, build bridges and roads, and they have the power to take your country into war. I could go on and on


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23681034 - 09/26/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's a big showwwwww




Its a pretty interesting one to watch though :shrug: I want to see how it turns out becouse this could decide who wins.

Who else just watched Hillary put on her "serious face" to talk about race? :rofl2:

"This is my seriouuss voicee, I have to enunciate the last word of each sentenceeee, I am being super serial everyoneeeee"


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    #23681035 - 09/26/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Who's that stopping exactly? If you don't want them to influence your life then just don't let them.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23681036 - 09/26/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Oh come on.
Do you smoke weed and/or use kratom and/or other drugs?
The president has major influence in making those illegal/legal.


That's just one thing.  There are a million more.



Yes, I do. I partake of many substances. I don't recall anyone ever stopping me from doing so, only trying to, which is a lost battle anyway.

Care to try again? You say you have a million more things, please do.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #23681038 - 09/26/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.



What a load of fucking bollocks. MY LIFE is nothing being the way it is is NOTHING to do with the 'people in power'.

I feel very sorry for you if that's the view you take.






Oh come on.
Do you smoke weed and/or use kratom and/or other drugs?
The president has major influence in making those illegal/legal.


That's just one thing.  There are a million more.




exactly.

take alcohol prohibition for example. back in the days you could be sentenced to prison for life for moonlighting alcohol. if say that would effect your life.

some politicians realized they could make a shit load of cash off of it and legalized it, and now you can drink your merry heart into severe alcoholism freely.

point is, whether you like it or not, government and laws and those who implement them DO effect your life at least to some degree


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: musiclover420]
    #23681040 - 09/26/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23681042 - 09/26/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Streaming link: https://twitter.com/hashtag/debates?src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A780504782184255488

Drinking game:


Who's down?



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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23681044 - 09/26/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did anyone see the topic list, I seen jobs flowed by brain fart, then islam.

...oh race is 2nd


Man I know some are crying saying these are childish adults and all, but I looking forward to the topic of terror.


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    #23681045 - 09/26/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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bragadocious/adjective
boastful or arrogant

Trump just used this word and I didn't believe it to be real but it is




That's how he's run his campaign to date...100% adjectives, 0% substance.

PS...im not pro hillary.  I'm just anti both candidates.


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    #23681046 - 09/26/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
I think people who can't stand to listen to politicians, let alone presidential debates, are doing themself harm.

YOUR LIFE is the way it is based on the people in power.  I think it's foolish not to at least listen to them for a bit to see which one you want to vote for.



What a load of fucking bollocks. MY LIFE is nothing being the way it is is NOTHING to do with the 'people in power'.

I feel very sorry for you if that's the view you take.





Are you serious? These politicians effect your life in almost every way. They approve drugs you take, teach you, make laws, build bridges and roads, and they have the power to take your country into war. I could go on and on




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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23681048 - 09/26/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I feel bad for Trump.  In the movie Charlie Wilsons war they talk about rich people getting involved in politics.


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    #23681051 - 09/26/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Oh come on.
Do you smoke weed and/or use kratom and/or other drugs?
The president has major influence in making those illegal/legal.


That's just one thing.  There are a million more.



Yes, I do. I partake of many substances. I don't recall anyone ever stopping me from doing so, only trying to, which is a lost battle anyway.

Care to try again? You say you have a million more things, please do.




what about the loads of people who have been caught and prosecuted for it over the years? the ones who have received lengthy prison terms and mulitple felony charges?

would you say the laws implemented by politicians havent effected them in anyway?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23681054 - 09/26/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Chakra Shock said:
It's a big showwwwww



Ain't it just? A fucking grotesque one at that.

Quote:

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point is, whether you like it or not, government and laws and those who implement them DO effect your life at least to some degree



Bah. They affect the world around me, yes, but that is not MY world. I can take it or leave it as I see fit.


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    #23681057 - 09/26/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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would you say the laws implemented by politicians havent effected them in anyway?



I was never talking about them, I was talking about me. It's the only thing I have any authority over.


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    #23681063 - 09/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why are you trying so hard to play the part that the leaders of your country don't influence you? 
It makes no sense and is foolish.




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Quote:

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would you say the laws implemented by politicians havent effected them in anyway?



I was never talking about them, I was talking about me. It's the only thing I have any authority over.





Ohhhh so if your best friends are put in jail for life for smoking weed then you won't care because YOU aren't in jail?

I guess you don't like having friends so it's not a big deal.  I'm sorry man.


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    #23681066 - 09/26/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2:


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    #23681068 - 09/26/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Big ol' brain sucking slug show.
Sad, really, that these are the kinds of people who make it into roles of leadership, or attempted leadership.

Talkin' bout how to handle the race divide, he who shall not be named talks for minutes on end about "law and order" and "police". Ugh...


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    #23681070 - 09/26/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"So the plan is racial profiling?" I'm dying :laugh2:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23681079 - 09/26/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What concerns me more CS, are the posters above who seem to feel their lives are dictated by these so called 'leaders'.

I'm surprised to see that on the Shroomery, of all places. Mind you, then I read assumptions like this:

Quote:

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I guess you don't like having friends so it's not a big deal.  I'm sorry man.



And it all kinda makes sense really. Believing in politicians must be like making a sweeping assumption like the above.


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    #23681088 - 09/26/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's pretty shocking how limited trumps vocabulary is. Very very bad.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23681089 - 09/26/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why are you trying so hard to play the part that the leaders of your country don't influence you?



Because:

“You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”

I am also not the laws that are forced upon me, and not anything to do with those that make them.


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    #23681091 - 09/26/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

She said white people don't get the same punishment as blacks.  OK that pissed me off, so if I go out and shoot someone, because I'm white, I get a lesser sentence just because I'm white.  Bullshit! Complete bullshit!


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    #23681093 - 09/26/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What concerns me more CS, are the posters above who seem to feel their lives are dictated by these so called 'leaders'.





There is a big difference between that and admitting that they do effect our lives indirectly and directly...

I bet you would admit your life is "dictated" by those "leaders" to some extent if you ended up in jail like so many have...


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    #23681094 - 09/26/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think trump knows that veryvery isn't a word


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    #23681099 - 09/26/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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She said white people don't get the same punishment as blacks.  OK that pissed me off, so if I go out and shoot someone, because I'm white, I get a lesser sentence just because I'm white.  Bullshit! Complete bullshit!




It's not though. There is plenty of data out there showing that is exactly what happens.


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    #23681105 - 09/26/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What concerns me more CS, are the posters above who seem to feel their lives are dictated by these so called 'leaders'.

I'm surprised to see that on the Shroomery, of all places.









I didn't say the leaders of our country "dictate" our lives.  That's not even close.  I said that they have major influence.  To say the leaders of our country don't have at least major influence makes no sense because if that was true then why would we have leaders? 

You're surprised that not everyone on a magic mushroom forum thinks the same way?  I'm sorry to burst your bubble.


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    #23681106 - 09/26/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl: yeah, that's it, I tap out. I'll check this thread later to see who ended up with a black eye.

And yeah JSB, it's stifling and belittling to believe that the power lies in select individuals who 'run the show'. The only reason things work that way is because of that belief. If everyone took it upon themselves to live life to their fullest potential, using their inner self as a guide, and work together, then the model of a grand and superior political leader would be outdated in a day n a half.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: musiclover420]
    #23681107 - 09/26/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I bet you would admit your life is "dictated" by those "leaders" to some extent if you ended up in jail like so many have...



Seeing as I know so many who've done jail time, I doubt it. I'd do my bid, make some new friends, use the time as best I could, and move on, with new restrictions upon my movements about the world.

Just because it is what it is, don't mean I have to be dictated by it. My soul will shine bright regardless of how much shit they put on me. I already suffer from misanthropy, and the current politician, whoever they are, aint gonna change me. It's all an absolute fucking farce anyway.


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    #23681116 - 09/26/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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if that was true then why would we have leaders?



Because the majority of people are fucking morons that can't think for themselves.

Need proof? Look at the two people you've got to chose from this year.

Only in a world completely backwards and full of idiots could you end up with those two cunts on the podium tonight.


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    #23681121 - 09/26/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

where the fuck is Al Qaeda with their suicide bombers when you need them?


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    #23681127 - 09/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

By doing jail time you and your friends would be succumbing to the laws previous presidents dictated....

Even if you don't let those laws change you by living in the country those laws can and will still effect you.


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    #23681129 - 09/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just dropped the b word


Bernie.



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    #23681130 - 09/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

He was just endorsed by ICE? That should be investigated. It's illegal for federal employees to get involved in partisan politics in their official capacity


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    #23681131 - 09/26/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are taking this way too seriously.

:lahey:

Drink or smoke up and just enjoy.

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    #23681135 - 09/26/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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"Cybersecurity will be one of the biggest challenges the next president faces...." -Clinton :lol:



You gettin' ideas already FR?!? Hack those cunts man!


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    #23681142 - 09/26/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Snowden said Bin Laden is living with his kids and wives in the Bahamas under secrecy and on the Cia payroll. He said he is shaved and in normal clothing and not part of the program anymore.


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    #23681148 - 09/26/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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"Cybersecurity will be one of the biggest challenges the next president faces...." -Clinton :lol:



You gettin' ideas already FR?!? Hack those cunts man!




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    #23681157 - 09/26/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Because the majority of people are fucking morons that can't think for themselves.






You must be feeling warm and cozy with that big blanket statement.


I'm beginning to lose interest in this conversation with you.
You skew my words to fit your agenda, such as the "dictator" comment, because you can't say anything else to help yourself feel better about this situation. 
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    #23681162 - 09/26/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lester just listen you didnt hear what i said!


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    #23681167 - 09/26/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm beginning to lose interest in this conversation with you.



No sweat brother, I agree to disagree.


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    #23681169 - 09/26/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can't wait to watch southpark tear into this in the next episode :awesomenod:


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    #23681181 - 09/26/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

He thinks military alliances should be business agreements. :facepalm:


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    #23681197 - 09/26/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Snowden said Bin Laden is living with his kids and wives in the Bahamas under secrecy and on the Cia payroll. He said he is shaved and in normal clothing and not part of the program anymore.


:strokebeard:




I could see that. I've heard about crazier shit behind the scenes from top level naval intelligence officers. (I was actually in their house at the time :lol:).

TLDR: there was a plan in place by JSOC to bomb a civilian cruise ship in international waters to take out a 9/11 financier and blame it on a different country. It got to the presidential level and instead of sending a missile into the cruise ship JSOC sent in SAD operatives disguised as medical personnel to evaluate the situation. They decided that the collateral damage would be too high and tracked him back to his home and bombed his house.

Keep in mind, the three plans presented were, in order of precedence

A) Board the cruise ship and take him out onboard
B) Follow him to his destination and kill him there
C) Bomb the cruise ship and blame it on a foreign country.

I'm not violating any laws by mentioning this because I acquired the information through strictly legal means. I was told this over dinner by the parents of the girl I was dating at the time.

I just don't care anymore :shrug:.

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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: koods]
    #23681204 - 09/26/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trumps doing poorly Hilary landed a few good blows and is proposing real ideas

I laughed my ass off a few times


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    #23681208 - 09/26/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I feel like Hillary won.


still hate em both though. trump was just stuck on his same ole china, mexico, black people r bad schpill


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    #23681210 - 09/26/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I laughed my ass off a few times




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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23681216 - 09/26/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump is making himself look like an idiot.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Anahata]
    #23681218 - 09/26/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump is making himself look like an idiot.





He's been doing it for over a year.


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    #23681219 - 09/26/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Its not nice" - Trump 2016 :lolsy:


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    #23681220 - 09/26/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump is making himself look like an idiot.




he's been doing that since day one


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    #23681226 - 09/26/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well Hillary didn't cough once. Must be a body double.


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    #23681227 - 09/26/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well fuck, I was gonna vote.


But once again screw them both.

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    #23681232 - 09/26/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well Hillary didn't cough once. Must be a body double.




the only people that like hill are gays and women (esp. gay women)

the only people who like trump are racists white men and the wealthy right


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Anahata]
    #23681233 - 09/26/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The announcers talking about them playing offense/ defense make this seem even more like some surreal sporting event or contest then an actual election...

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Well fuck, I was gonna vote.





Vote third party :thumbup:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: yourboybob]
    #23681235 - 09/26/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

well.....that was terrible

I kind of hate myself for sitting and watching through the entire thing.


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    #23681243 - 09/26/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What made it terrible?


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    #23681247 - 09/26/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The announcers talking about them playing offense/ defense make this seem even more like some surreal sporting event or contest then an actual election...

Quote:

Anahata said:
Well fuck, I was gonna vote.





Vote third party :thumbup:




Jill Stein: Because Everything Can Be Solved with Crystals







just to confirm i actually sorta like jill. at least a lot more than i like trump or hill


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23681248 - 09/26/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

them talking.


because those two are perfect at talking without actually saying anything.


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    #23681250 - 09/26/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary didn't pass out and trump didn't call her a dumb whore


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    #23681269 - 09/26/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It was worth watching for the comedic value


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: koods]
    #23681270 - 09/26/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah Clinton stooped to the mudslinging an obnoxious amount of time. She should've stuck to the facts the whole time, trump was his own worst enemy


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    #23681274 - 09/26/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hillary didn't pass out and trump didn't call her a dumb whore




Trump basically alluded to it though when he was talking about the add campaign against him :lol:

I wish I could find a clip of that Southpark episode where that meme cat is debating with two politicians and they are all just talking over eachother :rofl:


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    #23681281 - 09/26/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah he almost had a "I could have called you a bitch, but I'm not going to because I'm very very tremendous" moment


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: koods]
    #23681287 - 09/26/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

he didn't call her that because he has the right temperament, weren't you listening?!?!?!?


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: falsereality]
    #23681326 - 09/26/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys are taking this way too seriously.

:lahey:

Drink or smoke up and just enjoy.

"Cybersecurity will be one of the biggest challenges the next president faces...." -Clinton :lol:




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    #23681330 - 09/26/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

tremendous temperament


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    #23681332 - 09/26/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

very very good temperament, believe me.


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    #23681348 - 09/26/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary won bigly.


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    #23681350 - 09/26/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hillary hates gays


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    #23681373 - 09/26/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Naw but trumps vp certainly does.


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    #23681390 - 09/26/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump kept on being interrupted by his nose.


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    #23681421 - 09/26/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw but trumps vp certainly does.




I will politely correct your statement with accuracte facts, my fellow teapot.
Mike Pence dose not hate gays. He turned down the RFRA because the people of IndiAna didn't want it. He said clearly if the act goes through he will follow the will of the people despite his own personal beliefs.


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    #23681435 - 09/26/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary wants to establish a "no fly zone" in Syria.

What this means is war with both Syria and Russia, and providing direct air support for radical islamist terrorists (Al-Qaeda) on the ground.

Not that supporting terrorism is anything new for the US, but war with Russia & Syria is an extremely frightening prospect.


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    #23681514 - 09/26/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He thinks military alliances should be business agreements. :facepalm:





you dont think that it should be?


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    #23681518 - 09/26/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hillary didn't pass out and trump didn't call her a dumb whore





despite the fact that she is


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He thinks military alliances should be business agreements. :facepalm:





you dont think that it should be?



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    #23681685 - 09/26/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol trump was an utter joke. Hilda-beast still sucks though no question


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    #23681708 - 09/26/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Anahata said:
Snowden said Bin Laden is living with his kids and wives in the Bahamas under secrecy and on the Cia payroll. He said he is shaved and in normal clothing and not part of the program anymore.


:strokebeard:




I could see that. I've heard about crazier shit behind the scenes from top level naval intelligence officers. (I was actually in their house at the time :lol:).

TLDR: there was a plan in place by JSOC to bomb a civilian cruise ship in international waters to take out a 9/11 financier and blame it on a different country. It got to the presidential level and instead of sending a missile into the cruise ship JSOC sent in SAD operatives disguised as medical personnel to evaluate the situation. They decided that the collateral damage would be too high and tracked him back to his home and bombed his house.

Keep in mind, the three plans presented were, in order of precedence

A) Board the cruise ship and take him out onboard
B) Follow him to his destination and kill him there
C) Bomb the cruise ship and blame it on a foreign country.

I'm not violating any laws by mentioning this because I acquired the information through strictly legal means. I was told this over dinner by the parents of the girl I was dating at the time.

I just don't care anymore :shrug:.

I'm drunk though and will probably regret saying this in a day or so.



You think Hillary should go to jail for mishandling classified information, meanwhile you are treating classified information as gossip. Loose lips sink ships.
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    #23681730 - 09/26/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How much of a loser do you have to be to brag about something like that on a drug forum. :burke:


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    #23681759 - 09/26/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

dude, he found the light. don't take that away from him.


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    #23681873 - 09/27/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You think Hillary should go to jail for mishandling classified information, meanwhile you are treating classified information as gossip. Loose lips sink ships.
Also, you don't seem to understand what tl;dr means.




That is the TL:DR; version, the full story would be pages long. Also, fuck em' for even having that plan on the table. BTW I'm not the secretary of fucking state.


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    #23681885 - 09/27/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

there's always an "i'm not xxxxx", because gee, i wonder why you're not....maybe it's cause you haven't the capacity for it.



















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    #23681895 - 09/27/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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there's always an "i'm not xxxxx", because gee, i wonder why you're not....maybe it's cause you haven't the capacity for it.





Yeah, no shit I don't have the capacity to be the secretary of state. Want intel on Serbian royalty/politicians stealing shitloads of money from Russia? I got it all baby.

I found that plan morally reprehensible, which is why I chose to share it with you all. You need to know what the fuck happens behind closed doors.

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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: falsereality]
    #23681927 - 09/27/16 01:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

don't matter. no pitchforks were raised. the future refused to change, broo.


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    #23681945 - 09/27/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
You think Hillary should go to jail for mishandling classified information, meanwhile you are treating classified information as gossip. Loose lips sink ships.
Also, you don't seem to understand what tl;dr means.




That is the TL:DR; version, the full story would be pages long. Also, fuck em' for even having that plan on the table. BTW I'm not the secretary of fucking state.




Koods is actually an undercover jew sent to promote a number of jew agendas. Such as the reimplementation of court jews and the outlawing of foreskin.


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    #23681952 - 09/27/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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falsereality said:
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koods said:
You think Hillary should go to jail for mishandling classified information, meanwhile you are treating classified information as gossip. Loose lips sink ships.
Also, you don't seem to understand what tl;dr means.




That is the TL:DR; version, the full story would be pages long. Also, fuck em' for even having that plan on the table. BTW I'm not the secretary of fucking state.




Koods is actually an undercover jew sent to promote a number of jew agendas. Such as the reimplementation of court jews and the outlawing of foreskin.




If the bris is performed traditionally (called 'metzitzah b'peh'), the priest of whatever-the-fuck they call themselves suck the blood out of the baby's dick to "stop the bleeding". You can't make this shit up. 

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Health officials have reached a tentative agreement with New York City's ultra-Orthodox community over regulating the controversial practice known as metzitzah b'peh, or "oral suction circumcisions," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The tradition of metzitzah b'peh goes back to biblical times but has created a modern-day dilemma for religiously observant mankind. New York City officials linked the practice to 17 cases of infant herpes since 2000, of whom two died. In the latest development, the city will stop requiring mohels who use oral suction to have parents sign consent forms, which many hadn't complied with anyway. Instead the city will focus its efforts on educating members of the ultra-Orthodox community about the risks and dangers of the practice. "Our goal is to achieve awareness of the risks," city representative Avi Fink stated.
What is oral suction circumcision, or metzitzah b'peh, and where did it come from?
Though to a small number of observant communities, the practice is routine and normal, to cosmopolitan sophisticates it may seem pretty gruesome. After the mohel cuts off the foreskin, he uses his mouth – oral suction, rather than say a sponge - to effectively clear the wound on the baby's penis of blood, lest it clot and decay.
As for where it arose, metzitzah b'peh is a time-honored tradition codified in the most important Jewish scripts, much like circumcision itself.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138



http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138

Would make sense that koods wants to suck the blood out of babies... :strokebeard:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23681956 - 09/27/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wish Gary Johnson had been in the debate... Or better yet Ron Paul

Hell, I wish the LP had nominated mcaffee, that woulda been fun to watch. He woulda been the most tech proficient candidate ever


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    #23681974 - 09/27/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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falsereality said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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falsereality said:
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koods said:
You think Hillary should go to jail for mishandling classified information, meanwhile you are treating classified information as gossip. Loose lips sink ships.
Also, you don't seem to understand what tl;dr means.




That is the TL:DR; version, the full story would be pages long. Also, fuck em' for even having that plan on the table. BTW I'm not the secretary of fucking state.




Koods is actually an undercover jew sent to promote a number of jew agendas. Such as the reimplementation of court jews and the outlawing of foreskin.




If the bris is performed traditionally (called 'metzitzah b'peh'), the priest of whatever-the-fuck they call themselves suck the blood out of the baby's dick to "stop the bleeding". You can't make this shit up. 

Quote:

Health officials have reached a tentative agreement with New York City's ultra-Orthodox community over regulating the controversial practice known as metzitzah b'peh, or "oral suction circumcisions," the Associated Press reported Tuesday.
The tradition of metzitzah b'peh goes back to biblical times but has created a modern-day dilemma for religiously observant mankind. New York City officials linked the practice to 17 cases of infant herpes since 2000, of whom two died. In the latest development, the city will stop requiring mohels who use oral suction to have parents sign consent forms, which many hadn't complied with anyway. Instead the city will focus its efforts on educating members of the ultra-Orthodox community about the risks and dangers of the practice. "Our goal is to achieve awareness of the risks," city representative Avi Fink stated.
What is oral suction circumcision, or metzitzah b'peh, and where did it come from?
Though to a small number of observant communities, the practice is routine and normal, to cosmopolitan sophisticates it may seem pretty gruesome. After the mohel cuts off the foreskin, he uses his mouth – oral suction, rather than say a sponge - to effectively clear the wound on the baby's penis of blood, lest it clot and decay.
As for where it arose, metzitzah b'peh is a time-honored tradition codified in the most important Jewish scripts, much like circumcision itself.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138



http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138

Would make sense that koods wants to suck the blood out of babies... :strokebeard:




...how is religion still alive and well in such a seemingly advanced and civilized society. ugh


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    #23681984 - 09/27/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Koods is actually an undercover jew sent to promote a number of jew agendas. Such as the reimplementation of court jews and the outlawing of foreskin.



and we all knwo you're just a double O J00, trying to make it seem like Koods is a Jew, so the goys forget about the 10 Gorillion.


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    #23681987 - 09/27/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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...how is religion still alive and well in such a seemingly advanced and civilized society. ugh




Because most people don't want to develop their own theories on the universe (it's cold an uncaring) and the meaning of life (there is no meaning), so they cling to whatever religion they fancy. Albert Camus' The Stranger is an excellent book detailing absurdism and the over-evolution of human intelligence.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: falsereality]
    #23682005 - 09/27/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Junkie cops are on their way to seize your foreskin


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: falsereality]
    #23682007 - 09/27/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Morality always struck me as kind of odd considering the backdrop of evolution.


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    #23682010 - 09/27/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Morality always struck me as kind of odd considering the backdrop of evolution. Not that im neccessarily immoral, but its utility is more of a luxury then anything.




some of the underlying impulses are actually evolutionary (like protecting children/caring for children for instance) but most of it actually derives from the human capacity for reason, and though I think ethics are supremely important and the highest pursuit, they are probably merely an accident speaking in terms of their natural emergence


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    #23682025 - 09/27/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.

you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.

hahahaha absurdism for the win!


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    #23682036 - 09/27/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ha, it looks like a marriage gone bad and they are in divorce court :rofl:

Clinton: "Pigs, slobs and dogs" :lol:


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23682043 - 09/27/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So hang on, this ain't when the choice gets made? When is that?


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    #23682048 - 09/27/16 02:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Choice?

What choice do u mean?

FYI: Theres 3 nights of debates. This is nite one.


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    #23682049 - 09/27/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They still have to thumb wrestle. c'mon man.


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    #23682057 - 09/27/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wish it were so!

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    #23682060 - 09/27/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trumps hands are so small, and hilary is a woman. It would actually be a fair match.


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    #23682079 - 09/27/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.

you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.

hahahaha absurdism for the win!




true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course :evil:


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    #23682084 - 09/27/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course :evil:




I absolutely agree, although I'm not exactly politically affiliated, aside from being heavily against clinton/bush that is :smirk:. Credit where credit is due, she merced Trump -- he didn't prepare nearly enough for a debate like that.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
    #23682095 - 09/27/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

at least someone isn't just plainly sucking Trumps dick all the time around here.

this debate put in focus one thing: Trump is very similar to Hilary. but he isn't "establishment". just pro-business. :wink:


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    #23682098 - 09/27/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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at least someone isn't just plainly sucking Trumps dick all the time around here.

this debate put in focus one thing: Trump is very similar to Hilary. but he isn't "establishment". just pro-business. :wink:


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I didn't personally look into more of his facts but he lied about chicago's murder rate, exaggerating it ten times lol besides that he was simply not a match for Clinton, and I'm no fan of her's either but she had that one in the bag.

either way though big business wins, and the war machine will chug on glutinously


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
    #23682100 - 09/27/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Trump has a possible maximum of 2 terms, correct? people who A: don't want Hillary B: want to see the government held accountable for something; not Obama's "change", but a real change; they have to: hold Trump to their wishes, and just see how much the government can be held accountable for while he's in office; this is for two reasons: A: to make as much reform as possible before he's out of office, and B: to see what'll happen.

the latter B is really what i'm dying to see. i already know what is in America. let's see it mean something.


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    #23682157 - 09/27/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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FYI: Theres 3 nights of debates. This is nite one.



What, so these two cunts go at each others throats for another two nights, and then people vote?


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    #23682305 - 09/27/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The actual election is November 8th.


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    #23682544 - 09/27/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course :evil:




I absolutely agree, although I'm not exactly politically affiliated, aside from being heavily against clinton/bush that is :smirk:. Credit where credit is due, she merced Trump -- he didn't prepare nearly enough for a debate like that.



The thing that most people don't get is that Trump lacks the ability to prepare for something like this...His true colors will always come out when pushed. The man has zero substance and has only got this far because he has played to the crowds. Problem is...now shit gets real....He still has no plans for any thing other than that bullshit idea about cutting corporate taxes even more.:facepalm3: Oh yeah...lol, then he actually fucking doubles down on two of his lies that have been proven over and over again to be false.....lol...priceless.


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    #23682556 - 09/27/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

He admitted to federal tax evasion last night.
That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass


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    #23682564 - 09/27/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People love "his" tax idea because its simple and they don't have to read a whole paragraph to grasp the idea

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    #23682601 - 09/27/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

akira_akuma said:
ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.

you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.

hahahaha absurdism for the win!




true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course :evil:




Atm I don't care to comment on the rest of this silliness but I'd like to point out how true this is. Infanticide was extremely common in many societies up until the 18th century.


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    #23682651 - 09/27/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He admitted to federal tax evasion last night.
That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass




No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.


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    #23682664 - 09/27/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He admitted to federal tax evasion last night.
That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass




No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.



....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.


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    #23682771 - 09/27/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What he admitted to is being a free loader


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    #23682775 - 09/27/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He admitted to federal tax evasion last night.
That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass




No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.



....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.




There is no way to offset actual income except with losses. Donald trump doesn't earn any money. Most likely because of his massive debt


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He admitted to federal tax evasion last night.
That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass




No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.



....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.




That's in your business, not Trump's.  Real estate investors are in an entirely different situation when it comes to taxation.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: qman]
    #23682804 - 09/27/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: koods]
    #23682833 - 09/27/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.




Real estate investing is much more complicated than "losses/expenses". 

"Paying nothing means you are a loser"

Not necessarily true.


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    #23682855 - 09/27/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.




Real estate investing is much more complicated than "losses/expenses". 

"Paying nothing means you are a loser"

Not necessarily true.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-income-tax-returns-once-became-public-they-showed-he-didnt-pay-a-cent/2016/05/20/ffa2f63c-1b7c-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html?tid=a_inl-amp
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trump had submitted his 1978 and 1979 returns to the regulators as part of an application for a casino license. State records summarizing the returns show that Trump claimed that his combined income during those two years was negative $3.8 million, allowing him to pay no taxes.



No.. he's just a loser who had negative income.

There's a reason he has paid out more to his companies from his campaign than he has donated... he needs the money. Trump is using campaign donations to increase his cash flow.


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    #23682969 - 09/27/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.

you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.

hahahaha absurdism for the win!




true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course :evil:




Atm I don't care to comment on the rest of this silliness but I'd like to point out how true this is. Infanticide was extremely common in many societies up until the 18th century.




and there are other examples, slavery was never seen as wrong in the ancient world, it was normalized. Public torture and execution were seen as entertainment, watched even by children until mere centuries ago, the death penalty never even questioned until philosophers touched on it with social contract theory. Rape was often seen as a just reward for conquering soldiers in many cultures, female genital mutilation and on and on

my point being, reason is what got us here, reason is what creates our noblest values, and the dismissal of reason in politics today threatens the entire foundation of human advancement. Truthiness cannot prevail, or the species will fail imo


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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: qman]
    #23683452 - 09/27/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.




Real estate investing is much more complicated than "losses/expenses". 

"Paying nothing means you are a loser"

Not necessarily true.



He works through corporations....corporations have to file corporate tax returns....to not pay taxes....you have to show a loss or no income....This is the way it works. Of course salaries are just a line item on the P & L's...He could be paying himself a huge salary that would be a line item expense for his company. In other words, he could still make a shit ton of money from the corporation without the corporation having to pay taxes. His personal income would go up and he would have to pay taxes on that unless he somehow hides that.


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    #23683478 - 09/27/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.




Real estate investing is much more complicated than "losses/expenses". 

"Paying nothing means you are a loser"

Not necessarily true.



He works through corporations....corporations have to file corporate tax returns....to not pay taxes....you have to show a loss or no income....This is the way it works. Of course salaries are just a line item on the P & L's...He could be paying himself a huge salary that would be a line item expense for his company. In other words, he could still make a shit ton of money from the corporation without the corporation having to pay taxes. His personal income would go up and he would have to pay taxes on that unless he somehow hides that.




Depreciation and interest expenses can really reduce those taxable "profits" on the balance sheet.

In fact, while depreciating the property for tax purposes, the property could have appreciated 15% for the year.  You will never see that on a tax return.


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    #23683479 - 09/27/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He works through corporations....corporations have to file corporate tax returns....to not pay taxes....you have to show a loss or no income....This is the way it works.




Yup, I used to shove profits into our operating capital budget so it could be used to buy computer hardware and other fixed assets. Completely legal loophole that drastically reduces taxes due to depreciation allowance.

I suspect Trump does this by moving profits into his corporation' operating capital to buy property to receive preferential tax treatment.


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    #23683501 - 09/27/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.




Real estate investing is much more complicated than "losses/expenses". 

"Paying nothing means you are a loser"

Not necessarily true.



He works through corporations....corporations have to file corporate tax returns....to not pay taxes....you have to show a loss or no income....This is the way it works. Of course salaries are just a line item on the P & L's...He could be paying himself a huge salary that would be a line item expense for his company. In other words, he could still make a shit ton of money from the corporation without the corporation having to pay taxes. His personal income would go up and he would have to pay taxes on that unless he somehow hides that.




We're not talking about tax returns for his companies. We're talking about his personal income taxes.


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    #23683508 - 09/27/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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We're not talking about tax returns for his companies. We're talking about his personal income taxes.




The two are related in that he could invest in fixed assets with a depreciation allowance such as property, planes, helicopters, cars... pretty much anything remotely used for business. By doing this, he probably doesn't take home that much on paper but he has all the cool toys that accompany being a billionaire.


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    #23683532 - 09/27/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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He works through corporations....corporations have to file corporate tax returns....to not pay taxes....you have to show a loss or no income....This is the way it works.




Yup, I used to shove profits into our operating capital budget so it could be used to buy computer hardware and other fixed assets. Completely legal loophole that drastically reduces taxes due to depreciation allowance.

I suspect Trump does this by moving profits into his corporation' operating capital to buy property to receive preferential tax treatment.




You can't move money between your corporation and your personal finances without structuring it as a loan, a payment, wages, investment, capital gains or a gift. It's all very sketchy and probably is the reason why he pays so many fines to the IRS. Trump has paid himself millions of dollars from his campaign just for the use of the plane alone. I feel bad for his donors that they are suckers in another money making scheme from a professional scam artist.


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    #23683657 - 09/27/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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We're not talking about tax returns for his companies. We're talking about his personal income taxes.




The two are related in that he could invest in fixed assets with a depreciation allowance such as property, planes, helicopters, cars... pretty much anything remotely used for business. By doing this, he probably doesn't take home that much on paper but he has all the cool toys that accompany being a billionaire.



Yeah, I know...but if he has LLC's or subchapter S corps...they can show up on his personal taxes. In any case, I find it hard to see how he could avoid paying any taxes if he has all this income that he brags about. The fact that he bragged about it last night was pretty revolting....Especially to someone like me that owns  a business and struggles to make ends meet because I pay what I'm supposed to pay. It's just one more completely vile thing about this man that nauseates me.


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    #23683673 - 09/27/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, I know...but if he has LLC's or subchapter S corps...they can show up on his personal taxes. In any case, I find it hard to see how he could avoid paying any taxes if he has all this income that he brags about. The fact that he bragged about it last night was pretty revolting....Especially to someone like me that owns  a business and struggles to make ends meet because I pay what I'm supposed to pay. It's just one more completely vile thing about this man that nauseates me.




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