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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 3
#23682049 - 09/27/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They still have to thumb wrestle. c'mon man.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: vandago]
#23682057 - 09/27/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish it were so!
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23682060 - 09/27/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trumps hands are so small, and hilary is a woman. It would actually be a fair match.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23682079 - 09/27/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.
you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.
hahahaha absurdism for the win!
true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
#23682084 - 09/27/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course 
I absolutely agree, although I'm not exactly politically affiliated, aside from being heavily against clinton/bush that is . Credit where credit is due, she merced Trump -- he didn't prepare nearly enough for a debate like that.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
#23682095 - 09/27/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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at least someone isn't just plainly sucking Trumps dick all the time around here.
this debate put in focus one thing: Trump is very similar to Hilary. but he isn't "establishment". just pro-business. 
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: akira_akuma]
#23682098 - 09/27/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: at least someone isn't just plainly sucking Trumps dick all the time around here.
this debate put in focus one thing: Trump is very similar to Hilary. but he isn't "establishment". just pro-business. 
"MY SMALL STRUGGLE!! UGH!" *poot* "MY SMALL LOAD!"
I didn't personally look into more of his facts but he lied about chicago's murder rate, exaggerating it ten times lol besides that he was simply not a match for Clinton, and I'm no fan of her's either but she had that one in the bag.
either way though big business wins, and the war machine will chug on glutinously
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
#23682100 - 09/27/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump has a possible maximum of 2 terms, correct? people who A: don't want Hillary B: want to see the government held accountable for something; not Obama's "change", but a real change; they have to: hold Trump to their wishes, and just see how much the government can be held accountable for while he's in office; this is for two reasons: A: to make as much reform as possible before he's out of office, and B: to see what'll happen.
the latter B is really what i'm dying to see. i already know what is in America. let's see it mean something.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23682157 - 09/27/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: FYI: Theres 3 nights of debates. This is nite one.
What, so these two cunts go at each others throats for another two nights, and then people vote?
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23682305 - 09/27/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The actual election is November 8th.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: falsereality] 1
#23682544 - 09/27/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course 
I absolutely agree, although I'm not exactly politically affiliated, aside from being heavily against clinton/bush that is . Credit where credit is due, she merced Trump -- he didn't prepare nearly enough for a debate like that.
The thing that most people don't get is that Trump lacks the ability to prepare for something like this...His true colors will always come out when pushed. The man has zero substance and has only got this far because he has played to the crowds. Problem is...now shit gets real....He still has no plans for any thing other than that bullshit idea about cutting corporate taxes even more. Oh yeah...lol, then he actually fucking doubles down on two of his lies that have been proven over and over again to be false.....lol...priceless.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Thayendanegea] 1
#23682556 - 09/27/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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He admitted to federal tax evasion last night. That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass
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#23682564 - 09/27/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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People love "his" tax idea because its simple and they don't have to read a whole paragraph to grasp the idea
What a hopeless cause, stratification intensifies
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Ezuma]
#23682601 - 09/27/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said:
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akira_akuma said: ethics is like viral memetics. if i can convince people of something, that acts as a virus, which can override evolutionary impulses.
you can be as right as ever (logic is a sort of black hole, eventually, but you can get by), but i can still win, if i can convince people to act against their own self-interest. to do so, you make them sin.
hahahaha absurdism for the win!
true, especially because mostly morals aren't actually based in reason but a more primitive habit of wanting to be part of the group, something I think most right wingers don't understand or ignore: morals aren't absolute and never were, and if everyone you know tells you killing babies is the right thing, you'll kill babies. Thing is that tribe will quickly sort itself out of course 
Atm I don't care to comment on the rest of this silliness but I'd like to point out how true this is. Infanticide was extremely common in many societies up until the 18th century.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: ModestMouse]
#23682651 - 09/27/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: He admitted to federal tax evasion last night. That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass
No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: qman]
#23682664 - 09/27/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: He admitted to federal tax evasion last night. That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass
No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.
....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: qman]
#23682771 - 09/27/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What he admitted to is being a free loader
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23682775 - 09/27/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: He admitted to federal tax evasion last night. That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass
No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.
....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.
There is no way to offset actual income except with losses. Donald trump doesn't earn any money. Most likely because of his massive debt
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23682777 - 09/27/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: He admitted to federal tax evasion last night. That alone was enough to solidify him as a complete jackass
No, he admitted to trying to pay the least amount in taxes LEGALLY, that's not tax evasion. In fact, it's the goal of every taxpayer, pay the least amount.
....and that was zero on the only times that his tax documents could actually be reviewed.....Even you have to agree that is not fair....In my business, for us to pay zero fed taxes...we have to show a loss for the year.
That's in your business, not Trump's. Real estate investors are in an entirely different situation when it comes to taxation.
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Re: **Official Presidential Debate Thread** [Re: qman]
#23682804 - 09/27/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Naw. If you don't pay any tax, it means you don't have any net income. His losses/expenses are more than his gains. Paying a low rate around 10-15% means you are a good money manager. Paying nothing means you are a loser.
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