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Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions
    #23680303 - 09/26/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hello fellow psychedelic enthusiasts, thanks in advance for taking the time to read my post and for any advice you can give.

Some background about myself: I'm almost 30 living in the USA, I've been addicted to oxycontin and heroin for almost 10years with 2years of sobriety that I was able to achieve by tripping hard on my homegrown shrooms for almost a week during withdrawls. It was so long ago I can't remember my dosing schedule.

For the last few months I've decided I am finally done with the bullshit, tired of opiates running my life and taking all my money. Right now I am at a pretty good place mentally, depression is almost non existent. I have an amazing girlfriend of almost 7years, she is almost half way into a pregnancy. She had some legal issues and ended up in a rehab for pregnant women. She gets out in January, and the baby will be born sometime in March maybe. She is doing great with sobriety and I know she will continue to. Now it's my turn.

For as wonderful as she's been, I feel I owe it to her and my baby to get off the opiates and be a better father than mine was. I understand it's almost impossible to get off opiates until your ready, I want to get clean for myself also, just being a better partner and dad would be great too.

If anyone has questions about any of that feel free to ask, I don't have anyone to talk to about any of this.

Onto my questions...
As stated above I have had previous success with using mushrooms to quit in the past but that was while I was growing shrooms and at one point at the end of my week or whatever it was I ate half an oz for an extreme trip. My idea was to solidify all the knowledge I gained earlier in the week with a complete ego death. This time I have to buy the shrooms and I'm trying to figure out how I can stretch a half oz for 3-4days.

You don't need to have experience with opiates, but I would like to talk dosing with anyone that's tripped multiple days in a row.

I'm thinking I'll take my last dose of Heroin on a Friday morning b4 work so I can get through the day, then eat maybe 2grams of shrooms when I get out of work. Have a light trip for a few hours then smoke some bud, pop a few Xanax bars to knock me out for the night.
Day 2- wake up try to eat something, wait a couple hours or however long it takes till I'm really fiending for a fix then take another small dose, maybe 2.5-3 Gram's of shrooms. Smoke and pop Xanax when trip is over, chill for a few hours, take a bigger dose of maybe 3.5grams.

I plan to continue that from later Friday afternoon to late Sunday night or take Monday off for one last day depending on how I feel.

Starting at 2grams on Friday, then tripping 2times a day for Sat and Sunday, and maybe once in the morning Monday if needed how much do you think my tolerance will increase?

I used to be heavy into psychedelics but it's been a couple years since I've even tripped. So with all that doea anyone have any suggestions on doses or anything to share?

Thanks again for reading this and positive vibes for all.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23680348 - 09/26/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's a shame kratom is going to illegal soon, I didn't see you mention it and idk if you even know about it but maybe research it and buy a few ounces before it's too late.

Other than that, I'd say tripping days in a row isn't going to work with only 14g of shrooms.
I mean it could but idk.
I really hope it helps you anyway.

If you want to get the most out of the mushrooms maybe eat the first dose Friday, skip the xanax if you can, it'll make you trip less efficiently.
Day two, prepare a tea with the heightened dose, use lemon in the tea to convert the psilocybin to psilocin, this will help the onset be faster and the experience should be a bit more intense, BUT also a bit shorter, once that trip is done pop a bar if you want OR don't and eat the final big dose Sunday trip hard and then finish it with a bar.

Idk man, it's tough to say but that's how I would try to do it personally.

I really wish you the best though, and congrats on the bun in the oven man, that baby really does deserve TWO sober parents, so MAKE it happen.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: impaired420]
    #23680364 - 09/26/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Like this person said check into kratom it helped me tremendously with opiate addiction. Also save the benzos and don't munch them all in a day or two unless you can get more easily as they are a lifesaver for sleep. Also I would try to stay on kratom through out the days and then trip larger mushroom doses at night. I think you would get more mileage doing it this way.

I quit methadone and Xanax almost two years ago when my daughter was born. You got this OP and I will be sending positive vibes your way! PM me if you need to talk or have any questions!

PS. Hurry If your going to buy kratom a lot of sites are ending orders as of midnight tonight.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: impaired420]
    #23680368 - 09/26/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would say kratom would of helped you alot. Its a long shot with only 1/2 oz..Usually have to double your dose if its within a week.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: LSDollar]
    #23680380 - 09/26/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also if you can find gabapentin or pregabalin that shit will totally wipe out all opiate withdrawal. Gabapentin when I quit methadone saved my life and I told my doctor that had me on methadone that they should give gaba for getting off opiates and not suboxone or methadone


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23680747 - 09/26/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Big thanks to everyone for the help and congratulations. Its a very exciting time and I'm praying this is the kick I need to finally get my shit together. I've heard about Keaton and anything natural that can help is ok in my book. Ill look into getting some but I might be out of luck by the time I have the necessary $ to get all my detox supplies together.

I may be able to get some gabapentin, and I heard that works good for back pain/nerve pain during withdrawls. The worst for me is the first few days and the lack of sleep so that's the only reason im considering Xanax. I enjoy it too much and don't need any extra addictions.

Since it's a bit of a pain in the ass to find the shrooms where im at its gonna take a few days to get once I get paid Friday then I gotta wait till the weekend since I work full time.

Ill be stocking up on fruits,Imodium, maybe 20 Xanax bars, benadryl, gabapentin if possible, some top shelf buds/dabs and at least a half oz of shrooms. I was considering trying an Ayahuasca brew to take in-between shroom doses but we'll see. It'll be a week or 2 but I'll keep everyone updated as soon as I make any kind of progress since Ill want to brag lol.

I should also say that my highly praised mushroom detox is just one possible way to get clean. I'm praying it works again for me because my other options are detox then methadone maintenance, or a month long rehab. I was going to a methadone maintenance for a while and I fucking hated it! While it's free or cheap instead of going to the hood every morning for my fix I would be going to the methadone clinic and I feel that to beat this I need to change my habits too. The hoops they make you jump through are a pain in the ass, a methadone prescription would be a different story but I don't believe that's possible for me.

I just started smoking herb again after a long hiatus and I love the introspective thoughts I have when I smoke, that's what got me to start thinking about my old mushroom detox.

I guess that's it for now. Good night

Edit: forgot to say I'm all for the lemon tea and I guess ill have to cut back on doses and just take more per dose. 3-4 mid strength doses might just do the trick


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23681276 - 09/26/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you're going to being through withdrawal. Personally I'd imagine tripping wouldn't help too much, maybe even make you more nausous. if it works then it works though.

I can't imagine you'll be feeling the shrooms too much due to tolerance by then end though. But if you do it I wish you the best of trips.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Achillita]
    #23681519 - 09/26/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Probably not what you want to hear but don't get kratom. It's just another drug one can get addicted to. I don't care what anyone here says. Kratom is a drug and it is easily habit forming. Next thing you know... instead of doing a shot of heroin to feel like your normal self you're going to be taking 10 grams of kratom to feel like your normal self. Kratom is just another unhealthy, costly habit you don't need in your life.

Realistically, I don't think 14 grams of mushrooms is going to last you 3 or 4 days of consecutive tripping. I'd say if you want to trip 3 or 4 days in a row the number would be more like 2 ounces.

Good luck to you man. You can do it. Fuck that heroin shit. You don't need it. Do good. Be safe.

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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23681657 - 09/26/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The immodium can actually work very well look into using it to ween off and help you through the hard first three days or so. Just remember a laxative.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23681878 - 09/27/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Look for ibogaine on the darknet it has a high success rate for helping get people off of opiates.
It messes with your brain chemistry so you won't necessarily need opiates to feel normal or happy when you come off of them.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23682269 - 09/27/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I still believe the best way to withdrawal at home is gabapentin, Xanax and marijuana for those first 4-5 days. Don't stay on any of that after a week due to their own addiction potential... Well besides the smoke.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23682394 - 09/27/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@Achillita- the shrooms don't help withdrawls much if any, it just makes you critical of the choices you've made and able to be introspective. It should allow you to break free from your old self and become who you want to be.

@b1gp1g- I've only done minimal research on kratom but I have the same concerns about it becoming a less evil sort of addiction. It might work if I only stick with it a few days and theres no withdrawls from kratom for a few days use... something to look further into.  Also thanks for the support, it sucks I got to this point and it's shocking so much time has passed but it's time to do some work on myself.

@eggtimer/dcthestar- I've always heard good things about Imodium and never thought it was helpful for anything other than loose bowels, but surprisingly at higher doses it really takes a bite out of withdrawls. Xanax/weed/ and hopefully gabapentin will be in my detox kit. Ibogaine would be great if I can find it.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23682430 - 09/27/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Look for ibogaine on the darknet it has a high success rate for helping get people off of opiates.
It messes with your brain chemistry so you won't necessarily need opiates to feel normal or happy when you come off of them.




Iboga can allow you to skip opioid withdrawl completely or at least partially. Problem is that it can be quite hard on the body.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042] * 1
    #23682444 - 09/27/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly, Op...I would go to the 28 day treatment center...one that doesn't substitute subs or another opioid...that will get you completely off of the opiates.
Then, work on a plan like NA or another group to help you stay off of them. The easier/ softer way rarely works IME.

I can't imagine tripping on mushrooms while in opiate withdrawal...sounds excruciating to me.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23682524 - 09/27/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I tripped during xanax withdrawal and I won't do that ever again. Both getting addicted and then tripping in withdrawal lol :laugh:


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23682627 - 09/27/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Honestly, Op...I would go to the 28 day treatment center...one that doesn't substitute subs or another opioid...that will get you completely off of the opiates.
Then, work on a plan like NA or another group to help you stay off of them. The easier/ softer way rarely works IME.

I can't imagine tripping on mushrooms while in opiate withdrawal...sounds excruciating to me.




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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23682746 - 09/27/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ibogaine sounds like it would be good in a controlled setting, self medicating sounds like too much for me and kratom isnt too easy to find on the clear net.

Tripping during withdrawls definitely isn't fun, its a real mind fuck, but it worked once and I'd like to detox without methadone or subs. Like impaired420 I never wanted to go through the withdrawls or the intense trips necessary to reset my brain again and I didn't mess with opiates again until I got arrested 2years later for growing shrooms/weed and my life turned upside down.

@bigfeely123- a 28day detox is definitely a possibility, Ill do whatever it takes to get clean and stay clean this time. I just want to try it my way first since I was successful last time. I will most likely get back to NA afterwards, well see how things go once my baby is born. If everything works out I should be getting a new apartment in different town, working extra hours, and taking care of a new baby but if possible me and my SO would like to find local NA meetings.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23682785 - 09/27/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I hear you man. However you get clean doesn't matter as long as you stay clean. Going to a different town may be good for you. Also, this is what I did, although it wasn't with heroin. I deleted any dealer's number that I didn't want to associate with anymore. Not only that but I also deleted the texts & call history from them as well so I couldn't go back when I was fiending & save their number again in my contacts. On most smart phones, even when you delete someone from your contacts you still have the number on your phone from the texts and/or calls you made to them it just won't have a name attached to it but you'll obviously know who it is from what you were texting about. I totally erased them so I could not get in contact with them even if I wanted to. Good luck to you man.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23682902 - 09/27/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tripping while going thru an opiate WD doesnt sound like a route I would like to go IMO. I been a heroin addict myself for the past 7 and a half years the only thing that worked for me is to actually getting into a maintenance program yeah people say that the WDs are worse than dope when your getting off of em but they are only bad if you get off them fast if you taper the right way than you will have little to no WDs and the time you are on subs/or methadone will be the time where you can get your life together. You also get therapy which really helps I always wanted to avoid talking to a therapist but it sure has helped with figuring out why I have been doing this shit to myself and what I can do to not fall back into that life. It has really helped me and if it wasnt for my clinic in my town I would prolly be dead right now with all this fent heroin comming around my town.
  To each their own tho different things work for different people thats what has work for me in Nov it will be a year since i stuck a needle in my arm I never thought I would live to say that! :smile: Whatever way you end up choosing I wish you the best of luck I wouldnt wish opiate addiction on my worst enemy its something that sure has gotten the best of me.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23683834 - 09/27/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I always found that NA did more harm than good and was a breeding ground for dealers as a lot of time it's court ordered. That's just me though whatever works. I personally find AA/NA people to be kind of intense and cultish.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23683917 - 09/27/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Also if you can find gabapentin or pregabalin that shit will totally wipe out all opiate withdrawal. Gabapentin when I quit methadone saved my life and I told my doctor that had me on methadone that they should give gaba for getting off opiates and not suboxone or methadone





I second this with the gabapentin/pregabalin. It does wonders for opiate w/d.

question for DCthestar- What was your experience like getting clean with gabapentin? I have used it to get me through soe tough times, but never have I 100% kicked with it. In your experience does it just prolong withdrawals? I noticed it eliminated ALL of my heroin W/D symptoms when I took it, I'm curious if you could just mask the illness for 4-5 days and skip most of your kick?


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23684544 - 09/27/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Also if you can find gabapentin or pregabalin that shit will totally wipe out all opiate withdrawal. Gabapentin when I quit methadone saved my life and I told my doctor that had me on methadone that they should give gaba for getting off opiates and not suboxone or methadone





I second this with the gabapentin/pregabalin. It does wonders for opiate w/d.

question for DCthestar- What was your experience like getting clean with gabapentin? I have used it to get me through soe tough times, but never have I 100% kicked with it. In your experience does it just prolong withdrawals? I noticed it eliminated ALL of my heroin W/D symptoms when I took it, I'm curious if you could just mask the illness for 4-5 days and skip most of your kick?




It worked for me a few times... I would eventually get back on opiates because those times I hadn't had a support system set up for after the initial week ya know.

But speaking to the gaba I would use gaba for 7-8 days to make sure I was over all the physical stuff and used a few benzos or weed to help sleep and then would just quit with no side effects at all. IMO gaba is the best drug to use to get past the first week of WDs but then you need to have some sort of counseling/support/change to beat the mental addiction which is actually the harder thing to overcome.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23685442 - 09/28/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@avshroomer- no it's not very fun at all, it's an all around bad trip but even bad trips can teach you the way. Ive been in methadone maintenance before and I hated it for a few different reasons but I'm willing to go back if I can't do this on my own.

Congrats on beating the addiction and staying clean. A whole year of sobriety would definitely be a good reason to celebrate. Are you still in the methadone program?? If not What dose did you get up to and what dose did you eventually quit at?

Opiates are such fucked up drugs, they're great for pain relief if you need them but they're too hard to control. Even people with prescriptions get fucked up.

I fear death more now than ever, even though I got a stupid high tolerance a few too many bags of fent could kill anyone. Actually my girl OD'D twice on fentanyl and I had to give her CPR until the paramedics came. I'm so happy she's off the shit in rehab and I don't have to worry about her while I'm working on my self. I've never been in such a good relationship and I'd be lost without her.

Actually in a convo with her a few days ago she told me one of the reasons she really wanted to have the baby is because shes worried about me dying and she would never forgive herself having an abortion if that did happen. That convo was a slap yo reality...

@dcthestar- I agree with your observations on AA/NA but everyone says you have to do it.. the hardcore members definitely make me uneasy and it does feel like a cult but even so it will be nice for me and my girl to get outta the house a couple times a week and actively think about the addiction were fighting.

@anyone talking about gabapentin... ive done alot of reading online and while I have little to no experience with it, it seems to be a miracle cure at higher doses. I'm going to see if I can procure a bunch of it for my upcoming detox. in one post someone said they slept for 10hours after taking twice the recommended dose...that blows me away as sleep during withdrawls is either non existent or only half hour at a time .


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23685900 - 09/28/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been clean for two years without AA/NA bro but I understand about getting out of the house. The key is to find a good group with lots of good open sharing.

I got clean by getting through the withdrawals and checking into a 30 day rehab. After that my new born daughter and my wife and son have kept me clean. I almost lost them so it's plenty of motivation. And I still get to have my fun because my wife is cool with my drug use as long as it's not anything addictive like opiates, benzos, amphetamines ect. She trips mushrooms and LSD with me and is interested in trying ketamine with me soon. But man like I said if you ever need to talk or vent PM me. I'm actually going to school go become a licensed chemical dependency counselor.

Don't let anyone ever tell you there is a certain way to do it or that youcant do it without AA or God/religion. It's all about wanting to change, getting real with yourself and the lies your addiction will tell you and building up a support system with some counseling.

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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23685909 - 09/28/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In no way is this dose advice just saying what I did and what worked for me to feel great and get sleep.

Take around 1800mg gabapentin that would last until bedtime. Fill my days up with activity so I have my mind off of the boredom.

At night take another 600-1200mg of gaba and take 2mg Xanax along with a bowl or two of some good. I slept every night that week with that recipe and I wasn't blowing through Xanax or weed trying to feel OK all day.

I think I have a high tolerance to gaba so if you do it start small.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23686016 - 09/28/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i began detox this morning, woke up at 4am sweaty and shitty. i took 1200mg GABApentin and within an hour and a half I was back asleep til 830, I feel fine right now (9am) except that back chill issues. I could prolly use another small dose of GABApentin. Only thing is I only have maybe 15 300mg capsules. so I am trying to make it last at least a few days.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23686025 - 09/28/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i began detox this morning, woke up at 4am sweaty and shitty. i took 1200mg GABApentin and within an hour and a half I was back asleep til 830, I feel fine right now (9am) except that back chill issues. I could prolly use another small dose of GABApentin. Only thing is I only have maybe 15 300mg capsules. so I am trying to make it last at least a few days.



Good luck brother!! Glad you got some sleep... Sleep makes a world of difference in how you feel during detox. PM me if you need to talk buddy. Cheers! You got this!


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: dcthestar]
    #23710838 - 10/05/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

****UPDATE*****

Hello everybody, (hello doctor Nick)
      Just wanted to update my progress since there are genuinely nice/caring people on shroomery. I was able to acquire (30) 300mg gabapentin, I will most likely buy more just in case and I want to load up on them since it's a great drug to have around.

I actually had a trial run on the gabapentin... I took what I sarcastically call a vacation day last Saturday ( vacation=a short break from whatever drug for whatever reason) and between gabapentin and OG kush shatter I literally slept all day and most if the night. I would wake up eat a few pills, a few dabs and lay down day dreaming about my girl. It worked very well considering I'm coming off a 2-3 bundle a day addiction.

Im picking up a bottle of clonazepam this Friday and telling my boss that I'm finally taking my vacation, so within the next week or 2 it'll be time to detox. I am so excited to detox, I'm literally counting down the days now that my plan is in full swing.

My girlfriend is happy and healthy,for the last couple weeks she's been sending me couple selfies and belly pics so I'm very excited. She's also got a baby app on her phone and I found out my baby is the size of a bell pepper/tomato, it's very rewarding to know ill be the proud father of a pepper.




@fertnilly- good luck on the detox, were all praying for you. Actually I realize your post was from last week, how ya feeling? What did you use to help withdrawls if anything?

@dcthestar- you seem like a very cool dude , with your personal experience with addiction and belief that there's more than one way to get clean I think you will be an amazing counseled when you finish school. My girl is similar to your in that she is cool with weed/psychedelics so ill always have my herb. I don't drink so a lil bud once in a while is s fair trade off I think.

Well i think that's good for now, next time I post I will be clean or in a treatment program.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23711576 - 10/05/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I actually didnt stay clean too long before copping again.. I am now at about 36 hours again.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23711784 - 10/05/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i battled it for 8 years on and off...would always make it to 3, 6, or 9 months and go back..the mental addiction is the hardest. you come out feeling like a baby, not knowing who you are, what you like, any of that kinda stuff..heroin makes life simple, just that one thing matters, the next fix..but it's no way to live..living life is scary, but also exciting. as a junkie your future is foretold and really, what's the fun in that?

NA/AA works for some, but not my cup of tea..its always had an opposite effect on me and i feel what was best for me was to just move in a different direction all together..i couldnt do it without my fungal friends though..but they can only give you a clear picture of who you are, where your at, and what you need to do to get where you want to be..but you have to take the actions..the key is to stay off for long enough to form another life, one that is better than the feeling of a big shot! it can be done

congrats on the baby, you are very lucky to have a family of your own coming together...i know you can do this, forgive yourself! that is hugely important...im gonna check your progress because my heart goes out to you my friend:mushroom2:


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23711786 - 10/05/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just checking back with you and in response to your question @bigben042 I am still on the methadone program gonna start to taper a bit down now that its almost a year since I been here at the clinic and a year in mid nov since I shot heroin. Im not rushing out of here especially with how good I have done this past year. This year I plan to taper down and stay at a lower dose than im at now. Its gonna be a long road before I fully get off opiates. If I said otherwise I would be lying to myself detoxing off dope cold turkey has done some people good but for me I always go back weather it me a week or a month I ended up going back and letting myself and my loved ones down again and again.
  Now me and my girl both have been off heroin for a year Im about to get my own place and have been able to keep a full time job something I was never able to do strung out on the daily. All in all things are looking up i just gotta stay on track and not let my guard down. The dope around here has been killing alot of friends this past year just lost another friend last week to fent laced dope... :/
  Whatever way you choose to get off the junk the more power to you! You know yourself better than anyone. Its a huge obstacle to get past and you gotta change everything about your daily routine. Find hobbies and things to take your mind off of being bored and going out and copping. Weather it be riding a bike, reading a book, gaming, shit even growing mushrooms! If you ever need to talk to anyone you can alwyas PM me keep us updated! Best of luck with your Detox! :mushroom2:


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23712450 - 10/06/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

agreed av, methadone and suboxone can give you time to find another way to live, and to build a life worth living, then deal with the physical...best wishes to you too


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    #23712467 - 10/06/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ohh and the gabapentin is very interesting...really cool if its working


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: funkymonk22]
    #23713258 - 10/06/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

well im almost at 48 hours. my only real symptom is cold chills, mild. oh and diarrhea.. alot. I think I need to up my gabapentin dose a little, Ive read that tolerance grows fast to it.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23744416 - 10/17/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

@ feet nitty damn bro wish I jumped back on here sooner. Imodium does wonders even in small doses, but in large doses really helped me get through nights when I couldn't any dope. Shit maybe 6 2mg Imodium and a few 25mg benadryl w/o caffeine actually got my girl to stop flopping around like a fish and kicking me ll night during one of our last rough clean nights waiting till the next morning to cop.. and gabapentin definitely has its uses but it's not gonna deal with all the symptoms. Hope your doing well bro, I got my big jump off on this Thursday. I been saving up all kinds of different drugs for different reasons. I'll prolly get a list of of shit in my detox kit this time around but at a later time.. it's currently 530am and i been up all night sick again but on purpose. Ive skipped a fea days of dope here and there over the past couple weeks to prepare myself for doing it for real. Since this time I don't have much room to fuck up
Its either get off the dope 100% or go to methadone program and Id rather beat it myself again if I can.


@avshroomer man these stories break ur fuckin heart Even going through the same shit. I've lost all my friends to heroin either cuz I turned into a piece of shit or they're dead/ in jail. Its good to hear you got this shit beat for a year, your girl too. Sounds like you got a few good reasons to live life to its fullest without dope dumbing you. 


@ funkymonk22 again it's good to hear some success stories and of people doing it their own way. I hate the way society or at least my state/country CT,USA handles addiction. If my detox fails I'll be wearing the liquid handcuffs again for the foraeable future but like I said b4 I got into this bullshit myself. I quit b4 for almost 2 years and I can do it again. It's crazy how quick time passes, i just realized I been using OCS Hart right after highschool, and heroin couple years after that, now I'm 29 like what the fuck??


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23744432 - 10/17/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I plan on posting my results on here since I feel you guys are cool as shit, and definitely helped me just by sharing a few kind words and your experiences.. I just wanted to thank you guys again b4 shit hits the fan Thursday and share some positive vibes from earlier today.. actually why I'm dopesick right now.

I saw my girl in rehab today, or yesterday, she waited almost a week for me to come for visitation to open the doctors letter thing that tells the baby's sex... and IT'S A BOY!!! Yeaaaa boyyy!!!

Lol it was a bugged out situation. Try to picture yourselves In a rehab with your girl and her family all congratulating u, throwing out high 5s n shit for knocking up their daughter. Idk maybe I just smoke too much bud sometimes and over analyze shit but I always thought it was kinda funny congratulating people having babys.

I get it i'm just stupid baked rambling but the point was I heard some more good news today and decided to give the dope a rest until I need to goto work in 2.5 hours!!

Until next time fellow funguys


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23744459 - 10/17/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have no advice for you other than to stick at it. I just want to wish you luck and I'm routing for you! You can do it man


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    #23744477 - 10/17/16 04:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23744607 - 10/17/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My babies 3 months OP, and a boy too!

He's my little buddy and so cute he makes me want to cry! All I want is the best for him and a life with addicts would be as pretty much bad a life as you could possibly provide.

You could OD and leave him fatherless, or end up in prison or destitute. Not nice to have to think about I know but its a hell of an incentive to quit and stay that way! Parenthood is the ultimate weapon against human selfishness as you finally find something that you care more about more than yourself!

Wait till he gets to 3 months and starts smiling and laughing and you can see that his eyes now register you as someone he knows! My boy melts my heart and its scary to love something so much. He brings out in me a fierce protective instinct, and I get tears in my eyes just looking at him sometimes!

I'm rooting for ya I know you can do it!

Try to think ahead to Christmas with your family all of you together under the tree your boy giddy with excitement for the coming of MR Clause. Haha for my boy I'm going to make christmas the best damned christmas ever!

You get to live it all again through your kids eyes. Lifes long and tempting though, why not try to move away from where you are now, with old places and people where you know exactly where to score is always going to be difficult.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: wolf8312]
    #23746423 - 10/17/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

@floatingsaiyab thanks for the support I need all the positive vibes I can get. I'm counting down the days until my vacation in hell starts.

@wolf8312 I loved your post, as a 29yo rough and rugged junkie I can honestly say I cried a lil bit when I read that. Those are all things I've thought about and are reasons I'm so OCd and serious about getting clean. Me and my girl are great together and I know we can be great parents together.

I'm so excited for the good times and watching him grow. Coming from a fucked up family and having this chance to start my own is just amazing there's no other word for it. with a little work my life could turn out pretty good.

Not sure of your history with addiction but it's great to hear a story about a happy family. There's too many horror stories everywhere you look and many more in the making.

Thanks for taking the time to stop by chat. We're all connected at shroomery by our love for mindb opening psychedelics and it's a crime against humanity it's not legal. Right now I doubt I'll have any shrooms for my detox as I know they have their place in helping me become the man I want to be.. I shall stay positive tho.

@littlespider don't worry I didn't forget about you! Gracias for taking an interest in my struggle and upcoming resurrection. It's a cold world out there but it warms my heart that there are so many people stopping in to help in any way they can.


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Re: Psychedelics and opiate addiction addiction? Multiple day trip dosing questions [Re: bigben042]
    #23746472 - 10/17/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I really need to make some kind of spreadsheet for dosing the various drugs I've stocked up to help with withdrawls.
For those who are interested here's a rundown.
-3x .1mg clonodine
-approx 500 25mg
-approx 30 300mg gabapentin with hopefully 10-20 more coming friday.
-50x 1mg clonazepam
-48 2mg Imodium
-approx nice chunk of shatter with hopefully some kind of og kush concentrate or bud on the way Friday when I get paid.
-8-10mg Suboxone , not sure if I'll touch that shit.. I need to be off all opiates after my vacation unless it's doctor prescribed.

-3x 5mg Percocet another one I prolly won't touch but with my tolerance these a try pretty much garbage anyway but free is free.
-7x 50mg tramadol
-1x topirimate
- assorted vitamins, st Johns wort, l-tyrosine?? NyQuil, DayQuil, tylenol
-nicotine gum and joy tech ecig thing ( would be nice to quit smoking at the same time)
-heat pad
- movies, books, journel for my many rambling thoughts and maybe to write my girlfriend a nice letter towards the end.
-ginger ale, ginger pills

I've spend alot of time thinking about or planning for this detox and I can't half ass it.

I went almost 2 months I think without seeing my girl because of jail and her new rehab but for the last couple weeks she started getting 3hr visitation sundays that we split between me/her and her/her family. As crazy as I am about her and as much as we miss each other if I'm not successfully into my 3rd day of detox Sunday how can I even look her in the eye?

I'm working my ass off to stay positive but I'm nervous as hell and fuckin terrified of failure. Methadone clinic is plan b but then I gotta get insurance and wear those fuckin liquid handcuffs again. I also only have a week to do all this or I'll most likely lose my job.

Ahhh now it's time for some dabs and leisure!


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