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OfflineSnape
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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367795 - 02/22/04 12:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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Snape... music is also my passion. There will no doubt be many ties to music in this movement. My band will also be writing songs for this.





If we ever organize a big music festival here in Montreal (Idea that's been floating around for a while), I'd be honored if your band accepted to play with us.

I'll keep you in touch.


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I'm floating in the sea of stars,
I'm drifting away from the shore
I will be lost in the dream when the dark days come
But I will make the time run backwards and
I'll make the stars shine again

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367832 - 02/22/04 12:41 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Will this be a violent revolution? Cuz I'm a conscientious objector.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: The Revolution [Re: silversoul7]
    #2367835 - 02/22/04 12:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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silversoul7 said:
Will this be a violent revolution?  Cuz I'm a conscientious objector.




I don't think so.... Violence is not a good way to solve things at all.

I'll be violent in my music, that's for goddamn sure. :wink:


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I'm floating in the sea of stars,
I'm drifting away from the shore
I will be lost in the dream when the dark days come
But I will make the time run backwards and
I'll make the stars shine again

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Snape]
    #2367847 - 02/22/04 12:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I agree- violence is definitely out.

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367870 - 02/22/04 12:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm in.
Can we drink koolaide at the meetings? j/k  :nut:

The only reason I think this could work is if enough people were organized into this, not just random people standing on street corners yelling the truth.
People will not want to give up their system easily, even if they are being supressed.  It's easier to ignore than to affect any real change.  Hell listening is even hard for some. :nonono:
I'm not trying to dampen spirits, just typing what I'm thinking...  How will we convince, educate, or make people understand why we are doing this if they can continue living their life and go to work, feed the kids and have 2 days off work every 5 with the current system and never have sparks of independant thought?
\edit: Confidence will help this

Edited by blinkidiot (02/22/04 12:53 PM)

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Re: The Revolution [Re: silversoul7]
    #2367886 - 02/22/04 12:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

No...violence is not an option. This is a peaceful revolution.


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367896 - 02/22/04 12:53 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

violence is not only not an option, it is contrary to the ideas and goals for which we strive, i believe.


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self-destructive selflessness
seeps out from the core
alone - eyes closed - an empty room
i'm curled on the floor
choose nothing, thus deciding
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Re: The Revolution [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2367906 - 02/22/04 12:56 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

One thing we will have to be ready for is the government already in control... they aren't going to want to give their power up. They like to silence people before they have the oppurtunity to spread the message far and wide.... damn them. :mad:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The Revolution [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2367935 - 02/22/04 01:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe they can keep a portion of their beloved power in a sense, and atleast drastically change the way they use (abuse) it. You are right, they are not going to even want to consider giving up their current position, evidently not even for the benefit of mankind and the planet we are destroying.

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Re: The Revolution [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2367943 - 02/22/04 01:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yes violence is completely contrary to the goals we are striving for.

fireworks... don't worry about the government. If they're gonna mess with anyone, it's gonna be me, seeing as how I live in their backyard... and they already have..I do not fear them, and they cannot intimidate me to silence. In fact we might be able to reach a compromise.


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367974 - 02/22/04 01:10 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Cool.  Then count me in. :cool:


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2367977 - 02/22/04 01:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Well, three more months and I'm back to the Land of the Free.  :rolleyes:

I'm willing to do whatever I need to, even if I have to die.... as long as I knew it was for something good. hehe

But ja, I see this movement as inevitable. Things are severely imbalanced right now and there is going to be a gigantic push to restore the balance.. it is a comfort knowing that there is a Universal force and energy acting through us. :laugh:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Ped]
    #2367989 - 02/22/04 01:15 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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All me must do to accomplish each of these goals is simply decide them for ourselves. Then, we need only to make it clear to others through example why they should make the same decisions.

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More important than numbers, media exposure and so forth is a simple, unshakable sense of confidence.


I make every effort to dispell myths that people may have picked up along the way. My mother is a good example, as she was buying into much of the propaganda perpetuated by the government in order to accomplish its own ideals. The most important thing we can do is reach out and try to educate those who may have been misled, or in the least, offer them a different perspective to ponder (and of course drop many supporting arguments and examples to fuel their change of mind).

A good point was made that no governing body can truly be impartial or 'wise' - but on the converse, a revolution of the scale proposed would likely need some sort of driving force or group of people to manage the movement. Sure the force could simply be the desire to literally live free, but I fear that some may go about manifesting this desire through inappropriate means unless there is excellent communication and discussion as to the group's objectives and ideals. This to me exhibits the need for some sort of governing body to be in the position to distrobute these ideals after they have been agreed upon. The world website idea could perhaps suffice to do this, but of course there will need to be someone controlling the website.

Swami's ideas are great, but they will take a whole lot of work from dedicated personnel to see that everyone is in fact given an equal say in operations. Media attention is a huge factor, but with the ways of our national censors it may be difficult to gain the exposure we need in this arena. However, for what it is worth, I'm in - feel free to call on me for any assistence you may need as I stand by the motives for this revolution and would be willing to dedicate a piece of my life towards it.


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Re: The Revolution [Re: geokills]
    #2368003 - 02/22/04 01:17 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Geokills would make a great leader/wiseman/etc. :thumbup:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The Revolution [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2368014 - 02/22/04 01:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am feeling so very good about this..it can't be wrong.
We are working for the betterment of all
If we leave this world a better place then we found it, we will have done our jobs

I need some time to think about things, organize my thoughts.. etc.
but I shall return later tonight, with a renewed sense of mission

I just want to thank you all for just being willing to be part of this.
I know in my heart that if we go forward with this, we will provoke a positive change.

Peace be with you all!
Unconditional love, and eternal light
Namaste


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Re: The Revolution [Re: geokills]
    #2368023 - 02/22/04 01:20 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368027 - 02/22/04 01:22 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"For I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostlity towards all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."
-Thomas Jefferson

(fat lot of good it did that nigga)

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Re: The Revolution [Re: Shroomism]
    #2368111 - 02/22/04 01:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

See but Swami you are missing my point.

Not at all. Who will be wise enough to choose the wise men? Will it not then be a position of authority (and hence desirable to ego)?

I believe NO SYSTEM will ever work the way you envision. It will take a level of world-wide maturity which is not yet present. The problem is not in the structure, but in the components.


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368117 - 02/22/04 01:45 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I can understand that... so we start with the little things and work our way up. But I do think that we need a solid set of long term goals, if not to replace the system..to at least improve it.


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Re: The Revolution [Re: Swami]
    #2368122 - 02/22/04 01:46 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

humans are not inherently flawed. they are simply living the wrong story.


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egocentrism is bangin on the door
self-destructive selflessness
seeps out from the core
alone - eyes closed - an empty room
i'm curled on the floor
choose nothing, thus deciding
all the nothing i've in store.

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