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Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot?
    #23679070 - 09/26/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pot is schedule 1 and now half the states have legalized it in some form. Do you think we could do the same with kratom?


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: klhouse]
    #23679170 - 09/26/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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klhouse said:
Pot is schedule 1 and now half the states have legalized it in some form. Do you think we could do the same with kratom?



people don't care enough about kratom. I think you could try and say its for "religious purposes". Somehow you can do that for weed I think

if you are above 18 and have a place of your own, try growing it. I assume that its fairly cheap. I will let others who are more experienced/know more about krat jump in here. But based on what I know, growing isn't that hard

Maybe look into the darknet? whole kratom leaf contains a lot of fiber that you wouldn't wanna miss out on. Its practically a green vegetable in and off itself. But you could buy plant extracts the DNM. I am not too sure but I would be surprised if you couldn't find it on the DNM. Kratom has a pretty big subcommunity/culture/demand. I wouldn't be surprised if a DNM opened up exclusively for kratom. There are a few dnm's dedicated to DMT or LSD exclusively


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: topdog82]
    #23679453 - 09/26/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Dunno what good fiber is if the opioid properties encourages constipation.


Also from what I hear growing decent trees outside the tropics is very difficult.


To answer the OP - a shitload of people smoke and grow weed. By the millions, or even 10s of millions, that is not the case with kratom. If it is federally banned there is little chance of keeping it going in the states.


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23679523 - 09/26/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Dunno what good fiber is if the opioid properties encourages constipation.


Also from what I hear growing decent trees outside the tropics is very difficult.


To answer the OP - a shitload of people smoke and grow weed. By the millions, or even 10s of millions, that is not the case with kratom. If it is federally banned there is little chance of keeping it going in the states.




Krat can actually be grown indoors if the right environmental conditions are maintained

"The ideal temperature for growing kratom is between 75 and 90 degrees Fahrenheit. However, most households tend to keep temperatures around 68 degrees. This would be considered similar to low wintertime temperatures in Thailand, but we have found that kratom plants will still grow decently in this range."

I don't know how cost-effective growing it indoors would be but they say it is possible

https://www.worldseedsupply.com/tag/how-to-grow-kratom-indoors/


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23679534 - 09/26/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Id also been told they don't grow well indoors, but it could be that they're just more picky than most plants and people don't understand how to keep its conditions right :ohwell:


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23679553 - 09/26/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OP.

Yeah, I read it is difficult and slow to grow and if you did, you'd have to grow mass quantities to make a batch or two.

I have never had luck searching darknet- Tor. Don't know why. Can't find nothing but stuff I could just buy on Google. Plus, i think I'd have to have bitcoins and I know nothing about that.


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: klhouse]
    #23679664 - 09/26/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't indoor growing difficult because it's like growing a fucking maple tree inside your house? :rofl:

There's this badass house near me that has a tree growing out the middle (might be fake/decorative) but i would get so fucking hard for the rest of my life if i had kratom geowing straight out of my roof.:rofl:


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23679884 - 09/26/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Isn't indoor growing difficult because it's like growing a fucking maple tree inside your house? :rofl:

There's this badass house near me that has a tree growing out the middle (might be fake/decorative) but i would get so fucking hard for the rest of my life if i had kratom geowing straight out of my roof.:rofl:




I grow random ornamental trees as house plants :shrug:


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23680026 - 09/26/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have a novelty pineapple plant. It does great as a baby but as it grows it gets unhappy. Probably because it's a tropical plant that needs way more sun and nutrients as it grows up and out.


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Re: Kratom--Could we go grassroots thru the states like pot? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23680038 - 09/26/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is from the rainforest though where I imagine it gets a lot of diffused light until big enough to compete with the canopy.

Also I have heard it gets a lot of natural stressing in Asia such as harsh winds, dry/ wet spells, probably some serious storms and tons of competition.


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