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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23682868 - 09/27/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Monsanto are the main ones that are trying to get hillary to become president, because she loves money and willing to do anything for it. She is trying to make sure these corporations that pays her, that they are getting their money worth. obama has been doing what they has been asking him to do. Now hillary or Ted were the ones that are supposedly to replace obama, but there were a change in their plans. Trump is not going to enforce the Trade agreement because he doesn't like. And so they are trying to trick him into going along with it by playing mind games with him. In the debate, it seem as if hillary was nervous but trying to pretend that she knows what she is doing. But really she doesn't know nothing. corporate america has been controlling them, even obama down to the bushs' and so they doesn't know nothing about economics, but only enforces what corporate america tells them to enforce. They know that Trump is the only one that knows what corporate america has been doing because he is a businessman that has been keeping up the economy. But the rest just has been taking their orders and money from corporate america, but not knowing what they are doing. But that is why hillary has brought Mark Cuban, a businessman, along to coach her on what to say so that she can pretend that she knows about how the business world works.


Q: What would you do differently than a Pres. Obama would when it comes to the economy?
A: I would agree with Obama a lot, because it is the Democratic agenda. We are going to rid the tax code of these loopholes & giveaways. We’re going to stop giving penny of your money to anybody who ships a job out to another country. We’re going to begin to get the tax code to reflect what the needs of middle class families are so we can rebuild a strong & prosperous middle class. The wealthy & the well-connected have had a president the last 7 years, and it’s time that the rest of the US had a president to work for you every single day. We will have a different approach toward trade. We’re going to start having trade agreements that not only have strong environmental and labor standards, but also a trade time-out. We’re going to look and see what’s working & what’s not working. I’d like to have a trade prosecutor to actually enforce the trade agreements that we have before we enter into any others. http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Hillary_Clinton_Free_Trade.htm

Guatemala defies ‘Monsanto Law’ pushed by US as part of trade agreement https://www.rt.com/usa/184833-guatemala-monsanto-trade-seeds/


Tell Hillary Clinton to fire Monsanto lobbyist Jack Crawford from her Iowa state campaign.

Since stepping down as Secretary of State, Clinton has spoken out in favor of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and established herself as a friend of the biotech industry. But by hiring one of Monsanto's political hitmen, she's taken it a step further.

Iowa is an ultra-rural state in the midwest US, and it is the very first state to weigh in on the US Presidential election. In order to get elected, Clinton is going to be spending an awfully large amount of time traversing the state, meeting with farmers and hearing from them about how the US President can improve their lives.

With a GMO lobbyist who has earned over $1.6 million from Monsanto embedded in her campaign, the most toxic corporation on Earth will have direct access to a potential President of the United States, helping to shape her policies on everything from corporate farm subsidies to seed patents. And those farmers she stops to meet along the way -- want to bet they'll be champions of Monsanto's policies, rather than family farmers fighting tooth and nail to hold onto their farm in the face of growing corporate control of farming? https://actions.sumofus.org/a/hillary-monsanto-lobbyist


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23682916 - 09/27/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420] * 3
    #23682937 - 09/27/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What makes you think he doesnt have credibility?

Again, he promised to endorse the winner of the Democratic race were it not himself. He stuck to his word.

Bernie is literally so honorable that no one can comprehend it. Or so it seems.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23682981 - 09/27/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What makes you think he doesnt have credibility?

Again, he promised to endorse the winner of the Democratic race were it not himself. He stuck to his word.

Bernie is literally so honorable that no one can comprehend it. Or so it seems.




What you call honor and credibility I call cowardice.


Fuck the democrats it's bigger than parties. The thing is he is a blowhard, a rather convincing one, but still just all talk like all the other liberals.

The DNC fucked him, and he is standing behind Clinton, he could have ended her presidential run but he's a pussy.



What credibility does he have? He fell in line behind the pro war politician. Ya both trump and Hillary suck but fuck Clinton has 30-40 years of sucking and 8 years of shit.

I can't believe trump didn't mention glass steagall


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23682984 - 09/27/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Democratic scocialsm"

And then he gets behind Clinton

lolwut, you fucking tool


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420]
    #23683007 - 09/27/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23683069 - 09/27/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hillary was in full robot mode during the debate, and sounded like she was reading from a script when responding to Trump. On more than one occasion it looked as if she was getting fed what to say through an earpiece. Not surprising at all, but I think people tune out when someone drones on like a robot. 

  She looked confused and out of it with her fake smiling at inappropriate times. As if she doesn't know what situation a normal person smiles. At 12:52 she's either confused as hell(as usual) or listening to someone on an earpiece.

HILLARY CLINTON vs DONALD TRUMP



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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23683085 - 09/27/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.





That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #23683086 - 09/27/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

oh some of her laughs and shit were completely out of left-field (pun acquired). it sounded like she was literally being given blows that made her feel genuinely concerned.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23683098 - 09/27/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.



i really don't give a fuck about him not catering to what people want him to do. he's done, he's out. it's understandable that he doesn't want to make enemies. he didn't have to even do anything. he could have just been unconcerned, never ran, never cared. :shrug: he could have been fine with the same ole' shit, because it's what's expected. i can imagine, for myself, if i was given the shaft like he was, i could imagine becoming quite disillusioned; frankly, i don't know Sanders' state of mind, nor his literal motive for his actions. this is why i don't give a fuck...and i won't ever give a fuck about politics like this. he could be an absolute shit head, but how do i know how and why, especially if it's never shown. and who cares? as long as he isn't a fucking evil fuck, doing fucked up shit, i don't care...people make mistakes, literally, everyone. and don't act like you don't know that's not true.

i'm not even an apologist. i have no stakes in this shit. none.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23683120 - 09/27/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya he's a fucking pussy that didn't mean anything he said.
Duh


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420]
    #23683127 - 09/27/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

why the fuck isn't there like a shit ton of people doing politics? you people make me sick. :lol:  honestly it makes me feel ill even being involved at all. there is a reason i hate getting involved in stupid dumb societal bullshit. why don't you fucking campaign? you loud mouths. :lolsy:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23683139 - 09/27/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.




He's already standing up with Liz Warren to block any Wall St appointees from her administration.


Recognizing the threat of Truml doesnt necessarily make someone a Hillary fan. I dont understand why peopls cant separate the two. Bernie couldve went all Ted Cruz, then hed be derided for his movement ending in a horrible fashion, and would have absolutely nothing to show for it.

People lambasting Bernie's endorsement never supported him or paid attention in the first place.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420] * 1
    #23683143 - 09/27/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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elax420 said:
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akira_akuma said:
Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.





That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.




He endorsed Canova, campaigned for him, and gave his campaign Bernie's email and donor list.

You are consistently misinformed about Bernie. Not surprisimg, considering the media blackout.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23683194 - 09/27/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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elax420 said:
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akira_akuma said:
Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.




He's already standing up with Liz Warren to block any Wall St appointees from her administration.


Recognizing the threat of Truml doesnt necessarily make someone a Hillary fan. I dont understand why peopls cant separate the two. Bernie couldve went all Ted Cruz, then hed be derided for his movement ending in a horrible fashion, and would have absolutely nothing to show for it.

People lambasting Bernie's endorsement never supported him or paid attention in the first place.




this, I don't think Bernie was being weak to endorse Hillary over Trump. He did after all say he would from the get go, and to chose Clinton over Trump is not to say she's even desirable as a leader, simply less shit than Trump which is regrettable but it's what we got


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23683259 - 09/27/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:

Sanders proposed the same idea. :shrug: the message is important...like false impressions are important.





Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.



he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.





That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.




He endorsed Canova, campaigned for him, and gave his campaign Bernie's email and donor list.

You are consistently misinformed about Bernie. Not surprisimg, considering the media blackout.





You are full of more shit than Bernie.


He only supported canova back in like April.

When the race actually mattered and Dws was pulling out people like Obama, Bernie was silent

Nothing about the leaks


Fuck Bernie and fuck his liberal apologists. You guys deserve trump.

The democrats are way worse than the republicans. Clinton's little cunt daughter spoke today abou how there is anecdotal evidence of marijuana being fatal. Yet you support these lying fucks


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23683261 - 09/27/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's bullshit too,

Give me one reason to vote for Clinton.


Man the Cold War was sweet, let's pick another fight with an autocratic militarist that has a more aggressive and advanced military than our own. That's gonna be a great idea


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420]
    #23683288 - 09/27/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you're not giving anyone reason to rail against Sanders. name one thing that he's done that's fucked someone over.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23683337 - 09/27/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't give a fuck what you think about Bernie, I'm telling you why I don't like him.


Ultimately he did nothing but hurt Clinton, which is stupid because he later supported her, so wtf was the point of Bernie?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 1
    #23683344 - 09/27/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That was a thoroughly awful debate performance from Trump. I'm not just saying that to bash Trump, almost every article from political analysts including those in the republican party have said the same thing. That was a legitimately terrible performance. Some people are calling it among the worst debate performances of modern times, and I can't say I disagree.

I mean, his response to paying no income tax was "that makes me smart"? What the fuck kind of response is that. He got flustered, and half of his comments were him almost talking over himself and rambling. The whole ending monologue he gave was just a complete rambling trainwreck.

He did good in the first 15 minutes, but man after that he just fell apart.


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