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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23816355 - 11/09/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So, in all seriousness, I'd like to point out that I predicted the election more accurately than anyone on the Shroomery.




in all seriousness, your medal is in the mail.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Rahz] * 1
    #23816377 - 11/09/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Most white males I know are more concerned with behavior than skin color.




while attributing behaviour with skin colour? or not? Can I have some examples as I'm unclear as to what you mean.

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That reality get's spun into all kinds of nasty words. Having a problem with a majority of Muslims wanting Sharia law translates into religious intolerance.



When you say that the "majority of Muslims want Sharia law".. what does that mean?
Sharia does not supersede the law. Do you mean they want it to supersede the law?
Do you know what Sharia is?

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Avoiding the black scene translates into racism, never mind that fact that the same people will also avoid hanging out with racist rednecks.




What do you mean "the black scene"?

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But none of that matters because people need something to hate. There are examples of groups who have very close genetics and common religious ground and they will still find a way to murder each other.




I dont think they need something to hate, its just easy to encourage hatred.

Perhaps you could give the examples youre referring to?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote] * 3
    #23816454 - 11/09/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



that slimey bastard netanyahu is the first world leader to meet Trump after his election. Lets see how "neutral" Trump is going to be.... :facepalm:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
    #23816467 - 11/09/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

jfc...

I'm at a loss, and for once I'm pretty sure it isn't due to benzo withdrawal.

Clinton got one thing right in her speech... America is more divided than any of us thought.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10] * 3
    #23816476 - 11/09/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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"Congratulations"

Yesterday you said my prediction was "doubtful."

Get wrecked?




yesterday i had serious doubts about the likelihood of your prediction.

congratulations on correctly predicting the outcome of that election.

hold onto that smug sense of accomplishment for as long as you can, because you're likely to be crying the obama supporter blues in a few years here.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
    #23816588 - 11/09/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Edited by ChemicalSpark (03/23/20 08:59 PM)


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
    #23816591 - 11/09/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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while attributing behaviour with skin colour?




It's not usually white people that equate being civilized with "acting white". That being said, I could care less about the slang involved, it's the "kill whitey" attitude I find disconcerting.

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Sharia does not supersede the law.




You do realize that in practice your comment is an opinion, and does not prevent others from having a different opinion or acting on it.

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What do you mean "the black scene"?




The general bias of shunning people who act "too white", Citing "boring, stiff, blah blah etc." as though one person's mode of existence is inferior, when in actuality if liberty isn't being infringed such comments are direct indicators of bigotry if not racism.

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I dont think they need something to hate, its just easy to encourage hatred.

Perhaps you could give the examples youre referring to?




There are plenty of examples through history of ethnic cleansing by people who are hardly different on the outside, and barely difference on the inside. I could site Sunni/Shia but to provide a single example would not do the topic justice. I disagree, but if it's true that it's just easy to encourage hatred it doesn't change much... but it follows that if it's "easy" to encourage hatred then people generally want/need something to hate. It should also be considered that those who promote the hatred are part of the group we're calling "people".


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23816657 - 11/09/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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hold onto that smug sense of accomplishment for as long as you can, because you're likely to be crying the obama supporter blues in a few years here.




Regardless of what may come, I suspect you can admit it's difficult to not be a little smug about it. I've held my tongue for the last 12 months through all the "Trump can't possibly win the nomination", "The chance of him winning the Presidency is exactly zero", "Hillary will be our next President. It's a reality you will have to deal with on election day" *smug*.

So in the spirit of letting it out, here is my one smug comment in reply to the medias message of the last year.

:haha:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Rahz] * 2
    #23816956 - 11/09/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

like i said, enjoy it while you can.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23817203 - 11/09/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
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Tipote said:
that slimey bastard netanyahu is the first world leader to meet Trump after his election. Lets see how "neutral" Trump is going to be.... :facepalm:




Now that is actually pretty scary.

EDIT: But come to think about it, it's not like Hillary wouldn't have done the same thing...




Exactly. If it had been Sanders vs Trump, I would be severely depressed right now. Clinton vs Trump.. Meh.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #23818592 - 11/10/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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ChemicalSpark said:
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Tipote said:
that slimey bastard netanyahu is the first world leader to meet Trump after his election. Lets see how "neutral" Trump is going to be.... :facepalm:




Now that is actually pretty scary.

EDIT: But come to think about it, it's not like Hillary wouldn't have done the same thing...




Exactly. If it had been Sanders vs Trump, I would be severely depressed right now. Clinton vs Trump.. Meh.




I agree Clinton is firmly up the ass of the Israeli elites but there is a shift in her party platform because of Bernie. Even pre-Bernie, I think Clinton still gives lip service at least to the two state solution.

Personally I think the two state solution has been dead for a while now.. but with Trump that one state solution could take any form. He is OK with large annexations of the West Bank and more settlements.. I don't think Clinton has said anything like that.. but I also agree that since she is bought and paid for, who knows what she would have done.

Top Trump Adviser: Israeli Settlements Don't Pose 'Obstacle to Peace'


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Rahz] * 2
    #23819618 - 11/10/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You do realize that in practice your comment is an opinion, and does not prevent others from having a different opinion or acting on it.



No i meant that where it is practiced in Europe it does not have legal authority behind it. It actually serves many functions one of which is to help Muslim women leave domestically abusive marriages. If they are religious they need the blessing of the sharia courts to get out.

where it is practiced in muslim-majority parts of the world Sharia can vary in interpretation and application.  Some places its interpreted in a very extreme ultraconservative way and in other places it is used as a guide to varying degrees from which to base laws.

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The general bias of shunning people who act "too white", Citing "boring, stiff, blah blah etc." as though one person's mode of existence is inferior, when in actuality if liberty isn't being infringed such comments are direct indicators of bigotry if not racism.



Can you imagine what it must be like to be on the receiving end of that bigotry when there is a power structure supporting and maintaining it?

I agree those kind of comments are a crass and wrong. but what white people often don't understand about racism is that the power structure makes all the difference. Its not ok but you can understand why there would be race jibes back to whites. Its like blacks have to shut up in the face of racism but whites get to call the racism card every time they stub their toe.

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There are plenty of examples through history of ethnic cleansing by people who are hardly different on the outside, and barely difference on the inside. I could site Sunni/Shia but to provide a single example would not do the topic justice. I disagree, but if it's true that it's just easy to encourage hatred it doesn't change much... but it follows that if it's "easy" to encourage hatred then people generally want/need something to hate. It should also be considered that those who promote the hatred are part of the group we're calling "people".




To be clear - you are saying that haterz gona hate? there will be people hating.. ? Im getting lost.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
    #23819639 - 11/10/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hopefully Palestine gets plowed under, that would show those dirty terrorists what's up

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
    #23820049 - 11/10/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No i meant that where it is practiced in Europe it does not have legal authority behind it. It actually serves many functions one of which is to help Muslim women leave domestically abusive marriages. If they are religious they need the blessing of the sharia courts to get out.

where it is practiced in muslim-majority parts of the world Sharia can vary in interpretation and application.  Some places its interpreted in a very extreme ultraconservative way and in other places it is used as a guide to varying degrees from which to base laws.




There are already laws that are legally binding to help women leave domestically abusive marriages. Being subservient to a system based on a sky daddy who's pedophile prophet rode to heaven on a magic horse is something to get over, not promote. Such an irrational basis for a legal system is doomed to failure and there are blocks of people in Europe who would like to see legal Sharia zones.

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Can you imagine what it must be like to be on the receiving end of that bigotry when there is a power structure supporting and maintaining it?




There's a minority in power who tend to hate the poor regardless of color. Bringing color into it and condemning all white people is a bad move and generally makes regular white people wary of black people. It's also a good example for your next question.

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To be clear - you are saying that haterz gona hate? there will be people hating.. ? Im getting lost.




And you're suggesting people are too much like lemmings to decide whether they should listen to hateful speech? If people can't help but soak up hate speech, then they are prone to being hateful and they have been falling for it for millennia. Considering that people are prone to hate is a natural conclusion to that reality.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23820087 - 11/10/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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like i said, enjoy it while you can.




You misunderstand. A year long of smugness from the media and I can't help but laugh when their illusions crumbled and the crying started. Besides, Trump is warm on Russia and business like towards China. That's a large part of why he was elected and people saw that even though the media was screaming about how Trump will lead us into a nuclear war... meanwhile there has been a cold war brewing during the Obama administration and the Mid-East is still a cluster fuck. Maybe millions of undocumented immigrants will be deported and Trump will actually build a tight security perimeter. Life will go on. 1 out of 3 Hispanic voters actually voted for Trump so I suspect if the deportations happen the collective crying will be much quieter on this side of the fence. I'm sure you can come up with other issues for why Trump will be a disaster, but I'm doubtful he'll be the monster the Clinton campaign, the DNC and the media has made him out to be.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Rahz] * 3
    #23820609 - 11/10/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

my original, and only, point was that Trump will fail to deliver to his base, in the same way that Obama failed to deliver to his base.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23820894 - 11/10/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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my original, and only, point was that Trump will fail to deliver to his base, in the same way that Obama failed to deliver to his base.




That's gotta be true.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23820898 - 11/10/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If zappaisgod was still alive you think he'd have voted for Trump?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: imachavel]
    #23820916 - 11/10/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lets get one thing straight.  Politics will always be politics.  Trumps just a man.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23821051 - 11/10/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

^

Politics really are for the birds...

I mean, that's why we're who we are, right?

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