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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
#23814746 - 11/09/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this a concede from Hillary or is it just past her bed time?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: GabbaDj]
#23814749 - 11/09/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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She's packing her bags for a life on the lam.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
#23814759 - 11/09/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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amp244 said: I can't help myself. This is too ridiculous. I'm getting all excited, despite the fact that I honestly believe these elections are charades. They are calling for a Trump victory, and that makes me a little nervous. I don't see the establishment allowing this to happen without an ulterior motive.
Lol, that's hilarious. The establishment clearly wants Hillary to win.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence]
#23814771 - 11/09/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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All I know is that people on here were saying that the polls were not biased, or false, and that Hillary was winning in every poll. Those same people were also saying that the presidential general election is not rigged...
...Well the polls had Clinton leading, and Trump won the General election.
So which one was a total lie?
And for the record, Trump better not punk out on any of his promises. He lit a fucking fire under the nation's ass. He's not going to get off the hook without delivering.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
#23814779 - 11/09/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Koods on suicide watch. God Bless.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
#23814798 - 11/09/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump wins. I lost 100 bucks
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence]
#23814806 - 11/09/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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amp244 said: I can't help myself. This is too ridiculous. I'm getting all excited, despite the fact that I honestly believe these elections are charades. They are calling for a Trump victory, and that makes me a little nervous. I don't see the establishment allowing this to happen without an ulterior motive.
Lol, that's hilarious. The establishment clearly wants Hillary to win.
Yea I know. The fact that she didn't win means that the establishment may try something drastic... Trump was allowed to get on t.v. and say the things he said. The establishment controls what is on the television, as is evidenced by the fact that the media has placed blackouts on many things, such as building 7 on 9/11. Its hard for me to believe that if they didn't want him saying those things, they would be allowing him to say them on national television.
I am under the impression that all of these elections are simply charades. That's why I said it is hard for me to believe that the establishment would allow this without an ulterior motive...Get it?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
#23814846 - 11/09/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if Trump is as much of as a dick as he seems? By that I mean that, will he stand up to all of his friends in business and tell them that he cant give them favors as president, or will he just be a buddy and a cheat?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: GabbaDj]
#23814850 - 11/09/16 01:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Almost nothing you believe is actually true.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] 2
#23814938 - 11/09/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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amp244 said: All I know is that people on here were saying that the polls were not biased, or false, and that Hillary was winning in every poll. Those same people were also saying that the presidential general election is not rigged...
...Well the polls had Clinton leading, and Trump won the General election.
So which one was a total lie?
Neither. Hillary had more supporters, but Trump had more people show up to vote.
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amp244 said: And for the record, Trump better not punk out on any of his promises. He lit a fucking fire under the nation's ass. He's not going to get off the hook without delivering.
I don't really trust him because he's screwed so many people over, but I'll hold him to his promises as well (at least the non racist ones).
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: She never drew the kind of support Bernie did. Democrats blew it.
aint that the truth
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote] 1
#23815284 - 11/09/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trumps got a hell of a lot of bullshit promises to deliver on.
at least i hope this means people are more engaged with politics and that the reaction to Trump will put a lot of pressure on him to represent everyone.
I fear that, just like after Brexit, some xenophobes will have confidence to act out against minorities. They will feel vindicated from this despite the many reasons people voted for Drumpf.
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Trump wins.
These things don't happen in a vacuum.
People need to wake up.
There were no accidents, no mistakes.
Either vote was a bad deal. And that's assuming your vote actually mattered in rigged politics.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote] 1
#23815352 - 11/09/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tipote said: Trumps got a hell of a lot of bullshit promises to deliver on.
at least i hope this means people are more engaged with politics and that the reaction to Trump will put a lot of pressure on him to represent everyone.
I fear that, just like after Brexit, some xenophobes will have confidence to act out against minorities. They will feel vindicated from this despite the many reasons people voted for Drumpf.
If not wanting a bunch of people swarming your country and drastically raising the crime rates makes someone a xenophobe..then call me a xenophobe
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
#23815358 - 11/09/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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amp244 said: I can't help myself. This is too ridiculous. I'm getting all excited, despite the fact that I honestly believe these elections are charades. They are calling for a Trump victory, and that makes me a little nervous. I don't see the establishment allowing this to happen without an ulterior motive.
Lol, that's hilarious. The establishment clearly wants Hillary to win.
Yea I know. The fact that she didn't win means that the establishment may try something drastic... Trump was allowed to get on t.v. and say the things he said. The establishment controls what is on the television, as is evidenced by the fact that the media has placed blackouts on many things, such as building 7 on 9/11. Its hard for me to believe that if they didn't want him saying those things, they would be allowing him to say them on national television.
I am under the impression that all of these elections are simply charades. That's why I said it is hard for me to believe that the establishment would allow this without an ulterior motive...Get it?
I got you. Maybe they just had to let this one slide because so many people know about Hillary's dirty secrets. Maybe they actually feared some kind of backlash if she won, who knows
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#23815422 - 11/09/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tipote said: Trumps got a hell of a lot of bullshit promises to deliver on.
at least i hope this means people are more engaged with politics and that the reaction to Trump will put a lot of pressure on him to represent everyone.
I fear that, just like after Brexit, some xenophobes will have confidence to act out against minorities. They will feel vindicated from this despite the many reasons people voted for Drumpf.
If not wanting a bunch of people swarming your country and drastically raising the crime rates makes someone a xenophobe..then call me a xenophobe 
maybe learn to read entire posts?
I said, "despite the many reasons people voted from Drumpf" - this suggests that not everyone who voted for him is a racist, nazi, misogynist etc. It was the same in the UK with Brexit. I know plenty of people who don't have a racist bone in their body who voted to leave but i hope you can understand the concept that bigots feel vindicated by a vote in their favour, as though everyone else voted how and why they did. This makes retarded racists, xenophobes etc to come out and attack minorities. The increase in violence against foreigners during the campaign, and straight after was significant.
People in the UK, EU, US etc etc all have genuine and legitimate concerns about things like immigration, the economy etc etc which have not been addressed by either of the mainstream parties, this is exactly why we are seeing the rise of the far-right in Europe (see the huge thread of the same name). I have two half sisters, who aren't very bright, but they will be voting for the national front in France..because the national front is the only party taking legitimate (and illegitimate) immigration concerns seriously.. People with legitimate concerns inevitably join a movement that addresses their concerns - even if that party is extremist/racist in its rhetoric...or had a history of welcoming the Nazis to France and backstabbing the resistance against occupation.....
Knowing whether concerns are legitimate or not come down to the reasoning behind it and the evidence supporting it. If you think immigrants can be a burden on the healthcare system for example, there might be evidence to support that. If on the other hand you dont want brown people because however many generations they live in the country you don't recognise them as British/American, and you believe they are therefore undeserving leeches because they aren't really your countrymen because they aren't white..then that suggests an illegitimate concern. To pretend racism and a whole bunch of prejudicial -isms aren't very relevant here is just as stupid as assuming that every Trump supporter is a frothing-at-the-mouth nazi. You have to appreciate that even though it is put under different terminology, white men in the UK and the US are incredibly butthurt that they are losing what they see as their entitled position of power in society. This clearly has strong hints of white supremacy whether it is conscious or not. Are you surprised white supremacists have backed Trump?? Or are you thinking they just have fair and legitimate concerns?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
#23815446 - 11/09/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tipote said: Trumps got a hell of a lot of bullshit promises to deliver on.
at least i hope this means people are more engaged with politics and that the reaction to Trump will put a lot of pressure on him to represent everyone.
I fear that, just like after Brexit, some xenophobes will have confidence to act out against minorities. They will feel vindicated from this despite the many reasons people voted for Drumpf.
If not wanting a bunch of people swarming your country and drastically raising the crime rates makes someone a xenophobe..then call me a xenophobe 
maybe learn to read entire posts?
I said, "despite the many reasons people voted from Drumpf" - this suggests that not everyone who voted for him is a racist, nazi, misogynist etc. It was the same in the UK with Brexit. I know plenty of people who don't have a racist bone in their body who voted to leave but i hope you can understand the concept that bigots feel vindicated by a vote in their favour, as though everyone else voted how and why they did. This makes retarded racists, xenophobes etc to come out and attack minorities. The increase in violence against foreigners during the campaign, and straight after was significant.
People in the UK, EU, US etc etc all have genuine and legitimate concerns about things like immigration, the economy etc etc which have not been addressed by either of the mainstream parties, this is exactly why we are seeing the rise of the far-right in Europe (see the huge thread of the same name). I have two half sisters, who aren't very bright, but they will be voting for the national front in France..because the national front is the only party taking legitimate (and illegitimate) immigration concerns seriously.. People with legitimate concerns inevitably join a movement that addresses their concerns - even if that party is extremist/racist in its rhetoric...or had a history of welcoming the Nazis to France and backstabbing the resistance against occupation.....
Knowing whether concerns are legitimate or not come down to the reasoning behind it and the evidence supporting it. If you think immigrants can be a burden on the healthcare system for example, there might be evidence to support that. If on the other hand you dont want brown people because however many generations they live in the country you don't recognise them as British/American, and you believe they are therefore undeserving leeches because they aren't really your countrymen because they aren't white..then that suggests an illegitimate concern. To pretend racism and a whole bunch of prejudicial -isms aren't very relevant here is just as stupid as assuming that every Trump supporter is a frothing-at-the-mouth nazi. You have to appreciate that even though it is put under different terminology, white men in the UK and the US are incredibly butthurt that they are losing what they see as their entitled position of power in society. This clearly has strong hints of white supremacy whether it is conscious or not. Are you surprised white supremacists have backed Trump?? Or are you thinking they just have fair and legitimate concerns?
It's called a backlash, you can thank the Jewish liberal media and people like yourself for this outcome.
You can't push an agenda down peoples throats and then be surprised when they start gagging on it.
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#23815563 - 11/09/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: It's called a backlash, you can thank the Jewish liberal media and people like yourself for this outcome.
You can't push an agenda down peoples throats and then be surprised when they start gagging on it.
so you want to thank me for Trump getting elected? Why? what did I do?? Not hate muslims by default?
Yes, i agree - its a backlash to not address legitimate and some illegitimate concerns and get a strong reaction. Where would I be without you?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Tipote]
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qman said: It's called a backlash, you can thank the Jewish liberal media and people like yourself for this outcome.
You can't push an agenda down peoples throats and then be surprised when they start gagging on it.
so you want to thank me for Trump getting elected? Why? what did I do?? Not hate muslims by default?
Yes, i agree - its a backlash to not address legitimate and some illegitimate concerns and get a strong reaction. Where would I be without you?
"what did I do?"
You slandered people that disagreed with your radical policy ideas, you see when you call people racist, sexist, xenophobic and bigots for no valid reason other than speculation, you create a very strong counter movement.
I know it's fun to use those labels when other people don't see the world like you do, but those actions come with major consequences. Hillary called half of US citizens "deplorable", that action had major consequences.
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