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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 2
    #23799969 - 11/04/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Imagine the pom pom waving if this was Trump's economic recovery.

"He's a business GENIUS! America is great again! All the unemployed, underemployed, and debt ridden are just lazy libs who wont work anyway."


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23799988 - 11/04/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Imagine the pom pom waving if this was Trump's economic recovery.

"He's a business GENIUS! America is great again! All the unemployed, underemployed, and debt ridden are just lazy libs who wont work anyway."




That might be the case in some corners, but as someone who just looks at the economic facts, I wouldn't go down that road.

Fal has been a supporter of this economic "recovery" since day one, I'm not sure where his thesis really comes from, but his loyalty to Obama has been pretty strong until very recently.

Here's a little secret I going to admit to today, I don't want Trump to win and get blamed for what is coming economically in the next 4 years. I will still vote for him, but I want Hillary in the White House when another round of bailouts come as US citizens are hurting. 

It doesn't matter who's in office, what's coming is coming regardless of who's in office.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman] * 1
    #23800018 - 11/04/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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as someone who just looks at the economic facts






:lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy::lolsy:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800034 - 11/04/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman]
    #23800186 - 11/04/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You wouldnt be disappointed if unemployment rose.

Like you said, you hope Hillary wins so you can continue to cheer on America's decline.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23800195 - 11/04/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
You wouldnt be disappointed if unemployment rose.

Like you said, you hope Hillary wins so you can continue to cheer on America's decline.




Unfortunately, the decline is coming regardless who's in office, I never blamed Obama for this mess.

"cheer on America's decline"

Being intellectually honest about the decline isn't cheering it on, as a Bernie supporter you also have plenty of complaints about the current state of affairs.

I said I don't want Trump to get the blame, that's not cheering on an inevitable downturn.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman] * 2
    #23800240 - 11/04/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thats not the point.

Youd rather see America crash and burn under Obama or Hillary than it rebound. Youd rather be right than America succeed.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800263 - 11/04/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Thats not the point.

Youd rather see America crash and burn under Obama or Hillary than it rebound. Youd rather be right than America succeed.




You're full of shit, Obama has nothing to do with the massive wealth inequality we are seeing today, it took decades of shitty policies to get here.

Why would I want to see it crash and burn under a Democratic President?  They don't even govern so how would the be accountable for the outcome?

Where are these "liberal" policies to blame it on?  :lol:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800284 - 11/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Obviously youre not getting it.


It has nothing to do with whether obama or democrats or liberal policies are to blame.

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Thats not the point.

Youd rather see America crash and burn under Obama or Hillary than it rebound. Youd rather be right than America succeed.




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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800299 - 11/04/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're not making any sense again, give it a rest already. If you have a valid point, make it.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman]
    #23800312 - 11/04/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know how to put it any more simply. Sorry.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800597 - 11/04/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're a Hillary voter


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23800600 - 11/04/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Damn. You got me.

/thread

Ill go delete my account.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23800613 - 11/04/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No. You can stay. Just swallow your pride and do the right thing.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23800634 - 11/04/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it really doesnt make a difference who wins.  its not like the 'destroy america' plan is going to get put on hold or anything. 

and our rights and the few shitty moral values we have left will continue to be jeopardized and sold to the highest bidder so don't worry.


It's all bullshit anyway.  People love bullshit though.  Almost as much as the corn they feed us.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: sprinkles]
    #23800641 - 11/04/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hillary is a satanist.

"Spirit cooking"


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23800671 - 11/04/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

good ol' conspiracy NWO Illuminati is coming full circle now lmfao. I jest, but still.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23800675 - 11/04/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's fucked. None of this is news to me. But it's a shock to see it seeping into the mainstream consciousness so rapidly all the sudden.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23800676 - 11/04/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah well, its called the internet, and those old dinosaurs underestimated it - and the general population is way stronger and smarter then they had hoped . As long as we can keep it mostly free, theres always hope for the future.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman]
    #23800899 - 11/04/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Over 10 million jobs were created
Unemployment went down 5%
Corporate profits are up 15%
The stock market is up over 150%
GDP per capita is back to normal

Ya, I'd say the economy has improved.



Yet, GDP remains weak, demand remains weak, credit growth remains weak, wages remain weak and debt levels continue to soar higher.



I've already shown that GDP per capita is normal, not weak, and dept/GDP growth is down.

Demand is rising:



And credit growth is strong:




I agree with you that wages are weak, but it has nothing to do with the economy, as has been proven to you about 3 dozen times now.


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