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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23797362 - 11/03/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're so cucked for democrats that you can't even see that your primary system is just so much less democratic than the republicans system. Your system is so bad it ranges from using super delegates, appointing heads of the DNC that leak questions to the establishment candidate before a debate, the DNC actively favoring one candidate to committing voter fraud on a mass scale.
Sucks to be a democrat. As an American, I actually want my voice heard.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
#23797401 - 11/03/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Yet only the craziest of the crazy sites posts the story after the media has had several days to study it. Some papers are now debunking it, but most aren't even wasting their time on it because it was never real news to begin with.
Yet you fail to offer any alternate explanation for why the machines wouldn't count votes as whole integers. I don't give a fuck what you think about media coverage. Either address my post head on or don't even bother.
read the article

Here's the obvious key takeaway from that article:
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Of course, anybody who can sit down to the master tabulating computer and run his or her own code on that computer can change vote counts, or change the name of a candidate to "Anthony Weiner", or add a ballot question for favorite ice cream flavor and rig that vote for "dirty dishwater". And this is the one and only fact the cockamamie "Fraction Magic" video proves: If a bad guy has unrestricted physical access to the vote counting computer, it's not a valid election anymore.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10]
#23797600 - 11/03/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: "The primaries are rigged!"
..."they tried to push trump out but couldnt!"
Stop crying because the DNC primaries were vastly more rigged than the RNC primaries were. Also, Bernie had less genuine support than Trump.
Is everything you say just made up on the spot? Trump is nowhere near Bernie in popularity:
(I can't get the graph to load right now, but here's a link to it)
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
#23797664 - 11/03/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are a variety of numeric variables, their proper usage depends on the way the code is built, and yes, there are a number of reasons votes might be stored with many 0's after the decimal point. Eg.) b/c a certain operation might only be accurate if the inputs and outputs are the same variable-type or memory size.
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There are four distinct numeric types: plain integers, long integers, floating point numbers, and complex numbers. In addition, Booleans are a subtype of plain integers. Plain integers (also just called integers) are implemented using long in C, which gives them at least 32 bits of precision. Long integers have unlimited precision. Floating point numbers are implemented using double in C. All bets on their precision are off unless you happen to know the machine you are working with.
Complex numbers have a real and imaginary part, which are each implemented using double in C. To extract these parts from a complex number z, use z.real and z.imag.
https://docs.python.org/2.4/lib/typesnumeric.html
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The Ecstatic said: "The primaries are rigged!"
..."they tried to push trump out but couldnt!"
Stop crying because the DNC primaries were vastly more rigged than the RNC primaries were. Also, Bernie had less genuine support than Trump.
Is everything you say just made up on the spot? Trump is nowhere near Bernie in popularity:
(I can't get the graph to load right now, but here's a link to it)
Is everything you say an obfuscation with the HUFFPO of all newspapers to back your claim up with? I'm talking about actual support, not phony support in general election polls.
Bernie barely got 12 million votes in the primaries and was essentially running against one other viable candidate. It actually brings me shame that I have to refer to HRC as viable. Trump got over 13 million easily. That's one million more votes, and there were 3-5 other viable candidates that all got over a few millions votes each. Trump had more genuine support than Bernie. There's just no denying it.
Also, I noticed that you cherry picked the last and most irrelevant part of my post. You don't care to argue about the Dem primaries being more rigged then the Rep primaries? Is that an admission by omission I'm sensing?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10]
#23797753 - 11/03/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Is everything you say an obfuscation with the HUFFPO of all newspapers to back your claim up with? I'm talking about actual support, not phony support in general election polls.
You obviously didn't read the link. It was a consolidation of all polls, including Fox News. If you have any evidence that Trump has more support than Bernie, please post it. Showing that Trump is more popular than Republican candidates doesn't prove your point.
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Webster10 said: I noticed that you cherry picked the last and most irrelevant part of my post. You don't care to argue about the Dem primaries being more rigged then the Rep primaries? Is that an admission by omission I'm sensing?
I posted many times that Bernie got screwed over by the DNC. No, I'm not arguing that.
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I think he's saying that Trump got bigger voter turnout during the primaries than Bernie did. You failed to address that claim.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
#23797794 - 11/03/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's easy to explain. Most states had closed or semi-closed primaries and caucuses, so people like me who were registered with another party couldn't vote for Bernie. Bernie won every single state that had an open caucus.
The polls prove definitively that Bernie is more popular than Trump. If you have data that shows otherwise, please post (I won't hold my breath).
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I'll buy that.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That's easy to explain. Most states had closed or semi-closed primaries and caucuses, so people like me who were registered with another party couldn't vote for Bernie. Bernie won every single state that had an open caucus.
The polls prove definitively that Bernie is more popular than Trump. If you have data that shows otherwise, please post (I won't hold my breath).
There were also closed or semi-closed primaries and caucuses that prevented democrats voting for republican candidates. Bernie got 12 million votes and was up against less competition. Trump was up against more competition and got 13 million votes. The hard numbers tell a different story than the phony polls. Much like how the election will be completely different than how the phony polls are portraying it to be.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10]
#23797918 - 11/03/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: the election will be completely different than how the phony polls are portraying it to be.
I'll buy that too.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10]
#23797952 - 11/03/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The fact is when all voters get to choose between Bernie and Trump, they overwhelmingly pick Bernie.
Feel free to disbelieve all the different polling sources that were in my link and call each of them "phony". I'll take empirical evidence over make believe every time.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10] 1
#23797967 - 11/03/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That's easy to explain. Most states had closed or semi-closed primaries and caucuses, so people like me who were registered with another party couldn't vote for Bernie. Bernie won every single state that had an open caucus.
The polls prove definitively that Bernie is more popular than Trump. If you have data that shows otherwise, please post (I won't hold my breath).
There were also closed or semi-closed primaries and caucuses that prevented democrats voting for republican candidates. Bernie got 12 million votes and was up against less competition. Trump was up against more competition and got 13 million votes. The hard numbers tell a different story than the phony polls. Much like how the election will be completely different than how the phony polls are portraying it to be.
You are failing to account for NPP or Independent voters, who, btw, vastly preferred Bernie to Trumplstiltskin in literally every head to head poll and make up the largest voting bloc nationally (something like 40%).
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: The fact is when all voters get to choose between Bernie and Trump, they overwhelmingly pick Bernie.
Feel free to disbelieve all the different polling sources that were in my link and call each of them "phony". I'll take empirical evidence over make believe every time.
That's what the polls all tell you. I'm sorry, but calling the polls, "empirical evidence" is laughable.
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I'll remind you that Trump hired his own polling company because he felt the same way, and now he's refusing to pay them because he is dissatisfied with their service. The facts are the facts.
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psh..yeah! facts that george soros rigged into existence!
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'll remind you that Trump hired his own polling company because he felt the same way, and now he's refusing to pay them because he is dissatisfied with their service. The facts are the facts.
That particular payment dispute has nothing to do with Trump's support. I agree, the facts are the facts. However, polls aren't facts.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman]
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amp244 said: Trump has much more actual support than Hillary, yet Hillary is "winning" by slim margins in all of the left-biased polls because there is a fix in.
Trump hired his own polling company, and now he's refusing to pay them because he is dissatisfied with their service.
Every scientific poll has Hillary way ahead, but the other side saying is they are in love with nonscientific polls because they are the only one who ever said Trump was winning or he won a debate. In a week it's over for 8 years, but unfortunately, the stupid shit on here won't ever end. We live in an era where facts are meaningless. The economy goes up significantly every quarter. The stupidity is not going to end, but it it's worse on the Shroomery than in real life. Stay on here and stay on the on the internet, because nobody in real life has any interest in your opinions.
"The economy goes up significantly every quarter"
Do you have any understanding of economics? 
Yes I have an understanding of labor economics at the graduate level.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Webster10]
#23798290 - 11/03/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a fact that the polls say Trump is losing.
Just like it's a fact that Hillary said she dindu nuffin'.
I'm seeing a trend here.
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