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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23753442 - 10/19/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the only thing that prevented Hillary from doing the right thing all throughout her political career was her lack of having absolute power? Ay, caramba!
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23753469 - 10/19/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah there are some dumb Trump supporters, but I've never heard a Trump supporter be in favor of enacting Sharia Law in the US, or having a "white male tax", or believed that Trump Jr actually killed a triceratops, or hope that he would lower the standard of living, etc. I've heard some unbelievably stupid things come out of Hillary fans' mouths that I didn't even think could be possible without being satirical
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] 4
#23753471 - 10/19/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actually this whole election, since the primaries, has been about being against the other side rather than being for your side. Both of their unfavorable ratings are higher than their favorable. You just want the other side to be even more unfavorable.
There is not much moral high ground for either side to claim.
I don't know what is a bigger crock of shit. The stuff Hillary gets away with or the stuff the other side tries to pin on her that is exactly what all the previous office holders did. We haven't had good alternatives at the top, almost forever. If we're lucky we have one good President per century, and almost half the population hates them too. I wonder if we don't over romanticize the founding fathers, and what their reputations would be like if there was this kind of media attention then.
Politics is a dirty business.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
#23753489 - 10/19/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: So the only thing that prevented Hillary from doing the right thing all throughout her political career was her lack of having absolute power? Ay, caramba!
Or put another way... how are Hillary's negative contributions any less relevant just because she shared this responsibility with other government officials?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] 2
#23753511 - 10/19/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That debate made me laugh , bigly . It also made me sad to see the gop's nominee lacks basic grammar skills . What the fuck was the last 30 min of that shit ? I felt like I was watching Hillary debate Doofey from the first Scary Movie .
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: psilynut]
#23753594 - 10/19/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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psilynut said: That debate made me laugh , bigly . It also made me sad to see the gop's nominee lacks basic grammar skills . What the fuck was the last 30 min of that shit ? I felt like I was watching Hillary debate Doofey from the first Scary Movie .
ActUALLy, it kind of looked to me like Hillary was the Wicked Witch of the West Tap Dancing in a movie called 'Nothing to See Here'
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: psilynut]
#23753604 - 10/19/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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psilynut said: That debate made me laugh , bigly . It also made me sad to see the gop's nominee lacks basic grammar skills . What the fuck was the last 30 min of that shit ? I felt like I was watching Hillary debate Doofey from the first Scary Movie .
Hey will you repost that one post where you made fun of Obama when he said Corpsemen? or his other silly uneducated use of the english language>?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] 2
#23753609 - 10/19/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: By corrupt populace I mean that there's millions of people who are just as corrupt as the corrupt government officials...only difference is they don't wield power, they just willingly elect like-minded representatives to wield that power. And that explains why when corruption is exposed with indisputable evidence, they don't seem to mind and/or even recognize it's significance.
corruption.like when a candidate gets caught saying he sexually assaults women? or is accused of lewd acts and sexual assault by a bunch of women? or when he gets caught running a scam charity? or when a candidate publicly encourages foreign governments to commit espionage against americans? are those the types of things you're talking about? if so, i agree. it's crazy to me when people don't seem to mind and/or recognize it's significance
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] 3
#23753662 - 10/19/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said:Or put another way... how are Hillary's negative contributions any less relevant just because she shared this responsibility with other government officials?
Call me crazy, but I actually think Hillary had made a number of positive contributions and my mind is having difficulty conceptualizing how anyone can blame ISIS or RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR (which actually has vanishingly small impact on my life and upon yours) on Clinton. Trump blames Clinton for all of the imaginary ails of the country and all the while he was devoted to nothing but aggrandizing and enriching himself
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23753697 - 10/20/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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moderator's wabbly voice was kinda distracting
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23753729 - 10/20/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I vote we push the button and start over again.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: sprinkles] 1
#23753800 - 10/20/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think we are here to help each other. The reason we exist is to help others. every action only to benefit and improve others lives. Like when God created Earth and he said it was good (and it was very good). Then He put humans on it. aaaaand immediately we start RUINING. "You can have anything you want, but dont eat that. Oh you ate it. Now you get to wear clothes, hope you like cancer.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: sprinkles] 4
#23753944 - 10/20/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't pretend to have the answers, and I don't blame anybody for hating Clinton. But I read Trump just said he's not sure if he will accept the results if he loses. Well, his losing the election has been a foregone conclusion for a long time. He doesn't sound like somebody who belongs in a Democracy/Republic. He sounds like Hitler.
Just to get back on topic about the debate, I heard that he again started good and went completely witless in the last half hour.
I'm going to double down on what I said recently. If the crazies from the crazy places really think they are going to have a rampage, and somehow believe that the U.S. military is going to switch sides for them, then you're stupid. Nearly every soldier and officer does what they're ordered. They don't think "Oh what are my personal political beliefs" If they did, we couldn't have a military in this country that has been very divided since at least Viet Nam. Soldiers just STFU and say yes sir.
So a lot of people have guns, and many are fond of saying this or that, about what that means in in terms of National Politics, but when it comes down to it how many are going to give up their lives for the idea of Trump.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#23754113 - 10/20/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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People have been talking about taking up arms against the us govt for a long time now . I first heard people talking about it back in the 90 s on shortwave radio around the time of the Oklahoma City bombing . I don't think any major organized violence will take place mostly because crazy people are very bad at coming together, forming plans in secret and carrying them out . I do think a Timothy Mcviegh scenario might be possible though . They just arrested some trump supporters planning a terrorist act a few days ago .
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/14/men-arrested-plot-car-bomb-mosque-trump-supporter.html
Fortunately for whoever they were planning on blowing up they weren't smart enough to keep their plans secret . But as I write this I'm watching cnn and theyre talking about all the trump supporters who are threatening 2nd amendment action when Hillary wins . I would be calling the GOP a terrorist organization in the making if I didn't think they were so incredibly stupid .
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: psilynut] 2
#23754152 - 10/20/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Donald Trump doesn't have to accept anything, when you live in your own reality you can pretty much do and say anything..
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#23754173 - 10/20/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is Trump going to do if the election turns out not to his liking? Would be interesting to watch. What a blowhard.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: fivepointer]
#23754205 - 10/20/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's a poll for you bitches, no Stal
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Citizen X] 1
#23754701 - 10/20/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trump was obviously much better prepared this time; he had canned answers for certain topics just like prepared debaters are supposed to have.
other than the repetitive lies & bullying, the various -cisms, the stream of bullshitting consciousness, misplaced blame, hyperbole, and over simplification of the issues he exhibited, i think this was his strongest debate by far. he did very well during the first half.
however; it's angering that his bigly ego makes him think everyone is lapping up his hyperbolic lies. he's constantly describing things and people he doesn't like as the worst in the history of the world, the most terrible ever seen, or unbelievably horribly historically bad. it makes me want to slap him and say NO like i'm scolding a dog that has shit in the house right after taking him for a walk to his favorite turd spot.
hillary was her normal side-stepping, pivoting, weaving, ducking and dodging self while appealing to even more women and minorities, if not convincing anyone else in the middle to vote for her. i lean toward her 'winning' this debate, barely, but donald's performance did just as much to push it in her direction as she did for herself.
they both missed opportunities left and right, but she missed a big one by not having better answers for his isis statements. she could have easily played his idiotic "what happened to the surprise attack" statements as him being the naive n00b he is in matters of war and international coalition exercises.
daesh might be in 30 countries, but they're shedding territory like a mangy dog shedding hair. they're getting their asses handed to them by mostly local forces and that's the way they need to be handled; we don't need to do it and especially not with major US ground forces. isis has lost vast quantities of land and resources in iraq and if they can't hold land and cities then they have no caliphate and are illegitimate....yes, they're a terrorist organization and will probably be forever, but they're losing big league.
my wife bought her Nasty Woman t-shirt today. capitalists rapidly capitalizing on a dumb comment should make conservatives grin with pride.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: relic] 3
#23754998 - 10/20/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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relic said:they both missed opportunities left and right, but she missed a big one by not having better answers for his isis statements. she could have easily played his idiotic "what happened to the surprise attack" statements as him being the naive n00b he is in matters of war and international coalition exercises.
I agree there were a lot of missed opportunities, but I think it would have been a mistake to waste time responding to his "sneak attack" complaint. It is clear that he's way out of his field and talking out his ass here to most people, and to the lions share of the rest, lecturing Donald and the audience would have came off wrong, I'm really surprised she didn't respond to his "I have 200 generals/admirals and 26 medal of honor endorsements." When it comes to endorsements in every field but especially national security, she cleans house. A simple "oh yeah, ive got more generals" would have sufficed. And pointing out that she was only 1 of 100 senators, then Sec of State (ie. chief diplomat) and can't change the tax code, or ISIS, Iraq, or 9/11 with a magic wand would have been beneficial I think
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23756429 - 10/20/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Call me crazy, but I actually think Hillary had made a number of positive contributions and my mind is having difficulty conceptualizing how anyone can blame ISIS or RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR (which actually has vanishingly small impact on my life and upon yours) on Clinton. Trump blames Clinton for all of the imaginary ails of the country and all the while he was devoted to nothing but aggrandizing and enriching himself
Well,Trump wasn't calling the shots when the middle east went to shit. And it went to shit on Hillary's watch under Obama.
If it had went well, you can be damned sure everyone in the media would be screaming about the bang-up job those two did fixing bushes mess.
Bush was complicit in a fucked up situtation. So where about 500 other senators and reps on both sides, and most of the cabinet officials. And the situation is still fucked up.
Its like 'Trump was for Iraq' So what? he wasn't holding public office it was his opinion one way or the other.
Hillary was holding public office and was FOR the iraq war. See the difference?
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