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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Threadcy [Re: amp244]
    #23688406 - 09/28/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the problem with conspiratorial thinking (on either the fault of the elites, or the people, either/or) is that one always overestimates what the other actually has to achieve to make anyone accomplish anything.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Threadcy [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23688440 - 09/28/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Threadcy [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23688448 - 09/28/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:nicetry:

i'd rather maintain a modicum of perspective on reality, thank you.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Threadcy [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23688458 - 09/28/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Threadcy [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #23688485 - 09/28/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not brainwashed, i don't listen to anyone. :shrug:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420]
    #23688499 - 09/28/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Brian if you are trained in public policy you know the powers that be control education and therefore the minds of the people.


I have a friend in poly sci. He told me his entire department was being funded by the DOD. Now tell me what interest does the DOD have in higher education? If definitely explains the obvious slant that gets pushed down your throats in college. My business school is and was funded by oligarchs that depend on Chicago school thinking, or else their workers would *gasp* unionize

Ah the humanity!!!




Actually I'm not trained in public policy but the story that was always going around at the U of I was that the Psyche building was financed by the DOD. They had a huge newish stand alone building while the other social sciences were crammed into sections of big 100 year old buildings. The psych dept was very biologically orientated, so that kind of fits the theory. We did have two bigtime social psychologists, but they were outliers.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23688532 - 09/28/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
They just squirt it in your colon and it works idk its crazy




i read about this, but my understanding was that they had to get it into the small intestine, so they use and endoscope or whatever to send it through the front door because theres too many turns coming in from the back


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23688952 - 09/28/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Your argument is fallacious. Firstly because the 70% determination is not a static, final answer figure and 2nd your conclusion that the 70% figure means that "people are working until they are taxed at 70%" is just simply a non sequitur.



The number is somewhere between 60% and 80%.  My point is that a 50% tax rate isn't enough to disincentivize production and prosperity as you claimed, and we have historical evidence to prove it.  The Laffer curve supports this argument and I explained why.

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I understand you struggle with intermediate level concepts so I'll just let you argue with yourself from here on out.



I'm not struggling with anything, except your expecting people to believe something just because you say it's so.  I'll take empirical evidence over amateur hypothesis any day.

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Although I sure would like to hear from Quantum or Relic, instead of Falcon. We were enjoying quite a few pages of Falcon free debate until just recently here, now every post is getting chopped to shit, taken out of context, obfuscated, and shat all over.



I'd like to hear more from Quantum and Relic as well.  They're good posters.

Now, since you've accused me of taking things out of context, I'd like you to back it up with evidence.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23689954 - 09/29/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There are a lot of "Conspiracy Theories" that become fact after 10-20 years of "crazy" people whistleblowing and the documents surface.

Heres a good example of how scientists can actually influence your nervous system through electromagnetic frequencies emitted through your television set, based on pulsating images on the screen! They could be doing this right now to your computer screen, you'd have no idea. Its all a crazy conspiracy theory until you get ahold of the patents.

https://www.google.com.au/patents/US6506148

Yay!!!!! But for real check out the inventor, Hendricus G. Loos. Dude has like 12 patents for inventions that influence people's nervous system. There is one for a subsonic acoustic noise that does the same thing.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 1
    #23689976 - 09/29/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but authoritarian psychopaths in high places would never actually use any of this stuff to harm people, right?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23689978 - 09/29/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
They just squirt it in your colon and it works idk its crazy




i read about this, but my understanding was that they had to get it into the small intestine, so they use and endoscope or whatever to send it through the front door because theres too many turns coming in from the back




Youre correct.  I was referencing a sort of "quick fix" self application method. Amazing to me either way


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23689992 - 09/29/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You talk a good game. Typical commie.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 2
    #23690028 - 09/29/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Are you claiming communists have convincing arguments?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23690041 - 09/29/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
Yeah but authoritarian psychopaths in high places would never actually use any of this stuff to harm people, right?



I don't know, they just like to embed it within computer screens and television monitors for fun. I'm sure we'll have some more practical apparatuses for the medical field, lol.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23690170 - 09/29/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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amp244 said:
There are a lot of "Conspiracy Theories" that become fact after 10-20 years of "crazy" people whistleblowing and the documents surface.

Heres a good example of how scientists can actually influence your nervous system through electromagnetic frequencies emitted through your television set, based on pulsating images on the screen! They could be doing this right now to your computer screen, you'd have no idea. Its all a crazy conspiracy theory until you get ahold of the patents.

https://www.google.com.au/patents/US6506148

Yay!!!!! But for real check out the inventor, Hendricus G. Loos. Dude has like 12 patents for inventions that influence people's nervous system. There is one for a subsonic acoustic noise that does the same thing.



Wow, now that's off topic!  So what does it mean to you to "manipulate the nervous system"?  Hopefully you don't think it means mind control.  :cuckoo:

And according to the patent, it only works with tube TV's and monitors, which have long gone out of popularity.

So no examples of me taking anything out of context?  No logical rebuttals to the long list of points I've made?  No evidence for any of the things I asked for?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 1
    #23690853 - 09/29/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

CRT TV's didn't have magnets anywhere near powerful enough to have the faintest hope of
applying measurable trans-cranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). Modern TVs don't have a magnet of
any appreciable size. The biggest magnet in your house is probably in any HDD hard drives you might
have. If you've upgraded to solid state drives (do it! <$50 for a ginormous performance jump) then maybe
the motor in your dryer?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23690868 - 09/29/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Are you claiming communists have convincing arguments?




I'm more upset he claimed u were a communist.

Chill out McCarthy, real communists wouldn't be caught dead preaching traditional liberal values and worst of all of all, the possibility of reforming a bourgeois system.

Seize the memes of political mind control to create a more equitable and just socio-economic system my dear comrades!


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23691166 - 09/29/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

amp244 said:
There are a lot of "Conspiracy Theories" that become fact after 10-20 years of "crazy" people whistleblowing and the documents surface.

Heres a good example of how scientists can actually influence your nervous system through electromagnetic frequencies emitted through your television set, based on pulsating images on the screen! They could be doing this right now to your computer screen, you'd have no idea. Its all a crazy conspiracy theory until you get ahold of the patents.

https://www.google.com.au/patents/US6506148

Yay!!!!! But for real check out the inventor, Hendricus G. Loos. Dude has like 12 patents for inventions that influence people's nervous system. There is one for a subsonic acoustic noise that does the same thing.



Wow, now that's off topic!  So what does it mean to you to "manipulate the nervous system"?  Hopefully you don't think it means mind control.  :cuckoo:

And according to the patent, it only works with tube TV's and monitors, which have long gone out of popularity.

So no examples of me taking anything out of context?  No logical rebuttals to the long list of points I've made?  No evidence for any of the things I asked for?



Falcon,
I'm embarrassed for you at this point. Google "nervous system" to find out why. What does mind control mean to you? I think manipulating the nervous system means manipulating the functioning of the brain and body of a human subject, you know, as per the definition of nervous system. The effect may be much more subtle and non-perceptible than you think. Also you didn't read the fucking patent if you think it only means tubes. Go back, type (ctl+f) and search LCD or CRT. Or search this quote:
Quote:

These results confirm that, indeed, the nervous system of a subject can be manipulated through electromagnetic field pulses emitted by a nearby CRT or LCD monitor which displays images with pulsed intensity.



But you're right, they can do it on tube TV's as well! I wonder why someone would design a method for embedding faintly pulsating images that create electromagnetic frequencies into television programs if the object was to manipulate the nervous system? 

Heres the link again for you to read:
https://www.google.com.au/patents/US6506148
Read the whole thing and it will blow your mind.
We shouldn't even be talking about this. I had posted it, and it was buried in banter. Now your perplexed ass comes in here and spouts off all types of misinformation, lies, and ignorance; so I had to bring it back.

As far as the other argument I stopped responding to your ignorance. I cited that stupid shit you asked for about American History. You cited the Laffer curve, which was COMPLETELY IREELEVENT to the argument of economic prosperity. You chopped up my argument, quoted rhetorical questions AND ANSWERED THEM, and completely clouded up any point anyone was trying to make.


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Edited by amp244 (09/29/16 07:39 PM)


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23691389 - 09/29/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

THIS JUST IN, FROM RUSSIAN SATELLITE



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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 1
    #23691431 - 09/29/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Falcon is under mind control. Which explains why he uses his intelligence for stupidity and propaganda instead of for truth and honesty.


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