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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: demiu5] * 2
    #23678135 - 09/25/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol, physically assault her or someone else? How much left wing propaganda have you been subjecting yourself to?






none.  it was a legitimate question trying to discern your comment.  what kinds of 'punches' do you anticipate Trump 'pulling?'



Trump's been talking for months; months and months.  He's said little to nothing.  Just like Hillary.  Why is this forum going to prove any different for either?




He has said plenty, please tell me the last time a politician discussed our shitty trade agreements?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 1
    #23678148 - 09/25/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh just wait. The debate tomorrow will be epic.




Some think Hillary might cancel at the last minute.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23680118 - 09/26/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol, physically assault her or someone else? How much left wing propaganda have you been subjecting yourself to?






none.  it was a legitimate question trying to discern your comment.  what kinds of 'punches' do you anticipate Trump 'pulling?'



Trump's been talking for months; months and months.  He's said little to nothing.  Just like Hillary.  Why is this forum going to prove any different for either?




He has said plenty, please tell me the last time a politician discussed our shitty trade agreements?




Bernie.

Oh right! I forgot. You're bound by blood oath to never support a liberal, despite him being the omly honest, geniune, and honorable presidential candidate since god knows when.




I supported Bernie on many of his proposed polices and still do to this day, I still think Trump brought the trade policies into the main stream much more effectively.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23680154 - 09/26/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If you say so.




Bernie never stated the phrase "economic tariffs" like Trump did, that's the big difference in my opinion. :shrug:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23681436 - 09/26/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think the debate is going to change the poll numbers at all.




I think this particular debate won't change much, but there's still two left.

Trump did come off as stronger, but Hillary didn't do bad, I give Trump a 60/40 edge for tonight.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23686248 - 09/28/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Major highways are interstates, and have been since Eisenhower developed the system in the 50's. It's impractical for states to build these independently, and for better or worse we have a trucking based economy.

    On to the subject of polls on the debate. I'm no mathematician or engineer but I'm thoroughly trained at grad school level in public opinion polling. Once your mind can conceive of what a sampling distribution is, inferential statistics is easy math for these applications. This is what the polls said. Every internet poll, which is just people shouting out their opinions, like this forum, said Trump won the debate. Every scientifically constructed poll had Hillary as the debate winner by a 10-12% margin. Anyone who tells you different is trying to blow smoke up your ass. Even Trump knows he lost, and he knows he did so poorly he is threatening to not participate in any further debates. He blames a bad microphone, but it was evident that he had his shit together for the most part for the first 10 minutes then fell apart. Both sides said the moderators were biased against them. Those are subjective arguments that can be made, but there is no doubt that Trump kept talking when it wasn't his turn to talk.

    I am a Hillary backer for 2 precise reasons. One, I knew she would win the election at least 18 months ago, and it's not going to be as close as many of you think. Hillary's serious opposition was Bernie, not Trump, although they both may have an impact on the mentality of future Presidential elections. The two third party candidates this year might as well be jacking off in the back yard for all the impact they will have on this election. Scientific polling shows there relatively low vote counts will be more or less equal in siphoning votes off from either party. Second, I back Hillary because I don't want Republicans shaping the SCOTUS. That's it. I don't back Hillary in any other way.




Well said as always, and agree 100% :thumbup:




So you back Hillary as well?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23697766 - 10/01/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Obviously taxes need to be raised on the wealthy considering our record deficits, debt, and lowest top tax rates in history.



clinton raised taxes, debt went up, Obama raised taxes, debt doubled, sorry Charlie, not buying it



:facepalm3:
This dude needs a lesson in economics.



I was addressing the assertion that "we can lower the debt by raising taxes" which I easily proved wrong



No, you didn't prove that wrong.  That's a very simple and basic mathematical truth.  What you showed is that Obama didn't lower the deficit, which is because he used stimulus (deficit) spending to help get us out of the Great Recession.




"used stimulus spending"

Which was what?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23712331 - 10/06/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Capitalism didn't cause 2007 or 1929.



What caused it then?  We had rising income inequality before those times, putting less of the available money into the hands of consumers.  Banks operated without federal protection before the Great Depression, creating a climate of panic when times got tough. Few regulations were placed on banks and they lent money to those who speculated recklessly in stocks...

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And if you like too big to fail than hell yea buddy, keep saving the market and watching this wealth inequality you decry grow and grow!



It's the liberals that are calling to end 'too big to fail'.  The Government needs to break companies up when they get so large that their failure can hurt the entire economy.
They also need to break up monopolies.

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The Federal Reserve, Progressive Income Tax, state administered education, these are Marxist ideas, not capitalist ones. They didn't exist in this country until the 20th century.



These all helped create a strong middle class.

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Under capitalism, the banks fail, and the taxpayer keeps their money, and the people who defaulted lose their homes.



You forgot to mention that when banks fail, innocent people with money in those banks also lose.  And when a 'too big to fail' bank fails and causes other companies with money tied up in those banks to fail also, even more innocent people lose.  That's capitalism.




And their failures cleans out the bad practices, would it make you feel better when people lose their money under crony capitalism/socialism? 

You're the one that wants to bailout these banks, how does that help breaking up 'too big to fail'?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23748841 - 10/18/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn Stein Laying it down!




:whathesaid:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
    #23761183 - 10/22/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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amp244 said:And for the record I really resonate with a most of what Stein is saying, but Trump knows how to make deals and create wealth, so he is the most qualified to handle the economy. He also doesn't want to start a war with Russia, like Hillary. He knows how the economy works, Hillary doesn’t. Trump is a businessman who knows how to create wealth. Hillary is a lawyer and a politician, who knows how to lie and cash checks from special interests. Who would you rather have managing your finances and operations?




Trump makes his money pretending to be a businessman for the cameras. Nearly everything concrete Trump has ventured has turned out to be a failure with the notable exceptions of his golf courses. Trump has success when he is licensing out his name to real businessmen and being a celebrity/reality TV personality. Trump doesn't "make great deals." Do you really think he has the ability to sit still for a meeting serious business with actual adults?[/quote


His net worth is in the billions, he's not a failure as a businessman.

When fortune 500 companies reported profit losses for several quarters, are they failures?  No.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #23776512 - 10/27/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Soros is a well known supporter of American progressive and American liberal political causes.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

He's a leftist, bro. Don't be thick.




Yeah I'm sure he wants to raise taxes and regulation on himself and his empire.




Contrary to Republican rhetoric, business regulation is a corporate agenda to push down small businesses and to gain corporate market share.  It has worked very well in the past 25 years.

In fact, the same corporate powers have no issue with a higher minimum wage, as they also know it will kill small businesses and only help corporations gain more market share.

So people like Soros do push for these polices, they have very good reasons for doing so, even more money over the medium and long term.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23776815 - 10/27/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So now your claim is that corporations want to regulate themselves more and raise the minimum wage

It must be the small business owners throwing billions at Congress to stop that from happening.

:facepalm:




You don't get it, the corporations lobby for more regulations to kill small businesses, they don't care about the regulations when they capture more market share, why is that such a difficult concept to understand?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23776901 - 10/27/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Can you provide an example of a corporation lobbying for more regulation?




Are you serious, who do you think does this lobbying for more business regulation, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren?    :rofl2:

It's about tax loopholes, insurance, finding cheaper labor, and lobbying power in general.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23790601 - 11/01/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So has anybody noticed Trump has been cultivated by the KGB for five years. I wouldn't call him a mole cause he's far too stupid to be a mole. I patsy maybe. 

    Let me explain  something to the  kids. Both sides want the other candidate to get convicted and go prison. The candidate of the more powerful party doesn't go prison. Period. Other wise Reagan would have died in prison Bush and Chaney can never go to Europe,  or they go to war crimes tribunal.

    Mrs. Clinton is going to win and she ain't going nowhere except the White House. I would prefer to be more polite but I am really sick of listening to people masturbatory fantasies.

    As I have said for 18 months, I'm not wrong.




She'll be on house arrest.  :rofl2:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #23796912 - 11/03/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump has much more actual support than Hillary, yet Hillary is "winning" by slim margins in all of the left-biased polls because there is a fix in.



Trump hired his own polling company, and now he's refusing to pay them because he is dissatisfied with their service.




Every scientific poll has Hillary way ahead, but the other side saying is they are in love with nonscientific polls because they are the only one who ever said Trump was winning or he won a debate. In a week it's over for 8 years, but unfortunately, the stupid shit on here won't ever end. We live in an era where facts are meaningless. The economy goes up significantly every quarter. The stupidity is not going to end, but it it's worse on the Shroomery than in real life. Stay on here and stay  on the on the internet, because nobody in real life has any interest in your opinions.




"The economy goes up significantly every quarter"

Do you have any understanding of economics?  :facepalm:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23799157 - 11/03/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump has much more actual support than Hillary, yet Hillary is "winning" by slim margins in all of the left-biased polls because there is a fix in.



Trump hired his own polling company, and now he's refusing to pay them because he is dissatisfied with their service.




Every scientific poll has Hillary way ahead, but the other side saying is they are in love with nonscientific polls because they are the only one who ever said Trump was winning or he won a debate. In a week it's over for 8 years, but unfortunately, the stupid shit on here won't ever end. We live in an era where facts are meaningless. The economy goes up significantly every quarter. The stupidity is not going to end, but it it's worse on the Shroomery than in real life. Stay on here and stay  on the on the internet, because nobody in real life has any interest in your opinions.




"The economy goes up significantly every quarter"

Do you have any understanding of economics?  :facepalm:



Yes I have an understanding of labor economics at the graduate level.




Then why are you making fallacious statements on the current state of the economy?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23799302 - 11/03/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The economy goes up significantly every quarter



Do you have any understanding of economics?  :facepalm:



Yes I have an understanding of labor economics at the graduate level.



Then why are you making fallacious statements on the current state of the economy?



Let's see, under Obama...

Over 10 million jobs were created
Unemployment went down 5%
Corporate profits are up 15%
The stock market is up over 150%
GDP per capita is back to normal

Ya, I'd say the economy has improved.




Yet, GDP remains weak, demand remains weak, credit growth remains weak, wages remain weak and debt levels continue to soar higher.

"I'd say the economy has improved"

From 2008, yes, from 2007, no.

Here we are in 2016 and the Federal Reserve still can NOT hike interest rates as it still remains at 0%, it's a disaster.

Just wait until we hit a recession or even a financial crisis, those Obama years will a distant memory, nothing has been fixed.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23799311 - 11/03/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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"has improved" is not the same as "booming."  It was a total shitstorm when Obama came in, and now, not as much.  I don't see why this is a contentious subject at all.   
Now if you want to say that Obama and/or his/Dem policies had anything/nothing to do with this improvement, be my guest, but the improvement itself seems self evident (even if it isn't enough).




The wealth inequality is at a 80 year high, very few people are involved in this "improvement" Obama brags about, he's a sellout House Negro.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23799988 - 11/04/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Imagine the pom pom waving if this was Trump's economic recovery.

"He's a business GENIUS! America is great again! All the unemployed, underemployed, and debt ridden are just lazy libs who wont work anyway."




That might be the case in some corners, but as someone who just looks at the economic facts, I wouldn't go down that road.

Fal has been a supporter of this economic "recovery" since day one, I'm not sure where his thesis really comes from, but his loyalty to Obama has been pretty strong until very recently.

Here's a little secret I going to admit to today, I don't want Trump to win and get blamed for what is coming economically in the next 4 years. I will still vote for him, but I want Hillary in the White House when another round of bailouts come as US citizens are hurting. 

It doesn't matter who's in office, what's coming is coming regardless of who's in office.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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