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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23681316 - 09/26/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Obviously taxes need to be raised on the wealthy considering our record deficits, debt, and lowest top tax rates in history.
And yes, we need to regulate the banks.
You actually think Clinton is gonna raise taxes on herself and gives a shit about income inequality
When she said she grew up middle class I laughed so hard I could have cried
Trump wrecked her
Funny how she kept dodging the email scandal and DNC hacks
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: tHEfLY]
#23681395 - 09/26/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tHEfLY said: There's no way Trump won that, It was hard to watch at times. Policy aside, just purely in terms of the personalities being projected I thought he handled himself pretty poorly
I tuned in hoping to see hillary stroke out or something but she maintained her smug composure the whole time and trump's answers consisted mostly of defensive babbling, he was clearly uncomfortable
"my best asset is my temperament" "audience lols"
ugh 

Audience?
You mean people who have donated millions to her campaign and her corporate handlers
It was funny how she kept talking about "fact checkers" Which of course is code for "media plz save meeeee!"
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23681401 - 09/26/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crumist said: I think Hillary should have really pressed the attack when Trumps blood pressure was up through the roof and he was stuttering. That Trump seemed reasonably composed for the majority of the debate was my fear.
Imo, Hillary creamed trump and got all of the zingers, but he's been spanked and booed in previous debates and yet here he is in the finals.
Trump all but admitted he pays $0 in federal taxes. That's way worse than I could've imagined
Fuck the tax returns
Where are the 33,000 emails What about the DNC hack. She just brushed that shit right off
When she said don't you owe an apology to all those people you didn't pay
Where's her apology for the millions of people she's killed and lives she's destroyed?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23681481 - 09/26/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crumist said: Lol at the audience being donors, the vast majority were Hofstra faculty and students. Both Trump and Clinton got cheers, though as I said, I think Hillary won the people in the room. "Stamina", and "I have prepared",
They fucking flew in another rich douchebag (mark Cuban) purely to troll trump.
The establisment has and always will be on her side. Holt hit trump with a question about tax return but didn't even press Hillary on emails cgn or the dnc leaks
How are we not even going to discuss the very worst things about Clinton. I don't give a fuck about her dumb prepared one liners. If she was so prepared on policy why did she make him look like a good businessman and expose her own lack of knowledge in the topic?
Conservatives tend to be idiots, but liberals definitely tend to be sheep
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: starfire_xes]
#23681554 - 09/26/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Every poll out shows Trump winning substatially. Even slates. Now, I think it was tight, but here are some dynamics:
Hillary came across as very smooth, polished--and a total political insider. Trump came off as more genuine, but rough and unpolished--and as the outsider.
If you grade on who looked polished Hillary won. If you grade on who seemed to have a better vision, Trump won.
It's coming down to: More of what weve done for the last thirty years, or something different?
Here is the closest poll I've found: http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/
Ild agree with your analysis
Trump came across as savvy.
Plus that line about the generals and admirals supporting him was pretty good, and I think he deflected the brash complaint back on her.
She is a pretty verbal warmonger
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: starfire_xes]
#23681562 - 09/26/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Every poll out shows Trump winning substatially. Even slates. Now, I think it was tight, but here are some dynamics:
Hillary came across as very smooth, polished--and a total political insider. Trump came off as more genuine, but rough and unpolished--and as the outsider.
If you grade on who looked polished Hillary won. If you grade on who seemed to have a better vision, Trump won.
It's coming down to: More of what weve done for the last thirty years, or something different?
Here is the closest poll I've found: http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/
Ild agree with your analysis
Trump came across as savvy.
Plus that line about the generals and admirals supporting him was pretty good, and I think he deflected the brash and cavaliering complaint back on her. Especially how she just went off on an anti Russian tantrum out of no where.
If there is anyone pushing for war it's her
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Ezuma]
#23681889 - 09/27/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: you don't understand economics either. pretending like you do...it almost infuriates me...just to know that you are so far up your own ass, you think you can tell me better than what 10 (or more) other economists have to say.
that kind of stupidity, that blatant, belligerent, kind of stupidity, really does kinda make me feel ill; just to know that it's possible.
you don't know what the results of his plan is gonna be, if you did, you'd lay it out for me, in simple terms, like you said you can do.
there is a reason trump's fan base is largely uneducated and poor
Hey brother we've established we are of similar idealogical backgrounds
I wouldn't say I support trump, but I definitely dislike Hillary more. Quite a few of my Marxist friends feel the same way.
Hillary's most energized fan base seems to be entirely comprised of rich, educated, but ignorant, liberals who have lived their lives in their little white progressive bubbles called suburban America.
I think a good amount of trump supporters are just disillusioned workers. They have had enough bullshit from people who in Obama's own words (and image ) "will say anything and do nothing" they are the proletariat upon which this country was built. We can't throw them to the wolves or we are no better than the fucking liberals who hide behind their bullshit rhetoric about income inequality in public and their gated communities in private
Plus if Hillary wins, the next trump is gonna be a lot worse and a lot more dangerous to minorities and the future of the ideological left in this country
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23681944 - 09/27/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like ya Akira, but that shit made zero sense to me.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23682916 - 09/27/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Sanders proposed the same idea. the message is important...like false impressions are important.
Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23682981 - 09/27/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: What makes you think he doesnt have credibility?
Again, he promised to endorse the winner of the Democratic race were it not himself. He stuck to his word.
Bernie is literally so honorable that no one can comprehend it. Or so it seems.
What you call honor and credibility I call cowardice.
Fuck the democrats it's bigger than parties. The thing is he is a blowhard, a rather convincing one, but still just all talk like all the other liberals.
The DNC fucked him, and he is standing behind Clinton, he could have ended her presidential run but he's a pussy.
What credibility does he have? He fell in line behind the pro war politician. Ya both trump and Hillary suck but fuck Clinton has 30-40 years of sucking and 8 years of shit.
I can't believe trump didn't mention glass steagall
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: elax420] 1
#23682984 - 09/27/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Democratic scocialsm"
And then he gets behind Clinton
lolwut, you fucking tool
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23683085 - 09/27/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Sanders proposed the same idea. the message is important...like false impressions are important.
Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.
he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.
That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23683120 - 09/27/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya he's a fucking pussy that didn't mean anything he said. Duh
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23683259 - 09/27/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sanders proposed the same idea. the message is important...like false impressions are important.
Ya but sanders showed how much of a little bitch puppet he is real quick. I mean deep down we all knew he wouldn't do shit if elected, but I atleast thought the man had some integrity.
he said he'd endorse Hillary if he hadn't any more chance to win...presumably to keep her on his radar, so he can keep track of her bullshit, and try to have influence on the situation.
That's what all the apologists say. He obviously has no influence look at the DNC leaks. Plus he failed to support the challenger to DWS so fuck him for that too.
He endorsed Canova, campaigned for him, and gave his campaign Bernie's email and donor list.
You are consistently misinformed about Bernie. Not surprisimg, considering the media blackout.
You are full of more shit than Bernie.
He only supported canova back in like April.
When the race actually mattered and Dws was pulling out people like Obama, Bernie was silent
Nothing about the leaks
Fuck Bernie and fuck his liberal apologists. You guys deserve trump.
The democrats are way worse than the republicans. Clinton's little cunt daughter spoke today abou how there is anecdotal evidence of marijuana being fatal. Yet you support these lying fucks
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Ezuma]
#23683261 - 09/27/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's bullshit too,
Give me one reason to vote for Clinton.
Man the Cold War was sweet, let's pick another fight with an autocratic militarist that has a more aggressive and advanced military than our own. That's gonna be a great idea
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23683337 - 09/27/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't give a fuck what you think about Bernie, I'm telling you why I don't like him.
Ultimately he did nothing but hurt Clinton, which is stupid because he later supported her, so wtf was the point of Bernie?
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23683921 - 09/27/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crumist said: 1. Fuck the dailymail, its a bullshit source. 2. The debates hardly matter, therefore some brigades internet poll about the debate is worth shit 3. The side that complains about the moderator, lost
The fuck are you on?
Do we actually have a living breathing Clinton supporter? God damn now that's a rare sighting.
The establishment is 120% in bed with the clintons, this isn't even debateable. She cried out for media help atleast 2 times in the debate. Holt obliged on atleast one of these.
The whole 2002 support thing was obviously a plant from the Clinton camp. The irony is it completely ignored her support of the war. If we're gonna act like Iraq was a failure let's hold the people who made it happen responsible.
Hillary slipped out of the email question and the dnc question Libya, Isis. This is all from memory too
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23683989 - 09/27/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't do that method of replies. It's so fucking annoying and hard to reply back to.
I'll forever be mad at Zappa for popularizing that shit...
Hillary has been caught in hundreds of lies that resulted in millions of lives lost but ya trump is the big bad bully.
You seem to get mad at trump for giving "stock answers" so why not hill?
Cut the devils advocate bullshit, you're a Clinton supporter
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Crumist]
#23684131 - 09/27/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Don't do that method of replies. It's so fucking annoying and hard to reply back to.
I'll forever be mad at Zappa for popularizing that shit...
Zappa (RIP) was the shit, thank you. But I agree the line-by-line reply is annoying
Trump is free to give his stock answers, or to answer the questions anyway he sees fit, and he did so.
And I'd appreciate a source on the "millions of deaths" that have resulted of Hillary's lies. I've seen her behavior and Trumps and find Hillary to be the far more moral and competent between the two of them.
You don't need sources for claims like that.
Google causalities from (name whatever conflict you want, and there are a lot)
Iraq I believe was 1.5 million, but ild say that number is still growing as Isis is a direct result of the American invasion she supported.
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: starfire_xes] 1
#23685076 - 09/28/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
No one said we should replace the private sector with Government.
I say that.
Because I'm not a fucking pussy like Bernie.
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