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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman] * 6
    #23809283 - 11/07/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not all people are voting for Trump for economic reasons, and economic reasons arent the only things these people are being disenfranchised over

Theres been a major highlight of corporate campaign finance, because for once the GOP candidate is doing the exact same thing to the same extent.

Theres been a major highlight on corruptuon in general. Focus on wikileaks and the future of journalism, and a somewhat tepid criticism of the national security state and adventurous wars. Now, that part is coupled with a completely racist foreign and domestic policy, but its a start.


Basically what I'm saying is Trump got the GOP base to question the establishment, something a huge block of the Dem base has been doing since 1968. Hopefully this bodes well for the future of the nation as a whole. We can still bicker about elections, but lets stip corporations from running them. We can still bicker about Muslims, but lets not waste lives and money invading their homelands. We can still hash out these differences without giving the establishment a free pass to fuck us over when we arent looking. Hopefully we can move towards a concensus on this.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 5
    #23753299 - 10/19/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ah, Trump supporters.  Does it bother you that your base is so stupid?  Buying what has been fact-checked at 92% false?  You guys honestly don't seem that dumb, but you have to admit that the base is pretty fucking stupid.

Y'all are sore losers, anyway.  Trump can't win.  When Utah isn't red anymore you know something is wrong somewhere.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 5
    #23823190 - 11/11/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think all of Clinton's corruption and bullshit over the years, especially her shady moves during the primary, like receiving debate questions before the debates, and intentionally scheduling the debates on days which people wouldn't be watching, etc. 'HRC lying for 15 minutes straight' ring a bell? She was just tainted in so many ways. Death by a thousand cuts.

All that baggage, and what are her positives? Her vagina? I don't get it. What about her is inspiring?

Losing to Donald Trump is like losing a marathon to quadriplegic. Watching him in the debates... oh god.. it was painful. At the end of the day, I just think our country is full of idiots. America is Biff with ED.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: akira_akuma] * 4
    #23681858 - 09/27/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you don't understand economics either. pretending like you do...it almost  infuriates me...just to know that you are so far up your own ass, you think you can tell me better than what 10 (or more) other economists have to say.

that kind of stupidity, that blatant, belligerent, kind of stupidity, really does kinda make me feel ill; just to know that it's possible.

you don't know what the results of his plan is gonna be, if you did, you'd lay it out for me, in simple terms, like you said you can do.




there is a reason trump's fan base is largely uneducated and poor


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 4
    #23714522 - 10/06/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Please vote. Vote for local and state elections and write in Kanye for president for all I care.


Some bullshit ass solar power restriction amendment is about to be passed in FL because the majority of voters are disenfranchised.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 4
    #23717984 - 10/07/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do a protest vote. Write-in 'Hillary for Prison' on the ballot, or something like that. And let the rest of us vote for Trump and defeat Hillary.



I think you've been asked this a lot, but what will Trump specifically do to make my life any better?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 4
    #23753471 - 10/19/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Actually this whole election, since the primaries, has been about being against the other side rather than being for your side. Both of their unfavorable ratings are higher than their favorable. You just want the other side to be even more unfavorable.

    There is not much moral high ground for either side to claim.

    I don't know what is a bigger crock of shit. The stuff Hillary gets away with or the stuff the other side tries to pin on her that is exactly what all the previous office holders did. We haven't had good alternatives at the top, almost forever. If we're lucky we have one good President per century, and almost half the population hates them too. I wonder if we don't over romanticize the founding fathers, and what their reputations would be like if there was this kind of media attention then.

    Politics is a dirty business.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: sprinkles] * 4
    #23753944 - 10/20/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't pretend to have the answers, and I don't blame anybody for hating Clinton. But I read Trump just said he's not sure if he will accept the results if he loses. Well, his losing the election has been a foregone conclusion for a long time. He doesn't sound like somebody who belongs in a Democracy/Republic. He sounds like Hitler.

    Just to get back on topic about the debate, I heard that he again started good and went completely witless in the last half hour.

    I'm going to double down on what I said recently. If the crazies from the crazy places really think they are going to have a rampage, and somehow believe that the U.S. military is going to switch sides for them, then you're stupid. Nearly every soldier and officer does what they're ordered. They don't think "Oh what are my personal political beliefs" If they did, we couldn't have a military in this country that has been very divided since at least Viet Nam. Soldiers just STFU and say yes sir.

    So a lot of people have guns, and many are fond of saying this or that, about what that means in in terms of National Politics, but when it comes down to it how many are going to give up their lives for the idea of Trump.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence] * 4
    #23761569 - 10/22/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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George Soros wants Hillary elected..is that not enough to make some of you guys think twice about voting for her?




Yeah thats why us lefties with brains launched the biggest grassroots political campaign in US history a la Bernie.

But we got screwed. Doesnt make Trump (or the GOP in general) a better choice. Just because we wanted something farther left than Hillary doesnt mean were gonna go far right simply out of spite. That makes zero sense. Yet its something the right wingers on this sub continue to advocate.

I've given this explanation, honest to god, probably 100 times since Bernie conceded. I guess its hard to comprehend political decisions not based on emotion when your hero is a mood ring with a bad toupee.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Brian Jones] * 4
    #23779477 - 10/28/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because their platform is half dog whistle, half dog shit.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 4
    #23779850 - 10/28/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You act like fal is the only person who thinks the burden of proof is integral to making claims.

Its not anyones responsibility to investigate your claims, short of common knowledge. And knowledge isnt so common around these parts.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 4
    #23780014 - 10/28/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So what youre saying is it shouldnt be difficult at all to source your claims. I completelt agree.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Eminence] * 4
    #23805025 - 11/05/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i live in north carolina. in this case it was a trump supporter talking about a couple of middle eastern guys in front of me. there are racists tucked away within every group, but nothing on the level of trump's base has ever been seen before in mainstream politics. trump's divisive, xenophobic 'policies' have giving all the closet racists in the united states the courage to become more overtly racist, show their true colors.

peyotezen: if you're a trump supporter, then it's pretty damn ironic that you're calling clinton supporters retards. you follow an imbecile whose ridiculous antics, childish behavior, and total lack of experience is unprecedented in US political history. :thumbup:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244] * 4
    #23809125 - 11/07/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They get real defensive when you call Bernie a shill. Its so obvious, but they still deify him.




I think whats especially cute is that Trump supporters badmouth Bernie when their candidate is brought up in a negative light, in the most transparent attempt to elicit anger. I have to squint at my phone screen because the insecurity is so glaring.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #23810984 - 11/07/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump and his tards get to ride the looooser train out of town, destination Loserville, departure time 24 hours. 

The long nightmare is almost over.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #23813017 - 11/08/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump's gonna get his loser ass handed to him

Fuck him and all his degenerate, deplorable, douchey-ass supporters

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: plurfekt] * 4
    #23815801 - 11/09/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Now we just get to see if Trump really backs up this change talk or if he falls in line behind the establishment like Obama did.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: hostileuniverse] * 4
    #23823726 - 11/11/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dinosaurs need to die.  With any luck, both parties will wither and we can move on to a better system


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: qman] * 4
    #23825189 - 11/12/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why let them blow up the economy again? Bail out or not that still sucks ass for the average American.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: viktor] * 4
    #23828008 - 11/13/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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However, the left will be a new left, composed of "Berniecrats". Wishful thinking, but entirely possible.




I believe this will happen. The regressive left is mostly made up out of communists and middle-class kids who become conservatives as soon as they inherit from their parents. Both of these groups have a very limited life-span.

In my opinion the left that will rise to power will be similar to Sanders's sensible non-fashion based politics.




In America, Sanders is a Communist, if you weren't aware. Oh, and Obama is a Socialist. Ask HU, he'll lay it all out for you. Actually, Obama is a Socialist, and a Fascist, because Socialism and Fascism are the same thing. However, right wing politics have never, and will never have any authoritarian component, because they are incapable of being Fascist, because they are the small government guys. Get it? Good.

Boy, I love this line:
"The regressive left is mostly made up out of communists and middle-class kids who become conservatives as soon as they inherit from their parents."

Unfortunately, the majority of these assholes 'Speaking truth to power', and bitching about 'white privilege' are the most privileged of us all. Ivy league college students and what not. They are already living the good life off their parents wealth, which is why they have all the time in the world to go around being do-nothing pantywastes.

The SJW movement has been a black mark on the left for painfully too long at this point. When I tell people I lean to the left, they think I'm telling them to refer to me as Zur, and watch out for trigger warnings... or some shit. These assholes have a bone to pick with everyone who isn't one of their 'special people', and they will never have very much pull in the world.

You know, I was going to say that the SJW cunts mostly did back Sanders, but now that I think about it, no, they backed Clinton. I guess I shouldn't say that... They backed Clinton's vagina. Yeah, they can get the fuck out of our movement.

I think I am rambling... It's 5 AM and I haven't slept.. I'm growing mushrooms. Lots of them. A worthy cause for a forfeited sleep cycle!


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