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LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences
#23676554 - 09/25/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd tend to lean towards Dark Star's proposal on the issue but my experiences are leaning towards that impurities in the synthesis MAY be active in the body.
Edit: Momentary posts
Edited by dixienormous (09/25/16 12:09 PM)
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: dixienormous] 6
#23676568 - 09/25/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So many threads about this. So many times it's been explained.
Last month I went to work on 1.5 mgs
People have watched me drink vials before and I was functioning fine the entire time.
Their back hurts because they have bad posture all day everyday then they eat L and get a bit uncomfortable and it causes them to put dot together.
It used to be "The strychnine in LSD makes your back hurt" Now its impure crystal?
No it's lazy ass hippies that eat like shit and don't exercise.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: dixienormous] 3
#23676577 - 09/25/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23676637 - 09/25/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Even if iso and lumi LSD aren't active on their own, I do find it plausible that they could bind at SERT and prevent LSD from from binding at those receptors or have other effects in combination with the active isomer. This has never been studied, and probably never will be. Who knows.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: nowhere] 5
#23676713 - 09/25/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it's less than 50% pure, a friend told me he knows a guy that went to school with someone who's cousin's little sister's BFF's boyfriend ate just 1 dose and now he thinks he's a glass of orange juice and won't let anyone touch him because he thinks he will spill.
I trust my friend 100% on this.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: vandago]
#23676737 - 09/25/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My mom told me she knew a guy like that too
Said his nickname was Carrot-head and he got to thinking he was a glass of orange juice
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23676792 - 09/25/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
No fucking way that LSD turns into DOC, no matter the % of its purity.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: LSDollar] 3
#23676814 - 09/25/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: LSDollar] 3
#23676816 - 09/25/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes it does, for the same reasons 70% MDMA will turn into Methylone.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23676896 - 09/25/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
Lol
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23676914 - 09/25/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eat 350ug of 60% LSD and compare it with 200ug of 99% and get back to me. Most people will be able to notice the difference. I know this for a fact.
Edited by Hobozen (09/25/16 02:14 PM)
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen]
#23676916 - 09/25/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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1mg 60% would be similar to 600ug 99%. Am i right?
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: LSDollar]
#23676921 - 09/25/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chrck the correction. 60%*
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#23676923 - 09/25/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mirraco said: 1mg 60% would be similar to 600ug 99%. Am i right?
Yep. Not even a fair comparison.
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ONE OZ SLUG said: Yes it does, for the same reasons 70% MDMA will turn into Methylone.
This is also false. If you had any education in organic chemistry, you would know this.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23676926 - 09/25/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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His comment was tongue in cheek. The reasons they degrade into those chemicals are definitely the same, he was correct about that much.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen]
#23676930 - 09/25/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't care about talking about this publcly because I dont deal, but I used to know a family with a chemist and they had a ton of low quality 60% blotters that hardly circulated. Whenever they made the high purity stuff it would come and go in a flash. The effects between the different purities were obviously different, to many people.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: LSDollar] 3
#23676937 - 09/25/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mirraco said:
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XLCaps said: Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
No fucking way that LSD turns into DOC, no matter the % of its purity.
Well, I am here to educate you. There are several ways to convert LSD in to the psychedelic amphetamine, DOC. First is through natural degradation, next if you leave your lsd out under moonlight beside orgonite crystals(very effective) and also an extraction using patchouli and naptha.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen] 1
#23676954 - 09/25/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: I don't care about talking about this publcly because I dont deal, but I used to know a family with a chemist and they had a ton of low quality 60% blotters that hardly circulated. Whenever they made the high purity stuff it would come and go in a flash. The effects between the different purities were obviously different, to many people.
Im a chemist. This is all confirmation bias/anecdotal evidence. Until there is clinical proof between identified chemical "A" and biological response "B", then these threads will continue to go nowhere.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23676956 - 09/25/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't believe so.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23676970 - 09/25/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I_was_the_walrus said:
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Hobozen said: I don't care about talking about this publcly because I dont deal, but I used to know a family with a chemist and they had a ton of low quality 60% blotters that hardly circulated. Whenever they made the high purity stuff it would come and go in a flash. The effects between the different purities were obviously different, to many people.
Im a chemist. This is all confirmation bias/anecdotal evidence. Until there is clinical proof between identified chemical "A" and biological response "B", then these threads will continue to go nowhere.
There's nothing wrong with anecdotal evicence if it's not meqnt to be taken as absolute proof. But I agree that this will continue to go nowhere.
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