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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23676980 - 09/25/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
No fucking way that LSD turns into DOC, no matter the % of its purity.
Well, I am here to educate you. There are several ways to convert LSD in to the psychedelic amphetamine, DOC. First is through natural degradation, next if you leave your lsd out under moonlight beside orgonite crystals(very effective) and also an extraction using patchouli and naptha.
Toothpaste tek?
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: stzacrack] 1
#23677024 - 09/25/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm a chemist as well. I take food and convert it to poop, then huff the poop. Jenkem. If you let the jenkem stay in the balloon long enough, it converts to food grade nitrous. Kinda full circle.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: vandago]
#23677051 - 09/25/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's the conversion from food to shit?
Shroomery vendors?
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: stzacrack] 1
#23677079 - 09/25/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please tell me I don't need to waste my evening typing an explanation about how LSD is LSD & the only difference between purities is potency, and there are no qualitative differences again. I'm really not in the mood.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: vandago]
#23677084 - 09/25/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Eat 350ug of 60% LSD and compare it with 200ug of 99% and get back to me. Most people will be able to notice the difference. I know this for a fact.
Every LSD trip is different. Your mind is NEVER EVER in the same place. When you take LSD it amplifies your mindstate, warps it, twists it, OF COURSE there is a difference. Every. Single. Time. It doesn't matter what crystal it is.
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Hobozen said: I don't care about talking about this publcly because I dont deal, but I used to know a family with a chemist and they had a ton of low quality 60% blotters that hardly circulated. Whenever they made the high purity stuff it would come and go in a flash. The effects between the different purities were obviously different, to many people.
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vandago said: If it's less than 50% pure, a friend told me he knows a guy that went to school with someone who's cousin's little sister's BFF's boyfriend ate just 1 dose and now he thinks he's a glass of orange juice and won't let anyone touch him because he thinks he will spill.
I trust my friend 100% on this.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen] 1
#23677100 - 09/25/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23677173 - 09/25/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Yes, once it gets below 70% it turns in to DOC, that's why there is so much DOC blotter out there, it's just old paper. DOC is known for vasoconstriction, custie member Zombi2 toed the line and ate too much. He paid the iron price of toes. Never again will he scratch his leg with his foot.
No fucking way that LSD turns into DOC, no matter the % of its purity.
Well, I am here to educate you. There are several ways to convert LSD in to the psychedelic amphetamine, DOC. First is through natural degradation, next if you leave your lsd out under moonlight beside orgonite crystals(very effective) and also an extraction using patchouli and naptha.
True story.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: dixienormous]
#23677177 - 09/25/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Vandago, the reason people's backs ache when they're on LSD isn't because of "bad posture", although it can contribute to it. The reason is because of vasoconstriction. Usually the neck and lower stomache are most effected in specific
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Sheekle]
#23677184 - 09/25/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also giving urself a back massage on LSD feels sooooooo goooooood
I always do it during the comeup, releases a ton of tension
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23677193 - 09/25/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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how do you give yourself a back massage? do you have one of those massager sticks
also vandago stop wasting so much acid why would u eat 15 doses before work that's retarded u shouldn't be proud of having such a high tolerance get it together
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
#23677199 - 09/25/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about.
We can tell.
Half of you.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: vandago]
#23677211 - 09/25/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Every LSD trip is different. Your mind is NEVER EVER in the same place. When you take LSD it amplifies your mindstate, warps it, twists it, OF COURSE there is a difference. Every. Single. Time. It doesn't matter what crystal it is.
Yeah, it does.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen] 3
#23677228 - 09/25/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No it fucking doesn't. You have no idea what you're talking about. God damnit, I'm sick & fucking tired of having to constantly dispel this same myth. I'm not typing it up again. I'll dig up another post I made & copy/paste that. Take a seat; class is in session.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
#23677246 - 09/25/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Calm your horses there bud. The evidence is on my side. With every drug I've tried, higher purity = better experience. Simple. Fucking. Math.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
#23677251 - 09/25/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen]
#23677268 - 09/25/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to see this evidence. I'm very interested.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#23677298 - 09/25/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anecdotal evidence coupled with the fact that with any drug, higher purity = better experience, is more substantive evidence than what I've seen come from your side of the argument. All you guys got is your 20k postcount posturing.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Hobozen] 3
#23677302 - 09/25/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Calm your horses there bud. The evidence is on my side. With every drug I've tried, higher purity = better experience. Simple. Fucking. Math.
No, the evidence is not on your side. It's on mine, because I'm right. Now sit back, and learn. This is a post I made on another forum. I've made countless other posts with the same information all over the shroomery. LSD is an long term area of interest. I've spent over a decade researching it, taking it, and spent a few years distributing it....wound up high on the chain. I moved on from that work years ago, and my life path is very different these days. But I'm an expert on LSD. I defer to folks like Dr. Nichols of course. But LSD is an area an expertise for me, and I do not tolerate misinformation like this dirty acid/clean acid bullshit.
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Nope. That's a myth. A proven myth. We know a lot more these days. The impurities are inactive. They don't bind to the receptor. The binding changes the receptor, and causes a chain reaction which leads to the experience. Tons of studies have been done on pharmaceutical LSD. And these studies show the same exact distribution of the same exact side effects you see today. This variance is even seen within the same individual from trip to trip.....even if the same exact dose is used. If you truly want to learn about & understand LSD better you should look into the book LSD; Spirituality & the Creative Process. It details the longest running single study with LSD. Participants were dosed from the 50s through the mid 60s. Every participant was given 2 micrograms of LSD per kilogram of bodyweight, and given this dose multiple times. This was Sandoz LSD; ie pharmaceutical LSD. The study details all of the effects, from psychedelic to side effects & everything in between. Again, you see the same side effects & variation in trips as today. LSD has side effects. Beyond that, it's an incredibly powerful mind altering substance that alters one's perceptions to a mind-belong degree. As such it's incredibly sensitive to the most minute detail. The difference you've felt in trips had nothing to do with the LSD. It was you. Everything from set & setting to how much/quality of sleep you've over the past few weeks, diet, hydration, stresses, whatever bugs you're body is grappling with, the work week, interactions with random people....things you can't even think of that are going on within your body's cells, the weather, what people said about the doses, etc.....it all adds up. By it's very nature the psychedelic experience is variable.
Years ago I was involved in the distribution of LSD. To me it was a sacred thing that I did because I felt it needed to be done. Let me clarity that this was a long time ago, and that part of my life is long over with. But I was high up enough to know what we were working with. And I watched as down the line, folks changed the name of what it was to sell it. Some would call it silver, others fluff, others needlepoint, others yet needlepoint fluff, the clear. Some even called it an old batch of Owsley dug up for whatever special occasion. And people bought into the sales pitch, and attributed different effects to the doses. They felt that the fluff/needlepoint was cleaner, smoother & the silver had more side effects; it was speedier, you could feel it in your jaw, back, etc. They really felt this, and were adamant about the difference & that they could feel it. But it was all the exact same LSD crystal, laid to the exact same dose, at the same time & by the same people. There was absolutely no difference in the LSD itself. Only thing different was what crystal it was being sold as. And that was enough to totally skew the experience. Because that's how powerful LSD is...that's how deep it seeps into your mind. Just a name can change the experience. We're talking about a drug that allows one to feel, smell, taste & see sounds.....among myriad other sensory effects. The "difference" the impurities cause? That's all in your head & has nothing to do with the impurities. It's the LSD + myriad other factors that all coalesce to provide the experience. It's just that most folks buy into the bullshit & blame the LSD for any negative effects. It's not the LSD; it's you.
I gaurantee that if I gave you 200 mics of 50% pure d-LSD crystal, and 100 mics of 99.9% pure d-LSD crystal you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Furthermore, if I gave you those & said the 50% pure stuff was fluff & the 99.9% pure stuff was lavender laid stronger to compensate for the impurities, you'd be telling me that the "fluff" was way cleaner & smoother, whereas the "lavender" had much more of a body load & was a rough ride. And you'd really feel it too. That's the power of the mind. It's all in your head. I've see what I just described played out thousands of times....and that's not an exaggeration.
Go to the library, amazon.com, Barnes & Noble....wherever, and pick up that book; LSD Spirituality & the Creative Process. Again, it's a compilation of raw data from real study with Sandoz LSD. And the sample size is big enough for the data to be statistically significant. Read that, and learn some facts about LSD. Not some wook-perpetuated lot myths. Actual facts. Also look into Dr. David Nichols. He's the world's foremost expert on LSD, and has been studying it for decades. He was also the only person with a DEA license to make LSD.....obviously for research only.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
#23677331 - 09/25/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You bring nothing substantial to the table yet again. Of course LSD trips will have differing effects on different trips depending on your mental set. Nobody is arguing that. But different purities or batches of LSD do have a different base effect, which can be distinguished if you have 100s of ravers sampling and testing your product. Not everyone will be able to notice the difference and that's why this is a never ending argument. Human sensitivity is a real thing and it determines how able you to feel things that others might not be able to.
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Re: LSD Purity and Subjectivity Involving Positive Experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
#23677342 - 09/25/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damnnnnn kid
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