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Noobie worried and needs help
#23676177 - 09/25/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brand new to growing and concerned about how this first flush is acting..I think it started out well but now it seems to me as if only one fruitbody is continuing to grow right in the center of the cased tray...wondering if maybe the substrate is too dry, if so , is there a way to directly hydrate it? Gonna try to figure out how to post a pic in hopes it might be helpful. Any advice is appreciated. Note: This tray has been in fruiting conditions for about 8 days. The largest fruit body in the center measures 1.2 inches.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676183 - 09/25/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Solo_71 said: is there a way to directly hydrate it?
misting it?
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Tira]
#23676187 - 09/25/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tira said:
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Solo_71 said: is there a way to directly hydrate it?
misting it?
Yea mist it
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: spore-ty]
#23676195 - 09/25/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That substrate looks a little fucky too
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: spore-ty]
#23676203 - 09/25/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: bodhisatta]
#23676214 - 09/25/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Misting and fanning several times a day. Entire tek done by the book. Not sure what could be wrong with the substrate. I mist the walls and top of the chamber. Is it ok to directly mist the tray itself?
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23676225 - 09/25/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that was a point of confusion for me..In the tek I saw the guy drilling in the bottom of the chamber and I couldn't figure out how he kept the perlite from coming out so I didn't do it. I did go easy on the holes because I was worried about contaminations and thought that fanning often would be a sufficient supplement.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676246 - 09/25/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23676319 - 09/25/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, Youtube tek videos aren't always totally comprehensive and often leave unanswered questions. I came here to get some advice and insight because I just picked up this hobby and I'm interested in growing cubes and some regular edibles. You seem to be unable to give advice without being rude and condescending, so I guess Shroomery is just the wrong place for me to be. Thanks anyway jerkoff.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676332 - 09/25/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676339 - 09/25/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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amidogen said:.
Seriously though...if you thought that was rude and condescending you're going to have a rough time when someone actually is rude to you.
Mrmazdarx9 enters the room...lol
He's not being a jerk or whatever your claiming to have "done it by the book" or some shit but nothing you are doing is correct. Your fruiting chamber is wrong yes you drill the bottom perlite won't fall out of 1/4" holes Why do you think spraying the walls is right would that satisfy your thirst if I threw your drink on the wall? You may be following a tek but the wrong one or at least a very outdated one
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23676363 - 09/25/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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please do not use youtube as a learning source. its entertainment...cooking and cat videos are cool too.
the shroomery is a place to go to school/be taken to school.
my best teachers never held my hand. they showed me the door but i needed to open it.
sometimes we dont like being told we are doing things wrong. and mushrooms seem to make people take things extremely personally. people are trying to help. dont be a winnie
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: mushboy]
#23676425 - 09/25/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23676502 - 09/25/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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drilled holes in bottom and more on sides..recharging drill to do the top. Huge numbers of pins on the edges of the substrate..now, rub my shoulders and tell me if I should take it out of the tray and put it on foil.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676548 - 09/25/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Solo_71 said: Ok, Youtube tek videos aren't always totally comprehensive and often leave unanswered questions. I came here to get some advice and insight because I just picked up this hobby and I'm interested in growing cubes and some regular edibles. You seem to be unable to give advice without being rude and condescending, so I guess Shroomery is just the wrong place for me to be. Thanks anyway jerkoff.
You can't imagine how many beginners come here everyday with similar problems that they could have solved just by using the search engine or reading the stickies. When you try to help each one of them, you face the same problems again and again. If you want to help everyone, you gotta leave being polite aside be straightforward like he did with you. So, don't get mad, we're all just trying to help you here .)
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Solo_71 said: drilled holes in bottom and more on sides..recharging drill to do the top. Huge numbers of pins on the edges of the substrate..now, rub my shoulders and tell me if I should take it out of the tray and put it on foil.
I would take out that substrate and let it fruit freely if it has side pins.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676553 - 09/25/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71] 1
#23676556 - 09/25/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Build a SGFC to spec. You can mist or "bottom water" to help hydrate the substrate. Bottom watering involves pouring a bit of water down the side of the sub, let it sit there for 12-24 hours and carefully pour off any excess that has not be sucked up by the myc. You got pins and fruits it's far from gone just tweak a few things and follow a real tek. People are giving you solid advice. Expect to be called out on inaccuracies. If they are being helpful best to consider the advice, you feelings are irrelevant if the advice is genuine which is the case here. Read the link below regarding SGFC's follow the tek without deviation for best results.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676573 - 09/25/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Solo_71 said: ..now, rub my shoulders and tell me if I should take it out of the tray and put it on foil.

id leave in the tray. taking it out and blahblah is too much human interference if you catch my drift. i like to spawn and fruit and leave alone. only misting and giving plenty of FAE. fucking with things always jacks it up for me.
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amidogen said: You could also search for people who have done successful tray grows and see how they did it.
first grows in trays in a tub.
 far from 100% successful never got massive canopies or monster fruits but for a newbie doing almost half of my first grow completely WRONG i was happy with the results.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676588 - 09/25/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is the guy whos info I have been following to the letter, other than the holes in the tub. Soaked rye for 24 hours boiled 10 minutes with gypsum. dried, jarred and inoculated. lids made with 2 layers of tyvek and after injection, covered with single layer medical tape. Casing is made according to the recipe in the video. Peat moss, verm, gypsum and calcium carbonate. He said to put in fruiting chamber once surface was colinized 20%. I did so but let it sit in chamber for several days with the foil lifted slightly. Took foil off tray when I saw more growth and the surface was covered completely. I'm inexperienced and have no idea what the results should look like at this point. I'm mostly concerned because is seems like the one fruitbody in the middle seems to be the only one progressing at this point. Already did 10 years in the joint, been out for three and now I'm full of cancer, so there is little possibility of fucking my life up, but thanks for your concern.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23676597 - 09/25/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats lets grow mushrooms.(your link didnt work but i youtubed it) by RR(rogerrabbit)
follow the tek 100%. i know you said by the book or whatevere but you did admit to skipping a step..(holes in bottom of sgfc)
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23677010 - 09/25/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23678900 - 09/26/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I suppose time is somewhat of an issue....in reality it is for everyone. Some more than others. My mother made it almost 8 years, but they caught it rather early and it wasn't a good 8 years. She subscribed to conventional medicine. So far I have refused. Gives things an interesting perspective when you actually allow yourself to comprehend the brevity of things. Anyway, take a look at this thing and tell me what you think. I think it is stunted..I've seen no growth for days. chamber is full of holes and I suspended it above cardboard wrapped in foil. it is sitting on rocks that I sanitized with 91% alcohol.

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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23678925 - 09/26/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23679011 - 09/26/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes..it had just been misted. I took that shortly before I posted it. I misted assuming it would loose moisture while I had it out of the chamber to drill a few last holes. Uh...I just wrapped the cardboard in foil to create a stable base. I don't have shot glasses so I sanitized some aquarium rocks i had laying around to get it up off the foil. I will be adding a cake to the chamber either today or tomorrow, not sure. It just colonized the full surface of the jar yesterday and I would let it go another week as most recommend, but it is pinning in the jar, so I figure I better birth it. Should I dunk and roll with it pinning? These cakes may be a little different. Couldn't find brf , but I found organic rye flour and used that instead...seems to have done ok but took a long time. They were inoculated on aug. 12. Just now fully colonized. Anyway, I also wanted to mention that I mist with ro water. My tap water is high in chloramine so reverse osmosis is the best thing I have readily available..I've had a few jars contaminate..built a spot in a flowerbed with manure, verm, straw, peat, and some gypsum pellets. broke up about 4 jars and layered it in...keeping it moist. Hoping it will try to do something at some point. I water the outside bed with water out of a large fish aquarium when I do water changes...about twice a week. I've dug around in it while adding more substrate and I see myc growth. Not sure when I could expect anything to pop up..maybe not until next year, I don't know.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23679021 - 09/26/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23679027 - 09/26/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm seeing contrary opinions in the forums...Should I sterilize the verm for dunk and roll?
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23679037 - 09/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Solo_71 said: I'm seeing contrary opinions in the forums...Should I sterilize the verm for dunk and roll?
You don't need to sterilize verm for dunk and roll.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Tira]
#23679108 - 09/26/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's good to hear..saves me the trouble...I guess I'm committed now...just ordered petri dishes and agar mix...let the fun begin.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23679122 - 09/26/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh, oh oh..nuther big question...I saw a video where this guy shot 2 syringes of sterile water into a brf cake jar..shook it up gently then extracted water. Claimed that it was now a viable myc culture syringe...does that work? I have been unable to get a successful liquid culture started. just wondering if this is a legit tek?
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23679397 - 09/26/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23683104 - 09/27/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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have taken the advice offered here and all of my pins have turned black and blue...so I start researching...you guys mocked me about spraying the walls and top of the chamber to increase humidity..remember? "what good does it do if I bring you a drink and throw it on the wall?" So i discover through searching that some dead guy named fanaticus says that the very first rule is to never directly spray the fungus.
It all starts with the spray from the hand sprayer. The first rule is to never directly spray the fungus. This initial spray is comprised of water droplets that are giant ponds of water in relation to the fine mycelial networks of the fungal threads. In culture, the droplet of water will drown the micro world of the fungal structures and thereby inhibit or contaminate growth. But the airborne molecularized water floats into the fine structures and gives the fungus humidity as needed. Molecularized water is another way of describing water that has evaporated into the air.
Now my grow is seemingly ruined, everything has bruised, the caps all turned black and aborted. Good looking out.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23683302 - 09/27/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats from the original pf tek written decades ago.
my advice was to leave it alone and not fuck with it.
how much water did you mist with? was it straight water or did you add rubbing alc?
sometimes misting can cause bruising but thats if you myc was jacked to begin with. at least IME.
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: mushboy]
#23683318 - 09/27/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone sprays their sub's directly with water if yours went wrong there's something else wrong. If what your saying is true a 24 hour dunk would kill everything before you start. If you posted pics we could probably point to what's going on
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#23683713 - 09/27/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: amidogen]
#23683999 - 09/27/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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amidogen said: It's not like we're just some assholes sitting here throwing theories around. We've all grown this species successfully with these methods.
preach brother!
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: mushboy]
#23692792 - 09/30/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Noobie worried and needs help [Re: Solo_71]
#23693032 - 09/30/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks OK to me Not a massive flush but for a first flush not too bad. Also the aborts are also plenty potent so pick and eat them too
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