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Patlal
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You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help
#23674616 - 09/24/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is probably the best image explaning the diffrences between the left and the right. If the image is too small, zoom in.

Thoughts.?
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Edited by Patlal (09/24/16 05:04 PM)
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Patlal] 2
#23674641 - 09/24/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They both suck and get pretty much everything wrong all the time.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23674652 - 09/24/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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are you left or right?
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: trees]
#23674684 - 09/24/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to pick a political party I'd go libertarian. Not because I agree with the party but because I definitely do not agree with how the red or the blue actually work. Both of them would rather argue about silly things and slap band-aids on gunshot wounds while ignoring some seriously glaring problems.
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Edited by CookieCrumbs (09/24/16 05:29 PM)
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#23674711 - 09/24/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's childish to define yourself or your beliefs based on someone else's party system. No leftist agrees with all the left, and no righty goes all right.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Patlal]
#23674773 - 09/24/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can be a democrat or in the general "left" without being a pacifist.
Just one thing I saw, otherwise it's a good pictorial of America's political parties.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Patlal]
#23674820 - 09/24/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: This is probably the best image explaning the diffrences between the left and the right. If the image is too small, zoom in.

Thoughts.?
no. it doesnt help because it's horse shit
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: TNK] 1
#23674822 - 09/24/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheNatureKid said: You can be a democrat or in the general "left" without being a pacifist.
you're right, even obama has proved himself a war monger
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23674824 - 09/24/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to pick a political party I'd go libertarian. Not because I agree with the party but because I definitely do not agree with how the red or the blue actually work. Both of them would rather argue about silly things and slap band-aids on gunshot wounds while ignoring some seriously glaring problems.
what would those problems be
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Patlal]
#23674865 - 09/24/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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highly over simplified and unhelpful, one aspect I especially disagree with: pragmatism vs idealism. The right and left in different manifestations are both given to idealism, and both to pragmatism in various iterations. I really think the whole left/right thing is more of a nuisance than helpful these days, best to decide on an issue by issue basis based on, you know, facts rather than ideology
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23674888 - 09/24/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to pick a political party I'd go libertarian. Not because I agree with the party but because I definitely do not agree with how the red or the blue actually work. Both of them would rather argue about silly things and slap band-aids on gunshot wounds while ignoring some seriously glaring problems.
what would those problems be
In a few words and as an over simplification: our economic model. Not capitalism per say but consumerism. It is the root to most of the country's problems. It needs to be rebuilt 1000x more than healthcare ever did.
And I understand that there are very few extreme democrats and republicans. But my thing is, while I agree with nearly the same amount of ideas on either side, I generally don't agree with how they go about them. I'm a moderate that doesn't exactly pick a piece of each platform but rather I say there are better alternatives to both that have a much better chance at balancing than anything either usually comes up with. I disagree with both platforms as a whole and as such I don't feel right calling myself a moderate. That would imply that I agree with one side about some issues. That might be true but in my life time the policies implemented by both sides have been a complete shit show.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: TNK]
#23675032 - 09/24/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Democrats can be right minded. Republicans can be left minded.
Communist/Socialist States can be closer aligned with the right, while Democratic/Republic States can be more in favor of the left.
It can go any which way, up, down, left and right. Some totalitarian countries are closer to the left while some free democratic countries and closely tied to the right.
Politics and terminology is a world of colorful rainbows.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23675091 - 09/24/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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CookieCrumbs said: If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to pick a political party I'd go libertarian. Not because I agree with the party but because I definitely do not agree with how the red or the blue actually work. Both of them would rather argue about silly things and slap band-aids on gunshot wounds while ignoring some seriously glaring problems.
what would those problems be
In a few words and as an over simplification: our economic model. Not capitalism per say but consumerism. It is the root to most of the country's problems. It needs to be rebuilt 1000x more than healthcare ever did.
capitalism is an economic model, consumerism is an individual philosophy, it's the person that decides they'll go into massive debt to have the 90 inch TV and the gas guzzling SUV that they trade in before the tires go bald
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And I understand that there are very few extreme democrats and republicans. But my thing is, while I agree with nearly the same amount of ideas on either side, I generally don't agree with how they go about them. I'm a moderate that doesn't exactly pick a piece of each platform but rather I say there are better alternatives to both that have a much better chance at balancing than anything either usually comes up with. I disagree with both platforms as a whole and as such I don't feel right calling myself a moderate. That would imply that I agree with one side about some issues. That might be true but in my life time the policies implemented by both sides have been a complete shit show.
keep in mind that the political parties holding office arent what you're seeing on TV and those that arent of the 2 big parties are rarely what they seem, sure, you can hear all day about how the republicans blocked some education bill or a marijuana bill but what you dont hear is that the democrats did the same and both sides did so because what little piece you're hearing about was only one provision of a massive spending bill or a surveillance bill and it seems no one ever asks why the bills were blocked. anyway it goes, both parties are the same and the 3rd parties are filled with fools
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: TNK]
#23675117 - 09/24/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: keep in mind that the political parties holding office arent what you're seeing on TV and those that arent of the 2 big parties are rarely what they seem, sure, you can hear all day about how the republicans blocked some education bill or a marijuana bill but what you dont hear is that the democrats did the same and both sides did so because what little piece you're hearing about was only one provision of a massive spending bill or a surveillance bill and it seems no one ever asks why the bills were blocked. anyway it goes, both parties are the same and the 3rd parties are filled with fools
That paragraph makes me think you're not getting what I'm saying at all. Cuz what you're saying sounds basically like what I'm saying.
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TheNatureKid said: Democrats can be right minded. Republicans can be left minded.
Communist/Socialist States can be closer aligned with the right, while Democratic/Republic States can be more in favor of the left.
It can go any which way, up, down, left and right. Some totalitarian countries are closer to the left while some free democratic countries and closely tied to the right.
Politics and terminology is a world of colorful rainbows.
This is very true. And every color is filled with suck.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: Prisoner#1] 3
#23675166 - 09/24/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think this image explains it much better,

Notice how the left and right arms are a part of the same body,and it's not just the left and right arms, but there's also the left and right foot, head, front and back, etc., etc..
A government is basically a decapitated body.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: zZZz]
#23675231 - 09/24/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Might be right in theory, but couldn't be further from the truth in current affairs, especially for the left. Look at their actions, not their words.
I don't really identify with either party and do agree with some democrat side of things in picture but know damned well voting democrat would be the worst of my options. Given how things are today, any step towards decreasing government oversight( especially self governing federal agencies... I'm looking at you DEA, FBI, ATF, FDA... shit all of them) is a step in the right direction.
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: luvdemboomers]
#23675272 - 09/24/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ure in denial my friend..
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23675274 - 09/24/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
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Prisoner#1 said: keep in mind that the political parties holding office arent what you're seeing on TV and those that arent of the 2 big parties are rarely what they seem, sure, you can hear all day about how the republicans blocked some education bill or a marijuana bill but what you dont hear is that the democrats did the same and both sides did so because what little piece you're hearing about was only one provision of a massive spending bill or a surveillance bill and it seems no one ever asks why the bills were blocked. anyway it goes, both parties are the same and the 3rd parties are filled with fools
That paragraph makes me think you're not getting what I'm saying at all. Cuz what you're saying sounds basically like what I'm saying.
remember Mitt Romney? he was a moderate, Barack Obama was a moderate, even John McCain was a moderate, Hillary Clinton is a moderate. both sides are filled with moderates and guess what... there are no actual moderates, just career politicians
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: zZZz]
#23675278 - 09/24/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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zZZz said: I think this image explains it much better,

Notice how the left and right arms are a part of the same body,and it's not just the left and right arms, but there's also the left and right foot, head, front and back, etc., etc..
A government is basically a decapitated body.
your argument is invalid
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Re: You can't understand how the Left or the Right thinks? This will help [Re: zZZz]
#23675284 - 09/24/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Ure in denial my friend..
about what?
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