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shroombasa
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Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it!
#23674565 - 09/24/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Three weeks ago, I inoculated pasteurized wheat straw - hot water bath, if anyone's curious - with Aloha's Swordbelt spawn at a rate of 10% wet weight into 6" diameter mini-logs. This was mostly out of curiosity and I didn't expect much out of it.
Well, a day before I left on a 5 day vacation - 14 days after inoculation - one of the 3# logs started putting off pins. I was pretty damned surprised considering it was sitting at 75F, but thought, "what the hell, it's a fluke".

I got back 3 hours ago and found this.

These all grew in open air (50-55% RH), at 70-75 degrees, in less than 3 weeks. 12% wet weight BE from the three most mature mini-logs. I'm in love!
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: shroombasa]
#23674592 - 09/24/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those look awesome! How do they taste?
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Ferather
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: shroombasa]
#23674620 - 09/24/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have got to try the all natural tek if you can do that at 50% Rh. That will get amazing BE, water when needed, walk away.
Any chance of a trade, not available in the UK.
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Ferather
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Ferather]
#23674655 - 09/24/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Turns I can get Black Poplar, so no trade needed. Added to my list of mushrooms to grow.
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JanuaryWolf
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: shroombasa]
#23674693 - 09/24/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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SWEET! Those are nice looking mushrooms. I'd also like to know what you have to say about their taste.
I got a LC syringe from mycosymbiotics a couple weeks ago, it's taking off on grain but I'm still a few weeks out from getting it to bulk sub. I hope they like growing as much as yours did, Aloha has really good cultures.
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: JanuaryWolf]
#23674705 - 09/24/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm currently mulling over spawn to buy from Aloha, you might have sold me on this, are they fairly marketable?
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Ferather
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23674715 - 09/24/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here we go, Agrocybe aegerita. It seems to have a few unique variations.
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shroombasa
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23674917 - 09/24/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Turns I can get Black Poplar, so no trade needed. Added to my list of mushrooms to grow.
I tried the Sporeworks strain a few months ago on straw, pretty much the same setup. They pinned but stopped dead pretty soon after. I think a lot of it would be strain dependent.
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Marty Mycfly said: I'm currently mulling over spawn to buy from Aloha, you might have sold me on this, are they fairly marketable?
I'm honestly not sure about their marketability as I've yet to sell a single mushroom in my life . I just started my commercial grow ambitions a few weeks ago and I'm sitting on ~600 lbs of sub at the moment waiting to head into the FC. This was more of an experiment really. I'll have 40 lbs of oysters to sell in the next week or two, but I think given these results I'll probably have to think about making this a regular species to grow. This was from a culture I took from the Aloha sampler pack and it's incredibly aggressive, on par with oysters IMO. The texture on these guys is firm and crunchy. It seems like they'd hold up pretty well in the fridge.
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Marty Mycfly said: Those look awesome! How do they taste?
Thanks! I just got back from the grocery store, so I hope to find out soon. Baguette with goat cheese and mushroom duxelle!
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: shroombasa]
#23674947 - 09/24/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That looks like it's gonna be tasty. So about that sampler pack, what else have you fruited and liked out of it?
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Ferather
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: shroombasa]
#23675825 - 09/25/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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shroombasa said:
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Ferather said: Turns I can get Black Poplar, so no trade needed. Added to my list of mushrooms to grow.
I tried the Sporeworks strain a few months ago on straw, pretty much the same setup. They pinned but stopped dead pretty soon after. I think a lot of it would be strain dependent.
Sounds like a challenge, Swordbelt vs Black poplar. Same strain different variation. It can be confusing, people incorrectly label variations as strains.
Species: Agrocybe Strain: Aegerita Variation: Black poplar
Species: Agrocybe Strain: Aegerita Variation: Swordbelt
I'm guessing Black poplar has changed in requirements.
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Chk
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Ferather]
#23675852 - 09/25/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agrocybe is the genus , not the species
and a strain is a lower taxonomic rank, used "below" the species
Genus : Agrocybe Species : A. Aegerita Strain : Swordbelt
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Ferather
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Chk]
#23675872 - 09/25/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahh thanx. So variations still fit under the strains? Still learning, confused myself lol.
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Chk
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Ferather]
#23675896 - 09/25/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have a look on wikipedia it's explained in details there
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drake89
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: Ferather]
#23676213 - 09/25/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Ahh thanx. So variations still fit under the strains? Still learning, confused myself lol.
The strain is the variation within a given species. Black poplar doesn't have too many commercial strains around so most people grow swordbelt.
Take shiitake for example, there are many strains that are all shiitake but different growth and fruiting morphologies, 75, 3782, PS1, TS1, etc...
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Quadman
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Re: Swordbelt is crazy, awesome, crazy awesome, and I love it! [Re: drake89]
#23676762 - 09/25/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is an Italian strain that I've read about . Someone on Shroomery had a grow, they looked like excellent yields and I think they were comparing to Swordbelt . Asheville Fungi has the strain.
Looked it up it's name is Atricoz
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Edited by Quadman (09/25/16 04:15 PM)
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