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My true, greater self
#23674453 - 09/24/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. I'm currently a Sophomore studying computer science. My main joy in taking shrooms is the connection to my true self. I feel alive and free like never before - I realize how stagnant, predictable my life is when sober. On shrooms, I am not nervous or afraid anymore; I go after what I want and no one, especially myself, is holding me back from getting it. Connecting with people is so much easier, I'm more cool and confident, my self-esteem is higher, my life is finally what I want it to be. I feel like a grown man.
All I do now is think about how to become this person all the time. How do I reach this mindset? Would opening my third eye help? I want to achieve this as soon as possible - so I don't keep wasting my college days.
Thanks all for reading and understanding.
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23674610 - 09/24/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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fortunately the experience is self limiting and if you are a clever person, you will catch on to that.
you build a life that supports special sessions and those sessions inform the life you build.
you cant stay in the groove but you can return frequently. It's a systems thing.
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I'm sorry. I'm having trouble understanding. What do you mean by self limiting? And special sessions?
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23674746 - 09/24/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ha ha you can't go more often than 4 days part way you can't go all the way more often than 90 days apart those are the special days on other days you have to be human
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I know exactly what you mean OP.
It is very much a higher self.
Perhaps it is who we are when the physical is no longer the focus - survival in this physical realm.
..as mushrooms take me to a sacred dimension or at least this real world without filters or survival circuits.
So. Beautiful.
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23675151 - 09/24/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found meditation extremely helpful for figuring out what was stopping me getting back to that place in my sober life.
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: viktor]
#23675361 - 09/24/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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viktor said: I found meditation extremely helpful for figuring out what was stopping me getting back to that place in my sober life.
meaning you go there sober without being stopped?
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My early experiences with seeing beyond were naturally generated as a consequence of schizophrenia.
It's certainly possible to experience the same high you get on a psychedelic without having taken a drug.
It's just very difficult and I have never encountered a reliable formula for getting there.
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23675553 - 09/24/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybin is an agonist that acts to stimulate and inhibit the sympathetic nervous system(fight or flight).
With that in mind if you want to achieve the same mindset you'll have to learn to mediate the impulses of you sympathetic nervous system by 'letting go' of your instinctive sensations. You'd have to stop listening to the impulses of your gut feelings and start processing experience with only the feelings of your heart and the thoughts in your mind.
Too often our gut instincts are misleading and can end up causing us unnecessary stress.
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Edited by sudly (09/27/16 05:16 PM)
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: sudly]
#23677326 - 09/25/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's gotta be a way to feel this cool and confident even without the mushrooms. When i'm tripping I'm consistently telling myself I am a man. A real man - strong but tender, confident not cocky. This is what being a grown man feels like. Once all the masks and never ending thought cycles are removed, you become your bare self. I remember on my most recent trip, I kept thinking about having a simpler life; less anxiety and problems so that you can truly be your limitless self.
What is it that makes me nervous around cool people, shy around hot girls, afraid to truly express myself to family? What does shrooms do that solves all of these problems for me?
Man my head hurts..
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23677462 - 09/25/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is it that makes me nervous around cool people, shy around hot girls, afraid to truly express myself to family? What does shrooms do that solves all of these problems for me?
What makes you nervous is an over stimulated sympathetic nervous system and fight or flight response. This is because in modern times the fight or flight response constantly misfires, e.g. getting nervous when walking through a crowded area.
The fight or flight response was used to warn of physical dangers, nowadays we do not face anywhere near as many physical dangers as we did when our ancestors were still hunter gatherers, so it's going off when there is no real physical danger.
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: swimwithme]
#23679004 - 09/26/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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GABA is known to inhibit excitation and Phenibut may be a boon for you.
Suds bit lazy to look it up but my experience is flight/fight response anxiety followed by inhibition after ingesting Psycillycybe. Hows that work?
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: sudly]
#23679029 - 09/26/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a very interesting perspective. Have you had any success with controlling your body's fight or flight response?
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Re: My true, greater self [Re: Jaegar]
#23679063 - 09/26/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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fear is unprepared awareness. it is better to act than re act. fear causes physical effects. part of ordered awareness is learning to identify the effect and its cause. it is then possible to ameliorate the dis ease.
the mind must be trained to intercept the fear response. teach yourself everytime you are afraid, feel the symptoms building physically. know your triggers, such as a barking dog. when a dog barks, turn the fear signal off, re absorb the physical response as fast as possible, control your breathing. become supra aware of what is happening, you are learning an important lesson.
as you gain control of your awareness, your response to a fear can be confined to the mind. there it can further be broken down and eventually dissolved. fear left in the body causes physical dis ease.
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you cannot prepare for unexpected things, but you can practice falling and getting up again.
a fear reaction is too fast to control, or to intercept, but when you are in it's thrall you can begin again to get your footing and continue by beginning again each time you fall or are knocked off your path.
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redgreenvines said: you cannot prepare for unexpected things
absolutely false
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a fear reaction is too fast to control, or to intercept
absolutely false
these are your opinions, not facts
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some facts can become opinion, when you know what you are talking about.
who has conquered fear in the moment?
some have performed aggressive and heroic acts in spite of fear, or while afraid, but when fear kicks in the chemistry and mental reflex is really something that does not un start.
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if you expect something then it is not unexpected, that is very simple.
would you like to substantiate your claims?
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my claims are from experience
yours are also
many have conquered fear
you have not
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well when was the last time you were afraid?
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it has been a long time, brother. in this life, i have been mostly fear free, which nearly killed me several times. many of my fear free friends did check out rather early.
i have learned to be concerned, then to act.
last fear i can remember is not wanting to disappoint my mother. she had expectations for me that i knew i would not meet. eventually, she kicked me out of her life. we both moved on, and my fear was dead.
we have gunfire around here often. the initial reaction is a break in awareness, then a physical wave of energy, the muscles tensing to flee. cloudy thoughts and shaky hands set in. as the shots continue, dread emerges from the belly, the fear of death.
i experience all the cues for the above, but none of the symptoms. the mind can be trained in this way very easily. fear is a type of awareness, which must be clarified. fear of death is most of the problem. when fear is rightly seen as erroneous, it can be transmuted. it is possible to use the mind to stop the physical feelings of fear. much training must be done. do you have something better to do?
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