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panaeolus species ID needed
    #23674218 - 09/24/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

[flash=,]http:/ [/flash]Habitat:
Where does it grow - HORSE TRAILS BY HORSE POOP GROWING FROM WOODCHIPS.
State - NEWYORK_ ROCHESTER AREA.

Gills:
Greyish, black.

Stem:
REDDISH

Spore print color: JET BLACK

Bruising: NONE OTHER THEN RED

Other information: SMELLS LIKE A NORMAL MUSHROOM


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674239 - 09/24/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The shots are small and don't show great detail. A couple of larger, good close-ups will help.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed *DELETED* [Re: Joie]
    #23674312 - 09/24/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674345 - 09/24/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Here is a more detailed picturehttp:/


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674484 - 09/24/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those appear to be Psathyrella sp, not Panaeolus.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674535 - 09/24/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ty for the additional shot.

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Psathyrella sp.




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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Joie]
    #23674567 - 09/24/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think these are psathyrella species.... ?

And if so , what kind of psathyrella? So i can do a comparison... jet black spore prints? Reddish bruising stem? It doesnt add up to me. Ive gotten other replies from other mushroom identification sites and forums... all stating its panaeolus fimicola or panaeolus cinctulus???


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674572 - 09/24/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, that is a Panaeolus. I'm not sure which one. More pictures showing the underside of many specimens, preferably in good lighting, not so close up and more in focus could help.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Byrain]
    #23674654 - 09/24/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately i already put them in the oven at low temp, but here is a spore print http:/


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23674683 - 09/24/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Spore print color wont really help since they all have jet black spores. It could be an non-active species. :shrug:


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Joie]
    #23674776 - 09/24/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That, and look at the first picture with the uprooted mushroom. The stem is not right for panaeolus. Looks like a dead ringer for psathyrella.

I agree with Joie, the substrate is also wrong even if that's poo soaked.

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ty for the additional shot.

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Psathyrella sp.







Personally I'd toss them. I don't see short fat pans that cluster so hard right out the gate.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Adden]
    #23674859 - 09/24/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There was psathyrella growing in the area, again, i would like to what kind of psathyrella it is.. because if you look at my other posts on this site i always stir controversy over what i think is panaelous of some sort. Now i am unsure because again i am recieving mixed ID's. I have even been so sure i dosed 12 grams last time i found these and definately felt some active serotonegic alkaloids and a slight psilocybin feel. I really want to put this to rest and find out for sure.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Adden]
    #23675242 - 09/24/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can see mottled gills in the last picture, there are at least some Panaeolus in those photos.


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: Byrain]
    #23676966 - 09/25/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

BUMP here are some more pictures please help me ID them because I have over a poundhttp:// [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-38/483566784-image.jpg][/url


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23676971 - 09/25/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23676977 - 09/25/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those pictures are too small to be helpful


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23677036 - 09/25/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i don't know how to make the pics bigger, anyways... There is a lack of a definate answer but I believe my batch to be panaeolus not psathyrella


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Re: panaeolus species ID needed [Re: elemi]
    #23677073 - 09/25/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Still looks like Panaeolus to me, but even if the pics were bigger telling you which one would not be easy.


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