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Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry
    #23673283 - 09/24/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is to add to 100g: Wood, straw, paper pellets.

1.25g > Miracle-Gro® SPF.
20g > Raw Tea.

Measure your desired amount of hot water, add the raw tea leaves.
Mix well, then add your additives, mix again well.

For use as a grain soak, add no additives.

It is now ready for use with pellets.



Antibacterial properties of tea.
Tea as an oyster substrate.


Edited by Ferather (10/20/16 02:00 PM)


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23673330 - 09/24/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Miracle-Gro® SPF

   


Miracle-Gro® LPF

   


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23674390 - 09/24/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Here is an analysis of tea in cups, raw having more potency.

Notice the various, rich carbon sources.
And energy boosting vitamins.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23681480 - 09/26/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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For use as a grain soak, add no additives.





So if you were using this to soak grains, are you saying you would then add these nutrient rich myceliated grains to the fruiting substrate without additives? That the grains would be nutritive enough for the fruiting substrate to need no further supplementation be it, wood, straw or paper?


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: JanuaryWolf]
    #23682161 - 09/27/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No, not saying that at all. I would not use any additives with grains, as I posted.
Enriched is for substrates only, plain is for pre-soaking grains.

Enriched: To add nutrients and carbons to substrates.
Grain soak: To reduce bacterial activity.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23786998 - 10/30/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hm

What do you think of tea infusion with good old feed molasses added?


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Melchizedech]
    #23787609 - 10/31/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Molasses is a sugar, something to avoid. Sustained growth on sugar causes genetic loss and mutations.
Essential sugars are at a 0.5-2% ratio, 100% starch is safe, which is why we use starch.

There are other sources other than starch though, gets complex now!

Bacteria love sugar and starch as much as a fungus.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23794798 - 11/02/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

THanks for the reply.

Could you point me in the direction of " Sustained growth on sugar causes genetic loss and mutations." ? I mean, where I could learn about that?


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Melchizedech]
    #23794916 - 11/02/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In my pocket guide, there is a link to Paul Stamets guides.


Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms:

" From my experiences, simple sugars, while they may support growth, are not recommended as strains can not
  be maintained for long without promoting mutation factors, senescence, or loss of vitality."

Page 91, right column.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23799918 - 11/04/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So, to clarify this rambling paragraph ...

You're suggesting using tea in either grain soak water and/or water used to hydrate paper pellets, correct?  The theory being that this would provide some additional anti-microbial benefits.

The process that you outline below is:

For every 100g of wood, straw, or paper pellets ...
  • Add 20g tea leaves (I'm not sure what "raw tea" is vs tea leaves) to your desired volume of hot water.
  • Add 1.25g Miracle-Gro SPF to this mixture (only for wood, straw, or paper pellets ... not for grain soak water)

Then proceed with either tek as usual.

Is that correct?

Quote:

Ferather said:
This is to add to 100g: Wood, straw, paper pellets.

1.25g > Miracle-Gro® SPF.
20g > Raw Tea.

Measure your desired amount of hot water, add the raw tea leaves.
Mix well, then add your additives, mix again well.

For use as a grain soak, add no additives.

It is now ready for use with pellets.



Antibacterial properties of tea.
Tea as an oyster substrate.




Edited by adadada (11/04/16 07:30 AM)


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: adadada]
    #23800025 - 11/04/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thats correct adadada for the anti-microbial effect, nutrients and energy.
Tea water counts as a weak fertilizer with vitamins and energy.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23806490 - 11/06/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Thats correct adadada for the anti-microbial effect, nutrients and energy.
Tea water counts as a weak fertilizer with vitamins and energy.




I like the idea of tea water, and I think it could certainly be helpful as it has shown to be helpful for plant growth as well.

Although I do frown upon the miracle-grow add. Their potting soil is horrible, so I guess I'm biased, but I'd rather not buy from them.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Melchizedech]
    #23806786 - 11/06/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Here is another I will be also trying at some point, this stuff is clear.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Ferather]
    #23813476 - 11/08/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Here is another I will be also trying at some point, this stuff is clear.




Yeah I'd rather not buy from those guys either. Very poor ethical history.


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Re: Antibacterial, enriched raw tea slurry [Re: Melchizedech]
    #23815463 - 11/09/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well just use any soluble that labels a good amount of nutrients if possible.
Else experiment, be careful of organic ones, added bacteria.


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