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This just in, men can have babies now! * 6
    #23672725 - 09/24/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If the title of this one doesn't confuse you..
Is this the world's most modern family? Man who used to be a woman gives birth to a baby by woman who used to be a man

:cookiemonster:

Personally I think they might be a little confused about what constitutes male and female. It's not possible for a female to impregnate a male, fortunately.

Female (♀) is the sex of an organism, or a part of an organism, that produces non-mobile ova (egg cells). Most female mammals, including female humans, have two X chromosomes.

A male (♂) organism is the physiological sex that produces sperm. Each spermatozoon can fuse with a larger female gamete, or ovum, in the process of fertilization. A male cannot reproduce sexually without access to at least one ovum from a female, but some organisms can reproduce both sexually and asexually. Most male mammals, including male humans, have a Y chromosome, which codes for the production of larger amounts of testosterone to develop male reproductive organs.

Now I mean, good for them and whatever.. but you can't call yourself a man with functioning ovaries and womb... man card revoked.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 4
    #23672731 - 09/24/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Poor kid  :horrified:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: SuperFly]
    #23672734 - 09/24/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Watch their kid be the first voluntary hermaphrodite :lol:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: SuperFly]
    #23672738 - 09/24/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Eh old hat. The first "man to have a baby" was 10 years ago. There was a TLC special on it.

Though this is way more complex. I dunno. :ohwell:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 14
    #23672750 - 09/24/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23672800 - 09/24/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Must be hella awkward walking around as a female->male tranny and be pregnant at the same time.

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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: falsereality]
    #23672811 - 09/24/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you're born with an X and Y chromosomes you're a man if not then you're a woman.  This article is so misleading :lol:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #23672892 - 09/24/16 02:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the male was probably a female really effed up on drugs...warpin her appearance :/ :sad:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23672903 - 09/24/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There goes the neighborhood.

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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism]
    #23672971 - 09/24/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is all so confusing! :wtfsonic:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23672982 - 09/24/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Eh old hat. The first "man to have a baby" was 10 years ago. There was a TLC special on it.

Though this is way more complex. I dunno. :ohwell:




Right? I remember reading about that story a long time ago. Thomas Beatie, I think his name was.

I have to admit, he looks pretty handsome for a TG male.





Some of these trans guys are surprisingly attractive, I would never know if I bumped into this guy on the street



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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Crystal G]
    #23673146 - 09/24/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

so basically a dude put on a dress, called himself a woman, and banged a woman who dressed up like a dude who called herself a man


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23673151 - 09/24/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those guys used to be female?!

Holy FUQ! :incredible:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #23673156 - 09/24/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 4
    #23673175 - 09/24/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What about seahorses? Think about the seahorses.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 6
    #23673186 - 09/24/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

trainspotting called it



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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: 28064212]
    #23673213 - 09/24/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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trainspotting called it





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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 7
    #23673256 - 09/24/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You're confusing terms. "Man" is a gender label.  "Male" is a sex label.  Gender and sex aren't the same thing.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 3
    #23673257 - 09/24/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673267 - 09/24/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You're confusing terms. "Man" is a gender label.  "Male" is a sex label.  Gender and sex aren't the same thing.



Really? Who says?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673281 - 09/24/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, I just did.  You didn't see my name at the top of the post you quoted?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673347 - 09/24/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol, I just did.  You didn't see my name at the top of the post you quoted?



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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673374 - 09/24/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Enlil is right .

Male is a sex term and you can have a male frog or a male fish.

Man is a social construct / gender and involves social roles that are not physically determined such as "only men can be priests" or "men wear pants instead of skirts" . In other words male is biological and man is social, cultural and behavioural .


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23673379 - 09/24/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Who makes these rules?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673384 - 09/24/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Society


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673386 - 09/24/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well their stupid and always overcomplicate things. To me a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

Edit: by no means do I judge(except for my opinion of society. Its still the same)


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673391 - 09/24/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone agrees with you on that.  The disagreement is whether man or woman is determined by genetics or social norms.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #23673393 - 09/24/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well their stupid



Lol, their stupid but your smart.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673398 - 09/24/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What if means to be a man or a woman varies from culture to culture and man or woman means different things in different societies .

Male and female is universal and means the same thing everywhere .

For example, in Islamic countries a woman is expected to cover her body as part of her expected social role, while in America a woman can wear a bikini if she wants . But both the American woman and the Islamic woman have ovaries and a vagina .

Sex is the underlying biological reality, gender is the set of social roles and expectations that is erected over top of sex .

In some cultures women are gatherers and men are hunters . This is a gender role, not something inherent to sex .

Gender determines how people dress for example, if they wear make up or not, how they style their hair.

Sex is anatomy.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673399 - 09/24/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I understand its a matter of perspective but does it really need to be?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673406 - 09/24/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing needs to be anything.  It's the curse of being human, however, to attempt to define and understand things.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 4
    #23673429 - 09/24/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If the title of this one doesn't confuse you..
Is this the world's most modern family? Man who used to be a woman gives birth to a baby by woman who used to be a man

:cookiemonster:

Personally I think they might be a little confused about what constitutes male and female. It's not possible for a female to impregnate a male, fortunately.

Female (♀) is the sex of an organism, or a part of an organism, that produces non-mobile ova (egg cells). Most female mammals, including female humans, have two X chromosomes.

A male (♂) organism is the physiological sex that produces sperm. Each spermatozoon can fuse with a larger female gamete, or ovum, in the process of fertilization. A male cannot reproduce sexually without access to at least one ovum from a female, but some organisms can reproduce both sexually and asexually. Most male mammals, including male humans, have a Y chromosome, which codes for the production of larger amounts of testosterone to develop male reproductive organs.

Now I mean, good for them and whatever.. but you can't call yourself a man with functioning ovaries and womb... man card revoked.




You sound exactly like one of those penis-hating radfems.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23673449 - 09/24/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well well well....Look who came back. :eek:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23673500 - 09/24/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never said I was leaving altogether.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: SuperFly]
    #23673505 - 09/24/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23673523 - 09/24/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23673537 - 09/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i can only imagine what that life will be like, unique to say the least


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23673552 - 09/24/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hardly unique, just rare. And whatever genitals/gonads a person has shouldn't have any impact on how they raise their kids. But thanks to sensationalist media and reactionary busybodies, that is not the case here.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #23673568 - 09/24/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

no but being all over the media probably will.


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    #23673580 - 09/24/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is just like when gays adopting was in the news and a bunch of bigots showed up to say "those kids are gonna be screwed up!!!" it's like, yeah... Because of people like you. :wow:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23673633 - 09/24/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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This is just like when gays adopting was in the news and a bunch of bigots showed up to say "those kids are gonna be screwed up!!!" it's like, yeah... Because of people like you. :wow:




I think this is a clear step beyond gays adopting (which I'm 100% for). I feel a little iffy on this topic because of how new the sex change procedures are, and along with test/whatever supplementation, to the point where you can actually change your superficial sex, we aren't aware yet of the side effects from a developmental perspective.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: falsereality] * 3
    #23673663 - 09/24/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They aren't really new, but it's true we don't really have any good data to answer that question. But if we are going to be getting into the business of picking and choosing who should and who shouldn't be allowed to have children, we should probably stop irresponsible people from having kids before we start worrying about transsexuals.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say, without any evidence to back it up, that a broken home with parents who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth does more harm to a child's psyche than a stable and loving home with one or more parents who are trans.

Typical double standard... If we discuss measures to prevent cis people who are unfit to be parents from having kids, we will hear cries of eugenics. But if trans people want to adopt we need evidence proving that it's safe.


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    #23673684 - 09/24/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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They aren't really new, but it's true we don't really have any good data to answer that question. But if we are going to be getting into the business of who is and who isn't allowed to have children, we should probably stop irresponsible people having kids before we start worrying about transsexuals. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say, without any evidence to back it up, that a broken home with parents who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth does more harm to a child's psyche than a stable and loving home with one or more parents who are trans.




Oh, I'm not saying certain people groups should be discriminated against and disallowed to have children, I'm just saying from a scientific perspective, way more data needs to be collected so people can make educated decisions on having children.

If it was up to me, I would say that only people with an IQ< than 110 should be allowed to have children. We have enough retards running around already.


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    #23673693 - 09/24/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23673802 - 09/24/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.



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    #23673815 - 09/24/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's different than having a trans mom-dad and having a trans dad-mom.

Especially because, again, alot of people are going to know (or find out) with the media coverage.


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Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.



I doubt it. The most balanced teen I know has a tranny mom.




I don't doubt it. Most trans women I know have maternal instincts out the wazoo. I'm glad to hear they don't get bullied over it though. :smile:


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I got bullied for being cis-gendered.  They called me cissy


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I never said I was leaving altogether.




Hmmm :strokebeard:

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I never said I was leaving altogether.




Hmmm :strokebeard:

I guess i misinterpretted your post. I thought shroomery was too much of a distraction while you rehab'd your new trans partner :shrug:




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good to hear! :asianofapproval:




She's pretty much back on her feet already in terms of financial security, so yeah, the whole situation went amazingly well. It's really disturbing to see the mental health of somebody you care about rapidly deteriorating before your eyes without much hope for getting better, and that's where she was before she moved in, so I prepared myself for the long haul. But I only had to do some extra work to suport her for a week or so and she just pushed off. Just a little bit at the right time can make all the difference. I'm gobsmacked by how rapidly she's recovering in terms of her emotional condition. She is strong as hell, believe you me, and I'm really excited for our future together.


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You're confusing terms. "Man" is a gender label.  "Male" is a sex label.  Gender and sex aren't the same thing.



I can a person born with X and Y chromosomes a man, male ect ect.  You can have all kinds of social policies and definitions but at the end of the day what constitutes a man biologically is pretty cut and dry.


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If you met me without any exposition of my past, you wouldn't hesitate to label me as a woman. You would do that without knowing what shape sex chromosomes I have (even I don't know that actually) or what is between my legs. You would probably continue to do so even if I decided to let you in on it.


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    #23676618 - 09/25/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've ran into a number of trannies over the years who thought the exact same thing as you. They only reason they ever walked away thinking I was none the wiser is because I kept it to myself and didn't broach the subject. Believe me. We can usually tell when something's off.


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    #23676633 - 09/25/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Confirmation bias supported by assumption: the delusional fundie's best friend, also known alias: God

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    #23676671 - 09/25/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Fine. Don't believe me. Or how 'bout you post a picture of yourself on reddit or something and screen cap the results. I think you'll find that people are far more discerning than you think. And that's just a photo. I imagine how much more of a dead giveaway it is in person.


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    #23676688 - 09/25/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Been there done that. Lol. Have you seen my pics? My most prominent masculine features are my high cheekbones and long legs and they just accent my high femininity. I could be a supermodel if I had the patience for the kind of crap that goes into that line of work. Guys hit on me everywhere I go. The other day I popped the hood of my car to refill the leaky coolant tank and three men appeared out of thin air to pretend like they knew the first thing about car maintenance.

If you met me without knowing who I am, there would not be a doubt in your mind that I am a woman. People never know that I'm trans until and unless I decide to tell them. And it is always obvious that they couldn't tell, because the revelation entails conspicuously abrupt changes in attitude.

So tell me more about how sex chromosomes define gender. :wonka:


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    #23677232 - 09/25/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen a lot of pictures of you, and you look like a guy in every one.  I don't think I'd ever mistake you for cis.


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    #23677297 - 09/25/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ditto. I was scrolling through the sexy ladies of shroomery thread one fine evening when I landed on what looked to be a troll post tranny photo. Turns out it was just a confused male shroomery user posting their cross-dresser pictures in the wrong thread.

:wrongway:

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Is that blind sophist?


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    #23677311 - 09/25/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

IME you can't win in these discussions. If you share pictures of super feminine looking trans women, women that look more female than I do by a mile, to try to back your point they will pick the tiniest little thing that is remotely considered to be a 'male' trait and say they're an expert genderizer because of it. When in reality the only thing that actually gives it away is the foreknowledge.


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    #23677345 - 09/25/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, idgaf what they say honestly. I'd look like a dude to them in any of my pictures because they know I'm trans and they think trans women look like dudes. Expectation informs perception.


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    #23677357 - 09/25/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

IMO sophie looks way better as a chick than a dude. I *might* be able to tell something was off by voice, but aside from that, she's done such a freaking fantastic job transitioning that I mentally think of her as a chick now :shrug:.


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I landed on one of your pictures while scrolling the page and the first thought that popped into my head was "this dude is trolling the thread with cross-dresser tranny pics". Then another split second later my eyes registered who had posted it. Honest to God.

Why don't you try posting it anonymously on another message board and let us know the results. I can guarantee you you're not fooling most people.


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    #23677475 - 09/25/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, idgaf what they say honestly. I'd look like a dude to them in any of my pictures because they know I'm trans and they think trans women look like dudes. Expectation informs perception.



I didn't say it to hurt your feelings or to troll you.  I wouldn't have even mentioned it if you hadn't made the outrageous claim that anyone who saw you would see you as a woman. 

It isn't an insult.  No amount of hormones or surgery would ever make anyone see me as a woman.  Some of us just don't have the bodies for it.  You're free to wear whatever you want and identify yourself however you want, but that doesn't mean that most people aren't going to see that you were clearly born with male plumbing. 

I just don't want you to have the illusion that you're somehow fooling anyone, if that's your goal.  It shouldn't even be the goal, truthfully.  You shouldn't really give a shit what others think.


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I still think you're enjoying this way too much


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Is that even possible?  I do enjoy life a great deal, but too much?  I don't even know what that means.


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Yeah, I don't get the sad part, but I do enjoy being a dick...and having one.  This is why I could never be trans.

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Yeah, I don't get the sad part, but I do enjoy being a dick...and having one.  This is why I could never be trans.

See how I got that back on topic?  That's how the pros do it.




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    #23677749 - 09/25/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No they can't. 

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    #23678067 - 09/25/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23678076 - 09/25/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Still can't get over that name, either. Sophistry quite literally means the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving. :goat:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Great Scott]
    #23678445 - 09/25/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good call on deleting that shit shroomism.


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