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Sophistic Radiance said: This is just like when gays adopting was in the news and a bunch of bigots showed up to say "those kids are gonna be screwed up!!!" it's like, yeah... Because of people like you. 
I think this is a clear step beyond gays adopting (which I'm 100% for). I feel a little iffy on this topic because of how new the sex change procedures are, and along with test/whatever supplementation, to the point where you can actually change your superficial sex, we aren't aware yet of the side effects from a developmental perspective.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: falsereality] 3
#23673663 - 09/24/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They aren't really new, but it's true we don't really have any good data to answer that question. But if we are going to be getting into the business of picking and choosing who should and who shouldn't be allowed to have children, we should probably stop irresponsible people from having kids before we start worrying about transsexuals.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say, without any evidence to back it up, that a broken home with parents who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth does more harm to a child's psyche than a stable and loving home with one or more parents who are trans.
Typical double standard... If we discuss measures to prevent cis people who are unfit to be parents from having kids, we will hear cries of eugenics. But if trans people want to adopt we need evidence proving that it's safe.
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Sophistic Radiance said: They aren't really new, but it's true we don't really have any good data to answer that question. But if we are going to be getting into the business of who is and who isn't allowed to have children, we should probably stop irresponsible people having kids before we start worrying about transsexuals. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say, without any evidence to back it up, that a broken home with parents who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth does more harm to a child's psyche than a stable and loving home with one or more parents who are trans.
Oh, I'm not saying certain people groups should be discriminated against and disallowed to have children, I'm just saying from a scientific perspective, way more data needs to be collected so people can make educated decisions on having children.
If it was up to me, I would say that only people with an IQ< than 110 should be allowed to have children. We have enough retards running around already.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: falsereality] 1
#23673693 - 09/24/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear that.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: EllisDSox] 2
#23673707 - 09/24/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BERSERK DESTROYER said: What about seahorses? Think about the seahorses.
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Sophistic Radiance said: Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.
I doubt it. The most balanced teen I know has a tranny mom.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
#23673815 - 09/24/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's different than having a trans mom-dad and having a trans dad-mom.
Especially because, again, alot of people are going to know (or find out) with the media coverage.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
#23673825 - 09/24/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Sophistic Radiance said: Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.
I doubt it. The most balanced teen I know has a tranny mom.
I don't doubt it. Most trans women I know have maternal instincts out the wazoo. I'm glad to hear they don't get bullied over it though.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
#23673840 - 09/24/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: I never said I was leaving altogether.
Hmmm 
I guess i misinterpretted your post. I thought shroomery was too much of a distraction while you rehab'd your new trans partner
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23674644 - 09/24/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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He's a confused lil' girl.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23676179 - 09/25/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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Sophistic Radiance said: I never said I was leaving altogether.
Hmmm 
I guess i misinterpretted your post. I thought shroomery was too much of a distraction while you rehab'd your new trans partner 
She doesn't actually need that much help. She's a giant badass.
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good to hear!
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: falsereality]
#23676243 - 09/25/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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falsereality said: I would say that only people with an IQ< than 110 should be allowed to have child
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23676484 - 09/25/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: good to hear! 
She's pretty much back on her feet already in terms of financial security, so yeah, the whole situation went amazingly well. It's really disturbing to see the mental health of somebody you care about rapidly deteriorating before your eyes without much hope for getting better, and that's where she was before she moved in, so I prepared myself for the long haul. But I only had to do some extra work to suport her for a week or so and she just pushed off. Just a little bit at the right time can make all the difference. I'm gobsmacked by how rapidly she's recovering in terms of her emotional condition. She is strong as hell, believe you me, and I'm really excited for our future together.
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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
#23676566 - 09/25/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You're confusing terms. "Man" is a gender label. "Male" is a sex label. Gender and sex aren't the same thing.
I can a person born with X and Y chromosomes a man, male ect ect. You can have all kinds of social policies and definitions but at the end of the day what constitutes a man biologically is pretty cut and dry.
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If you met me without any exposition of my past, you wouldn't hesitate to label me as a woman. You would do that without knowing what shape sex chromosomes I have (even I don't know that actually) or what is between my legs. You would probably continue to do so even if I decided to let you in on it.
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I've ran into a number of trannies over the years who thought the exact same thing as you. They only reason they ever walked away thinking I was none the wiser is because I kept it to myself and didn't broach the subject. Believe me. We can usually tell when something's off.
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