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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673281 - 09/24/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, I just did.  You didn't see my name at the top of the post you quoted?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673347 - 09/24/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol, I just did.  You didn't see my name at the top of the post you quoted?



You know what I meant lol


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673374 - 09/24/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Enlil is right .

Male is a sex term and you can have a male frog or a male fish.

Man is a social construct / gender and involves social roles that are not physically determined such as "only men can be priests" or "men wear pants instead of skirts" . In other words male is biological and man is social, cultural and behavioural .


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23673379 - 09/24/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Who makes these rules?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673384 - 09/24/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Society


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673386 - 09/24/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well their stupid and always overcomplicate things. To me a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

Edit: by no means do I judge(except for my opinion of society. Its still the same)


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23673391 - 09/24/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone agrees with you on that.  The disagreement is whether man or woman is determined by genetics or social norms.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #23673393 - 09/24/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well their stupid



Lol, their stupid but your smart.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673398 - 09/24/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What if means to be a man or a woman varies from culture to culture and man or woman means different things in different societies .

Male and female is universal and means the same thing everywhere .

For example, in Islamic countries a woman is expected to cover her body as part of her expected social role, while in America a woman can wear a bikini if she wants . But both the American woman and the Islamic woman have ovaries and a vagina .

Sex is the underlying biological reality, gender is the set of social roles and expectations that is erected over top of sex .

In some cultures women are gatherers and men are hunters . This is a gender role, not something inherent to sex .

Gender determines how people dress for example, if they wear make up or not, how they style their hair.

Sex is anatomy.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Enlil]
    #23673399 - 09/24/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I understand its a matter of perspective but does it really need to be?


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23673406 - 09/24/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing needs to be anything.  It's the curse of being human, however, to attempt to define and understand things.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Shroomism] * 4
    #23673429 - 09/24/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If the title of this one doesn't confuse you..
Is this the world's most modern family? Man who used to be a woman gives birth to a baby by woman who used to be a man

:cookiemonster:

Personally I think they might be a little confused about what constitutes male and female. It's not possible for a female to impregnate a male, fortunately.

Female (♀) is the sex of an organism, or a part of an organism, that produces non-mobile ova (egg cells). Most female mammals, including female humans, have two X chromosomes.

A male (♂) organism is the physiological sex that produces sperm. Each spermatozoon can fuse with a larger female gamete, or ovum, in the process of fertilization. A male cannot reproduce sexually without access to at least one ovum from a female, but some organisms can reproduce both sexually and asexually. Most male mammals, including male humans, have a Y chromosome, which codes for the production of larger amounts of testosterone to develop male reproductive organs.

Now I mean, good for them and whatever.. but you can't call yourself a man with functioning ovaries and womb... man card revoked.




You sound exactly like one of those penis-hating radfems.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23673449 - 09/24/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well well well....Look who came back. :eek:


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23673500 - 09/24/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never said I was leaving altogether.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: SuperFly]
    #23673505 - 09/24/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Poor kid  :horrified:




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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23673523 - 09/24/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that poor kid is going to get bullied relentlessly over it.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23673537 - 09/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i can only imagine what that life will be like, unique to say the least


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23673552 - 09/24/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hardly unique, just rare. And whatever genitals/gonads a person has shouldn't have any impact on how they raise their kids. But thanks to sensationalist media and reactionary busybodies, that is not the case here.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #23673568 - 09/24/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

no but being all over the media probably will.


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Re: This just in, men can have babies now! [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23673580 - 09/24/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is just like when gays adopting was in the news and a bunch of bigots showed up to say "those kids are gonna be screwed up!!!" it's like, yeah... Because of people like you. :wow:


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