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Re: Being a white person [Re: yourboybob]
    #23681993 - 09/27/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)





I'll let Louis CK and Peter Tosh do the talking.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23682200 - 09/27/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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God Emperor of Dune (Dune Chronicles, #4)

I know the evil of my ancestors because I am those people. The balance is delicate in the extreme. I know that few of you who read my words have ever thought about your ancestors this way. It has not occurred to you that your ancestors were survivors and that the survival itself sometimes involved savage decisions, a kind of wanton brutality which civilized humankind works very hard to suppress. What price will you pay for that suppression? Will you accept your own extinction?  because I am those people. The balance is delicate in the extreme. I know that few of you who read my words have ever thought about your ancestors this way. It has not occurred to you that your ancestors were survivors and that the survival itself sometimes involved savage decisions, a kind of wanton brutality which civilized humankind works very hard to suppress. What price will you pay for that suppression? Will you accept your own extinction?







would be relevant if that was actually happening. no one is conquering whiteness...not even in America is this remotely happening.

nor in Germany or Sweden. (awaits glorious response. it's ok, i know they will arrive soon, then i can say how it basically is in Germany and Sweden.)



It was relevant to what zzz was saying and I remembered the quote as I had just read it recently. Not everything is an argument for or against whatever you're arguing.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23682211 - 09/27/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what i said wasn't really an argument.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: Asante]
    #23682255 - 09/27/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ifishhigh said:
Being white is hard these days.




These days huh? So you measure how easy it is to be a race not by other racial groups difficulties but by the past of how easy white people used to have it.

So what were the good ole days?

The years where blacks were supposed to STFU and not complain? War on drugs era? Pre civil rights era? Lynching era? Jim Crow era? Back in the days of slavery?

What were the golden days for being white and why was it so?

Why was it so?




Doggerland days was best days for whites.

On an unrelated topic:

THE FUCKING RICH BASTARDS THAT CONTROLL OUR DEMOCRACIES ARE PITTING BLACK AGAINST WHITE TO DIVIDE THE WORKING CLASSES!


And they have been at it for a very long time, too.
Look back at our history! It used to be that Europeans did not think of Africans as inferiour, lesser beings. It changed around the time serfdom got replaced by slavery.

GOD DAMN open your eyes you bloody racist idiots, we're all being played by the diabolical hands of very wealthy and very powerful people. Us working class & middle class folks MUST stand together against the real enemy or else there won't be a middle class anymore, and Asian-style sweatshops will become the norm here. Thus sayeth the Turtletotem.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23682325 - 09/27/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Funny you say that Turtletotem, my father is of the haplotype that lived on doggerland 10.000 years ago hunting mammoths.

My father is whiter than most here, my mother had some Kenya and India in the mix.

A sailor by heart he has the thoroughbred european expansive genes. I grew up sailing on my summer holidays, it was awesome.



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Re: Being a white person [Re: zZZz]
    #23682356 - 09/27/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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lets put it this way:

My ancestors came to this country and butchered the natives, took their homes and independence. They soon made this place their own, started bringing in slaves from Africa, and yea the Africans were selling their own people, but that's only cuz there was a demand for them. So what happens next?, time goes by and the African slaves start to gain a little independence, big mistaky little jakey, so like many years later I am born, I've got it made it, my family has fought in many wars, I guess u could say I gotta a little pull in the system, an upper hand if u may, I own land, my relatives own land, why wouldn't we?, my ancestors killed for this shit, and I'm just suppose to like give it back?, I didn't do anything, take it up with the dead mister.

So now I'm fucked, thanks to u ancestors, thanks for not taking care of ur own karma and leaving me with the dept..




So your ancestors were the early WASP settlers? 

"I own land...my ancestors killed for this shit?"

So the land you currently own today was never paid for, you got it for free? I find that hard to believe.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: Asante]
    #23682401 - 09/27/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Funny you say that Turtletotem, my father is of the haplotype that lived on doggerland 10.000 years ago hunting mammoths.

My father is whiter than most here, my mother had some Kenya and India in the mix.

A sailor by heart he has the thoroughbred european expansive genes. I grew up sailing on my summer holidays, it was awesome.






I have a beard, I can come along!

That is pretty cool, Asante. I got doggerland genes as well, our ancestors hunted rabbits together I bet!

My family is also filled with wanderers and sailors, maybe it's our heritage?


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Re: Being a white person [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23682411 - 09/27/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
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Asante said:
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Ifishhigh said:
Being white is hard these days.




These days huh? So you measure how easy it is to be a race not by other racial groups difficulties but by the past of how easy white people used to have it.

So what were the good ole days?

The years where blacks were supposed to STFU and not complain? War on drugs era? Pre civil rights era? Lynching era? Jim Crow era? Back in the days of slavery?

What were the golden days for being white and why was it so?

Why was it so?




Doggerland days was best days for whites.

On an unrelated topic:

THE FUCKING RICH BASTARDS THAT CONTROLL OUR DEMOCRACIES ARE PITTING BLACK AGAINST WHITE TO DIVIDE THE WORKING CLASSES!


And they have been at it for a very long time, too.
Look back at our history! It used to be that Europeans did not think of Africans as inferiour, lesser beings. It changed around the time serfdom got replaced by slavery.

GOD DAMN open your eyes you bloody racist idiots, we're all being played by the diabolical hands of very wealthy and very powerful people. Us working class & middle class folks MUST stand together against the real enemy or else there won't be a middle class anymore, and Asian-style sweatshops will become the norm here. Thus sayeth the Turtletotem.




"ARE PITTING BLACK AGAINST WHITE"

That's one of the main reasons why they PUT Obama into office, mission accomplished. 

"open your eyes you bloody racist idiots"

You have to give the retards in BLM's a little break, they don't know they're being played as pawns, maybe one day they will wake up.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: qman]
    #23682439 - 09/27/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:

"ARE PITTING BLACK AGAINST WHITE"

That's one of the main reasons why they PUT Obama into office, mission accomplished. 

"open your eyes you bloody racist idiots"

You have to give the retards in BLM's a little break, they don't know they're being played as pawns, maybe one day they will wake up.




Actually, I think we might be in agreement? There's bloody racist idiots with all sorts of skin colours. If the them just manipulated us whiteys to be racist, it wouldn't work very well, now would it?

Shake your brother's hand, and march onward to a better future for all of us and our children!
Just telling it like it is, only for real.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23683560 - 09/27/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When people claim that students that live in poverty have "no incentive to learn" they sound like a fool.  Living in poverty is the highest incentive to learn- in order to bring oneself out of poverty.  Stop making excuses for shitty cultural values.  It isn't necessarily about race, but culture certainly plays a role.  If the parents aren't teaching the children anything while playing music that glorifies violence and drug use then what the fuck do you think is going to happen?  You learn your ABC's through song, what do you think the 4 year old who memorizes the lyrics to Jeezy songs is learning?




Wow, really dude? So you're saying it's the kids fault? Yeah, let's blame children for the racial divide in our country, real smart





:dumbass:
"Wow really dude?"

I blamed the parents and their shitty cultural values for teaching their children to glorify shitty behavior with the shitty music they listen to.  Are you saying a 4 year old chooses to listen to trash ass music?

Being poor is every incentive to learn in order to bring yourself out of poverty.  Racial divide?  There are more total white people living in poverty than any other group.  And guess what?  I was talking about white people as well in regards to shitty values by letting children listen to garbage ass music.

It is a societal sickness and it is everywhere.  I was at Dave & Busters in a Chicago suburb and there was 40" TV sets at ground level playing Nicki Minaj half naked shaking her ass.  Shit's fucked.




I guess I misunderstood what you meant. It sounded to me like blame should be put on children when the idea of that would be nonsense.
While I wouldn't blame "shitty music" to be the only problem among the youth, I would say that some current music is a negative influence on society.


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Re: Being a white person [Re: TedTheHighlighter]
    #23684866 - 09/27/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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