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Love_spirit said: All the evidence points to Africans having inferior intellect and being exceedingly violent and criminal. Africa is a uncivilized shithole. The Africans in the US display the same level of retardation as their African counterparts. Almost all whites are too cowardly to admit what's in plane sight. they don't want to upset the savages or appear "racist". The finger pointing and vilification of the police force needs to end. Blacks need to start taking responsibility for their actions. We all need to stop putting the idea out that they're the victims when they're the ones committing most of the crime.
how do you explain intelligent blacks then, non violent blacks, or the correlation between poverty a lack of education and criminal behavior, and the correlation between -in the us- being black and being poor and/or poorly educated? Also if whites are inherently superior, why do the whites in these ghetto communities act as the blacks do, committing similar crimes, also contributing little to society etc, and what of rednecks and trailer trash?
really posting this sort of rubbish ought to be worthy of a ban imo
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I have to say I believe today politicians are using raciest/bias/prejudice, rhetoric against us to 'divide and concur'
Most seem to use the term raciest and prejudice interchangeably, which they are not.
Most times what is called racism is just prejudice.
theirs nothing inherently wrong with prejudice, it's a survival instinct that has served us well and continues to (not to down play the negative effects thow).
--- prejudice 1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. 2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
Is a crime any worse of a crime becouse of the reasons why it was committed ? ?
All this racism rhetoric is nothing but a attempt for society to self censor it's self, and it works. When we self censor we can not openly explore some of today's problems, or we risk major backlash.
We are different in many ways to pretend any different is lying to yourself, And we pass these traits on to the younger generation to further the issues.
Most of today's polices that try to mend the problems of racism/prejudiced have the exact opposite effect. Forced integration creates anger and hostility in most cases (not to mention they are mostly prejudiced themselves).
As long as their have ben people who identify differently racism/prejudice has existed and it will continue to exist. The only thing we can do is minimize the negative effects of it.
By the way im a white american of eastern europen decent, My family and people have a very long history enslavement in the US and abroad that most conveniently forget. Why is this ? ? Politics
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ezuma]
#23675629 - 09/25/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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in the pub it probably is, but then again, Pris might hand down a for "redneck" or "trailer trash" too
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Love_spirit said: All the evidence points to Africans having inferior intellect and being exceedingly violent and criminal. Africa is a uncivilized shithole. The Africans in the US display the same level of retardation as their African counterparts. Almost all whites are too cowardly to admit what's in plane sight. they don't want to upset the savages or appear "racist". The finger pointing and vilification of the police force needs to end. Blacks need to start taking responsibility for their actions. We all need to stop putting the idea out that they're the victims when they're the ones committing most of the crime.
I would agree with you if you substituted 'African American CULTURE' for Africans.
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Re: Being a white person [Re: LIBERTYNY] 2
#23675637 - 09/25/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that the issue of race is intentionally being used to divide the underclasses, and distract from a bigger issue which is class. Races after all, are essentially visibly identifiable classes, stereo typically, with blacks being considered y default part of the underclass, whereas whites get a bit more benefit of the doubt perhaps, but the difference between a poor black man and a poor white man aren't so great as many would like us to believe.
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Re: Being a white person [Re: ballsalsa]
#23675639 - 09/25/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: in the pub it probably is, but then again, Pris might hand down a for "redneck" or "trailer trash" too
lol true
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ezuma]
#23675647 - 09/25/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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And many public schools in poor communities are severely under funded shitholes.
Blacks are disproportionately poor due to slavery and then all the downtrodding leading up to the civil rights movement. There hasn't been enough time or resources to balance all that out yet. The great grandfathers of black people of today lived in a world where they were hated and distrusted and forced to live in those shitholes. Two generations isn't as much time as people think it is to move on out of social constructs alone. That's why ideas of racism and male dominance are still around. Obviously its. Not the glaring prejudices and bigotry of our grandfathers time, but small subtle remnants of that culture do still exist.
In much the same light, one generation is entirely about small biding recovery, still fighting for equal rights on more specific and local issues. So the grandparents of these people also likely dealt with alot of bullshit and racist fueled inequality. And it is their parents generation that had the legal playing field and outright prejudice was finally evened out. Many worked hard and moved out in these generations. But still in more than enough many could not overcome their living situations, personal lack of resources or their family's history and got stuck, in one way or another.
It will continue to improve. As long as this bullshit helpless victim mentality doesn't consume everyone. As it seems apt to.
Don't think love spirit's post is worthy of a ban, but I do find it a bit silly how the lack of education are the fuel behind both problems.
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true, and i suppose allowing all opinions to be expressed is really preferable since one can then openly counter and dismiss ideas which otherwise would simmer under the surface, and even seem to gain some validity due to censorship so ya I agree
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ezuma]
#23675680 - 09/25/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do know white business-owners and bosses who refuse to hire white people.
Instead they hire Mexicans, who work hard.
Poor white boy. Has to stay at home on the couch drinking beer all day . . .
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ezuma]
#23675681 - 09/25/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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We are all people and fuck most of them 
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23675690 - 09/25/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah, the chortle of bigoted white men alone in conversation having a cigar and drinking fine scotch talking about the good old days when slavery was still the right of every good American. Ah yes. That's how it usually goes.
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CookieCrumbs said: And many public schools in poor communities are severely under funded shitholes.
They certainly are shitholes, but you get what you pay for. And poor neighborhoods pay very little in compared to other area's. Much of the money their district gets is from state funds. State funds stolen from other area's. And what they do have is often horribly mis-managed by their district Wealth re-distribution BS.
It can be difficult to fell bad for someone who believes stealing is their right.
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Re: Being a white person [Re: LIBERTYNY] 1
#23675715 - 09/25/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not what I said, or implied, but I can't argue with a lot of the points. It is rather rare that middle-class would do their shopping in the ghetto. And considering large numbers of the residents being on food stamps... Yeah there is very little money circulation in the areas in general which limits jobs and limits pay. Fewer people have cars and often fewer people feel safe in such places waiting for a bus. I imagine its difficult just to scrap up the cash just to go outside the area and apply for jobs. And with most applications being online these days, that's another bus trip to the library. I'd personally not want to be getting home after dark in the ghetto.
Dunno about measurable difference in the hardships of color, but it sure as fuck is hard to be poor.
Before anyone jumps on me, I know alot of low income neighborhoods are relatively safe, or safe enough to use public transportation, and even poor people often have cars and smartphones. Again the point is that considerably more in the lower class have none or few of these things we tend to take for granted.
Class. Not color.
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amen sir/mam/other (whichever is appropriate)
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CookieCrumbs said:
And with most applications being online these days, that's another bus trip to the library.
Most of the homeless people I see have smart phones.
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Re: Being a white person [Re: Ezuma]
#23675738 - 09/25/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was rather under privileged and temporarily homeless at one point in my life. I can only imagine how difficult and how much time it would have taken if my family didn't intervene and help pull me back up to my feet.
Honestly I'd have probably committed suicide or have gone down the tube with drug addiction and theft. Starving and being stuck when most of the world assumes you get handed things in life for being lazy, no matter how hard you actually work, really fucks with a persons psyche after a while. It has always frustrated me to no end that a persons merit in life is determined by their ability to work for money.
And the government doesn't help when they just simply throw money at people under certain incomes.
Only churches do that. And even then you have to follow what is recognized by the church.
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And with most applications being online these days, that's another bus trip to the library.
Most of the homeless people I see have smart phones.
Indeed I've seen alot of homeless with smartphones these days, compared to what it used to be. Though I do also think this is a regional thing. As a HOMELESS person, if you don't have a smartphone then you may as well have nothing. Most of the places in the country do not have payphones anymore and homeless people tend not to be treated all that nicely when asking to use someone's phone. And good luck getting a job without a number. Or even an ambulance.
Impoverished people who have housing (especially government housing) though is a bit different. They often have landlines instead. There is little incentive to carry around something that costs more and is cconsiderably more likely to be lost or stolen than the alternatives if you don't NEED it.
But you're right in general a surprising number of poor people have smartphones. And that alone gives them a load of resources they wouldn't otherwise have. For that reason, unless I am mistaken, there are programs and charities that give out prepaid smartphones.
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Ifishhigh said: Being white is hard these days. If your proud to be white you can be labeled a racist. If you like Donald trump you can be considered a racist . Am I suppose to feel guilt about what happened to black people in the past. I personally don't feel bad because i had nothing to do with it.the us is fucked up country man. If your white these days your a devil price of shit.
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Ifishhigh said: Being white is hard these days.
These days huh? So you measure how easy it is to be a race not by other racial groups difficulties but by the past of how easy white people used to have it.
So what were the good ole days?
The years where blacks were supposed to STFU and not complain? War on drugs era? Pre civil rights era? Lynching era? Jim Crow era? Back in the days of slavery?
What were the golden days for being white and why was it so?
Why was it so?
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CookieCrumbs said: And many public schools in poor communities are severely under funded shitholes.
Here's two stories about public schools in minority communities, it has NOTHING to do with money.
My buddy had a co-worker at his insurance company, he is a brilliant math genius and left his job to teach high school math at a large high school with a high minority population. This guy lasted a whole two weeks at the job, all he got was insults and ridicule from the black students, nobody was there to learn.
A friend of my family (26 year old woman with 2 graduate degrees) just took a teaching job at a middle school with a high minority population. She has only been on the job for 3 weeks and she's also ready to quit. All she gets is shit from all of the students and the administration because she has standards, they truly resent a white woman trying to get things done the proper way, they don't want any standards.
She was also trying to report abuse that a student said was happening in their home life, the administration told her to mind her own business and her job was to teach.
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