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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Jenny_Baker]
#23672908 - 09/24/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: vandago]
#23672943 - 09/24/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never understood the fly to b Peru and do a powerful psychedelic*oral DMT* in the middle of the woods at night with people you don't know
Sounds horrible
I rather do this at home or in nature I'm familiar with
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Shroomism]
#23672953 - 09/24/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah I read about that when it happened. A shame. But you're right most likely a heart attack from an underlying condition. There has been quite a bit of shadiness surrounding the 'ayahuasca tourism' industry mainly because it experienced a huge surge in popularity As with anything where there is opportunity some people will try and take advantage of it.. so you end up with some quasi shamans who took some 2 week class trying to take advantage of westerners, or people trying to make it into some money making scheme I recommend reading that thing I posted it's a pretty good read and goes into some of those details
How do you tell what is a legitimate ceremony and what isn't?
I mean, I can imagine that real shamans probably wouldn't be advertising on the internet, and you probably wouldn't be able to go to one without "knowing somebody" who can get you in.
What about something like this? http://www.ayahuascacostaricaretreat.com
I found another one that's much cheaper, under $300 for 5-day lodging and an ayahuasca ceremony, and they also have a peyote sweat lodge ceremony for $70: http://www.solcircle.org/ev/forest-call-prices
This place actually looks pretty legit, they don't even require payment and only suggest a donation of $20 per person for the ceremony. This place is in Peru I think: http://sacredvalleytribe.com/sweat-lodge-ceremony/
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Crystal G]
#23672964 - 09/24/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I went to Peru a couple years ago and paid a guy like 600 bucks to take me and my brother hiking for 5 days up to Machu Picchu. That was a really unsketchy adventure and worth doing if youre still trying to go to Peru. We also brought shrooms on the plane and ate them in the mountains.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Shroomism]
#23673328 - 09/24/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: It's been used medicinally for thousands of years.. there's plenty of legit shamans. But with the rise in popularity came a big rise in fakes.. Sweat lodges should be free, or they charge like 30-50 max for a ceremony to cover the costs. Not this $5-10,000 fucking bullshit.
This, so much. However, there are places that maps is working with i think? I remember looking further into it and its about 2k or just under for two weeks and multiple sessions.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: 404] 4
#23673351 - 09/24/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to participate in a ceremony, but I would not do a retreat there. There are so many awesome things to explore in Peru. I feel it would be a waste to spend the whole time tripping in a hut.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23673354 - 09/24/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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vandago said: It's mainly fake shamans, people on meds taking MAOI's, improper prep, and people capitalizing on the tourism from the brew.
they're all fakes cashing in on the new found popularity of aya
Make sure your shaman went to university and all of his government shaman certifications are up to date. Check out the shaman sex offender registry to make sure that your shaman doesn't have a history of rape or touching people's feet after they pass out from all the drugs he gives them.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23673453 - 09/24/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well if it were legal to make it in north america people wouldnt have to go see fake shamans and get raped. As for the people dying its their job to research the drugs they do. I understand the dangers of maois which is why i havent even touched my syrian rue yet and when i do i will use cation. If drugs were legal doing research on important things like interactions with other drugs would be encouraged. So both of these problems could be fixed if psychedelics were legal.
The only part of that which wouldnt be fixed is people flipling out. Thats always going to happen when psyches are involved thats just a risk we have to take. Ayleast loosing your shit wont get you raped and killed in south america though.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23673460 - 09/24/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Losing your shit WOULD get you raped and killed in South America though.
I think you meant it wouldn't in North America
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Sheekle]
#23673467 - 09/24/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im saying if you have access to ayahuasca here and were taught to research drugs you wouldnt Have to go to SA and get raped or die. My bad.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Sheekle]
#23673470 - 09/24/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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One time i heard a story of a guy who did a ayahuasca ceramony, and the kid accidently fell off a cliff!
Than the fucking "shaman" (not sure if he was a real one or not) tried to cover up his death but got caught anyway.
Some people! 
Who can u really trust in peru?
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23673481 - 09/24/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do people think is worse?
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Shroomism]
#23673484 - 09/24/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have participated in three ceremonies right here at home. Fortunately I have found a shamanic group I trust and the brew seems safe and therapeutic .
The only problem is the price keeps climbing and is already too expensive for me.
I prefer DMT- much cheaper , less demanding of time and more potent .
I do still plan to take 3 ceremonies in a Peruvian lodge some day; but I'll certainly do a Lot of research.
Being dosed with nightshade is the biggest concern for me.
It's like people cutting shit with fentanyl here. Putting nightshade in ayahuasca 
I wish people would stop romanticizing nightshades as if they had some shamanic value.
They are the NBOMEs of the psychedelic plant world .
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23673489 - 09/24/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Atleast in the NA jail you wouldnt still be on ayahuasca while you were being raped or killed.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23673498 - 09/24/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah you'd just be on shitty spice and seroquel
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23673575 - 09/24/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: What do people think is worse?
i choose tripping in the US with zero chance of being thrown in jail
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23673591 - 09/24/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Who can u really trust in peru?
this guy... he looks trustworthy
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23674367 - 09/24/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say that the trip on aya in the city goes with the people who are raised/brought up in the city. The trip for people brought up in the jungle is a jungle trip. I was not raised in a jungle so I have no desire or need to go to a dangerous place to feel "more connected" or "to have the full aya experience" in a jungle setting. My living room is the safest best place for me to experience DMT/Ayahuasca.
I tried the brew twice and puked before I could actually experience a "trip". The people in the jungle did not know about pure grain alcohol for extracting goodies from plants. I do. SO, a crude extract made from Syrian Rue and MHRB got me to a place I never thought I would be, and I was safe and sound in my own place. I also have used the STB DMT, and rue extracted with grain alcohol placed in capsules, this was an astounding experience as well with slight to no nausea. There is absolutely no need to go to a jungle, risk ones life, and waste a ton of money.
The experience in the city goes with the person raised in the city, and the experience in the jungle goes with the person raised in the jungle. Step out of ones comfort zone and it could go very badly very quickly.
Tyrannical rex/Urban Shaman.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#23674386 - 09/24/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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OMG bro, you didn't even get your cert.
The school of life can only teach so much.
I guess if you didn't get your cert in the jungle you wouldn't understand.
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Re: People getting raped and drugged at Aya ceremonies in Peru [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23674492 - 09/24/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL @ jungle cert.
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