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Looking for some tripping advice
    #23670711 - 09/23/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have tripped 4 times on some homegrown Golden Teachers, but the experience seems to be pretty disappointing.
My first two trips, 1.5g and 2.5 were just meh, heavy feeling in the body and some color enhancement but no visuals or interesting thoughts.
Next time I consumed 3.5g, had some good time but still no visuals just some fragmented thoughts but at least the music sounded better.
Since I'm looking for some spiritual experience, not just to get high yesterday after a 3 week rest i took 5g of mushrooms, and like in all my previous tries, I made it into a tea.
Half an hour later I started to feel the effects and after 1 hour I was tripping hard. I kept touching my face, but it didn't felt like mine,
everything become brighter and i started to hear some increasingly intense ringing in my ears,
so I switched off the computer and the lamps, laid down in my bed covered my eyes and waited for something.
And nothing came, I tried to think about some heavy issues I have, but couldn't keep a coherent thought for more than a second
so I laid on my back and during the peak heavy waves washed away my sanity for a few seconds, leaving me in a buzzing black nothingness.
I drank the tea with the mushroom parts at 19:40, and at 23:30 I was sitting in my room tired, with a headache, took a shower, and went sleeping.
None of my trips had any emotions, or even philosophical thoughts, i have some problems that could use a different perspective, but I'm not sure what am I doing wrong.
Do I need a higher dose? I'm afraid I just blackout on a higher amount.
Please give me some tips how to make my next trip more spiritual, I approached the mushrooms with respect and proper preparation,
but I gained nothing out of them, not even a nice mindfuck or any crazy visuals.

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Mortal]
    #23670786 - 09/23/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

One of the most important pieces of advice I have ever received on doing anything hallucinogenic was to never ever go looking for you trip or to try and force it . Just sit back and relax, focus on you in a passive manner and just let the thoughts and experiences come to you.  I could also say to drink plenty of orange juice or take vitamin c pills to help enhance everything and help to level off s9me of the peaks and valleys of your trip.  Maybe next time just eat them plain instead of making a tea?  Just some good for thought and I hope it helps.

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Roominraggy]
    #23670803 - 09/23/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with above but let's try to get to the root of the cause here.

Firstly, did you use multi spore genetics? Multi spore genetics are a crap shoot, maybe you got weak genetics.

Secondly, how are you making the tea? I boil water, bring it down to a simmer and add shrooms and let it brew for 15 minutes then strain and add lemon juice or citric acid for converting psilocybin to psilocin.

Thirdly, are you on and medications like benzodiazepines or anti psychotics?  These meds will dull or even outright stop you from tripping.


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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: impaired420]
    #23670851 - 09/23/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I got a growkit from Zamnesia, but my brother got nice effects from the same batch, so I'm not sure if the shrooms are weak.

Well I boil half a cup water in the microwave, then add the chopped up mushrooms witch a teabag and a bit of sugar,
let is sit for 20 minutes, i always eat the shroom parts it didn't bother me.
My 2.5g dose was with lemon juice added, but I left it sit for 2 hours due some unforeseen events.

I don't take any medications, no alcohol or anything, and fasted before each trip.

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Mortal]
    #23670858 - 09/23/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty sure the kits come with multi spores. Even two mushrooms growing next to each other will be different as far as potency goes.

Some people seem to be more sensitive than others.

I'd say don't give up, and next time you make a tea use a stove top, bring the water to a boil then reduce to simmer and simmer the mushrooms for 15-20 minutes.

Converting with citric acid will make the come up a lot faster and pronounced, try it again maybe.

Also look into PF tek, I wouldn't touch a kit with a ten foot pole personally.


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To embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." -Albert Einstein


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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: impaired420]
    #23670875 - 09/23/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I'm more tolerant to them, or the mushrooms are just weak, I can always take more,
problem is it feels like a higher dose will cause a full blackout, I was close to it last time.

Forcing a trip might be bad, but on my 3.5g trip I was able to see stuff with my eyes closed if I focused on something, like space or people,
unlike with the 5g trip where my thoughts fell apart.

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Mortal]
    #23670901 - 09/23/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Each experience will be different from the previous.
The active content could produce this as well as set and setting and fluctuations in biochemistry.

It's always best to pick a dose and stick to it. Redosing on mushrooms is only good for prolonging an experience, tolerance sets in so fast that it doesn't do much else unless you eat the same amount or more.

Maybe you are expecting too much? If you where on the verge of blacking out I'd say you where tripping pretty damn hard.


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To embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." -Albert Einstein


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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: impaired420]
    #23670971 - 09/23/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I had read a lot of trip reports, people had amazing spiritual experiences, or just seeing fun visuals,
this is what I wanted, but of course I don't know if such an experience is typical or not.

Blackout might not be the best word, I felt these extreme heavy waves pulling me into the bed with a very loud increasing ringing sound,
and for a few second there was emptiness, maybe this is ego death?
It only happened 4-5 times at the peak.

I wait a few weeks then eat maybe 7g, if it didn't do me any good then I go back to 3.5g and use up my remaining stuff

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: impaired420]
    #23670999 - 09/23/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The last thing you mentioned about 5g making your thoughts fall apart doesn't sound so unordinary. I've never been that deep, but I've heard many a personal testimony describe high doses as just utterly confusing.

Are you a particularly spiritual person in general? I think psychedelics have a tendency to act as a catalyst for profound experiences. If you have a predisposition to have such experiences, psychs may bring that out. In other words, I wouldn't think of mushrooms as having the power to create a profound experience, but instead produce a headspace that enables the seeker to create that experience themselves. But that may be a matter of opinion.

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Earth.Being]
    #23671075 - 09/23/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe I had unrealistic expectations based on some trip reports, basically what I wanted is to reconnect with old myself,
I was extremely emotional years ago but actively removed them from my life, and now it seems like a mistake.
I hoped the mushrooms might break the surface.

Anyway if it doesn't work, recreational lower doses still could be beneficial

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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Mortal]
    #23671124 - 09/23/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well brother, I had the same intentions and they have helped me tremendously.

My advice is to go onto the trip blank, no expectations and let it flow.

It's like when you're looking for something you'll never find it, as soon as you stop looking it's right in front of your face.

Maybe you're looking too hard.


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To embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." -Albert Einstein


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Re: Looking for some tripping advice [Re: Earth.Being]
    #23671133 - 09/23/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Earth.Being said:
The last thing you mentioned about 5g making your thoughts fall apart doesn't sound so unordinary. I've never been that deep, but I've heard many a personal testimony describe high doses as just utterly confusing.

Are you a particularly spiritual person in general? I think psychedelics have a tendency to act as a catalyst for profound experiences. If you have a predisposition to have such experiences, psychs may bring that out. In other words, I wouldn't think of mushrooms as having the power to create a profound experience, but instead produce a headspace that enables the seeker to create that experience themselves. But that may be a matter of opinion.




I like it,  they truly are catalysts, it's up to our own personal interpretation that we draw meaningful or unmeaningful conclusions not just from psychedelics but any experience really.

"Jim really enjoyed the roller coaster, he thought it was fun and challenging. Tim did not like the roller coaster he thought it was scary and intense."

Perception breeds your reality.


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By widening our circle of compassion,
To embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." -Albert Einstein


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