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HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY?
    #23670525 - 09/23/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I am going to life in color tomorrow night (worlds largest paint party) Im driving up to dallas to attend it and I am wanting to trip while I am there! I am not an extremely experienced mushroom user. I was an avid pot smoker for a long time, 6-7 grams of medical a day plus shatter that i made and e-liquid. Anyways i got put on probation in January and have not smoked pot since, then in febuary I started to get into mushrooms for their lack of appearance in drug tests and I have always wanted to experience them. To the point: First time i did them i took a gram at a time over a 4 hour period because i didnt know how it would affect me and i got to 3 grams and felt pretty great but nothing too intense. The second time I had about 3.5 grams and felt wicked awesome, i had the moving textures of things and vibrant colors through my TV and everything around me, then my friend who was sober had to leave to go to work and I lost my shit and got crazy depressed. I felt alone in the world and it was a horrible feeling and the mushrooms were quite strong, ended up having my girlfriend calm me down as we watched Alice in Wonderland, that did the trick. Third time: I took the same does of 3.5 Gs and was feeling phenomenal then an hour and a half into it my girlfriend started havign a bad trip, and i tried to calm her down at the same time making me freak out and everything turned clay-figurish for a brief period of time, She didnt calm down and it proceeded to ruin my trip. After that incident I did not take any mushrooms for several months I just saved them for a better time out o respect of the mushroom. I hate the taste of these mushrooms that i have and i have fairly bad teeth in the back and mushroom bits would jab against my gums and give me toothaches, so I started capsulating them, cut them up by hand and put them in fairly large capsules, i got to where i could distribute 3.5 gs  into three capsules. Well i took my capsules and the high was extremely mild and took forever to come on, again, same problem the next time with the cpasules at the same dosage. I hear mushrooms have a long shelf life but my dealer probably didnt know i was gonna hang on to them for as long as i did, fast forward: I have had these mushrooms for a total of 7 months, they have been stored in a brown paper sack which i was told was best so no condensation or mold would get to them. I want to capsulate them again for life in color. Do i need to take more or are mushrooms just bad?


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun] * 1
    #23670596 - 09/23/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I find with my homegrown and wild caught shrooms, they start to lose potency at about 6 months. I store mine in plastic baggies to avoid them going stale.

I would up thd dosage to 4 grams if u can stomach all those capsules.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23670622 - 09/23/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you LogicaL Chaos, I can sure handle as many capsules as I need to take I was wondering if you have ever experienced them in capsules? If they cant break down in the body properly or what? And the significant difference between my eating 3.5 gs to popping 3.5gs is extreme. Virtually non effective when I had the capsules but no idea if that is a possible amount of potency loss or just because of the capsules? I was thinking about taking 7 gs im just a little nervous because that would be the largest amount I have ever taken and I will also be tripping in public for the first time ever. When I bought them I got 2 ounces before I ever even tried them before lol


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun] * 1
    #23670652 - 09/23/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

7 grams is a huge dose for a beginning, too much in my opnion.

Never done capsules, so cant comment on that.

But i can assume that it the capsules will make a slower come up, but the end result should be a strong trip, just takes longer.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23670811 - 09/23/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've had my mushies for almost a year and they haven't lost very much potency. I keep mine in an air tight jar with silica packets to absorb any moisture and I keep the jar in a dark cool cupboard.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: impaired420]
    #23670878 - 09/23/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In the future I will use your method impaired420. Just concerned about mine that have been in a paper sack :/ & LogicaL, not a good idea even if  the potency is weaker? I have handled the 3.5 on several occasions and actually made it to 4.5 once that i forgot to mention, i had taken an extra gram after the trip had begun to prolong it some more. Thank you!


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun] * 1
    #23670887 - 09/23/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah anything permeable isn't desirable, plastic/paper both will allow oxygen in, ultimately degrading the potency.

You want them unexposed to the fallowing for the best storage possible.

No oxygen
No moisture
No light.

As far as the dosage goes it's hard to say because each mushroom varies in potency, I'd say you should be fine taking the same amount you're comfortable with (3.5g) or maybe even just 3g. You could probably do 4g too without much difference from previous experiences but you just never know, they could possibly catapult you into a powerful psychedelic experience...


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: impaired420]
    #23670921 - 09/23/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ok and in case the potency diminished too much do you think it would be wise to start with 4gs and then have a few extra on me to take an hour into it in case it is not strong enough? Will I still get a peak in that case? Go to youtube and search Life in Color. I want to be feeling good when I go there and being sober is not on my to do list! It has been 4 months since my last time taking them I believe, maybe less and I didnt get anything at all out of it hardly and it was a disappointing waste of money :/ I just want to make sure I can get the job done. Have you ever had experience taking mushrooms in a public setting like that? I've always done them in the safety of my house.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun] * 1
    #23671013 - 09/23/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Each experience will be different from the previous.
The active content could produce this as well as set and setting and fluctuations in biochemistry.

It's always best to pick a dose and stick to it. Redosing on mushrooms is only good for prolonging an experience, tolerance sets in so fast that it doesn't do much else unless you eat the same amount or more.

I've never tripped anywhere besides my own home also so idk but if I ever tried it I'd probably shoot for a comfortable dose like 2.5-3grams just to be sure it wouldn't be too intense.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: impaired420] * 1
    #23671025 - 09/23/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i agree.

Redosing in one session just makes things more confusing in the sense of "did i take enough?".

Agree to one dose, take it all at once, and if it doesnt work like u wanted, be patient and save your shrroms for another trip another time.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23671215 - 09/23/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ok guys thank you all I appreciate the feedback! Ill probably just take 5 grams to compensate for lack of potency and hope for the best!


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun]
    #23679346 - 09/26/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well life in color was fun and i got an extremely mild high from 7.5 grams, so I guess it is safe to assume that they did in fact lose potency, i started with an 1/8th and then after an hour and a half I took 4 more grams. No life changing experience from the mushrooms though :/


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: 420Leprechaun]
    #23679371 - 09/26/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like they indeed lost their potency.

Time to grow yer own :yesnod:


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23679501 - 09/26/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

^^^^agreed.
In four months-ish time you can be eating fresh shrooms directly off a cake and... :breakthrough:


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: impaired420]
    #23681666 - 09/26/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Even weak shrooms are stronger fresh.

Freshness makes all the difference with shrooms. It is organic and organic things decompose over time.


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Re: HELP HAVE THEY LOST POTENCY? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23682598 - 09/27/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am seeking into growing my own right now. Where do you recommend I get my spores from? And what is the grow time I am expected to have? And also  I hear about multiple types aside from regular strains, not cubes but something that starts with an a? Im curious about what a first time grower such as my self would be better off on a first culture? Thanks!


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