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usulpsychonaut


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There Is Always Love in Hatred
#23669891 - 09/23/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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A person who claims to love everyone can truly love nobody. What value does love have if it is extended to everybody? Love, by definition, is exclusionary. And in order to love somebody or something you must hate all that threaten it. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. A person who hates nothing and nobody cannot love anything or anybody.
In fact National Socialists are the only fully human.
The rest of the muddled masses are severely hateful, less than human.
Clearly Hitler was the most loving, peaceful statesman in History.
All the slander and lies about him are entirely hateful and those who believe them are sad sub-humans.
Eckhart Tolle is an expression of seething hatred.
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Peyote Road
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I love my cat even though she is a threat to the songbirds which I also love, so your logic doesn't hold true for me.
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secondorder
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Can't tell if you're trolling or not but I may as well respond in case you're being serious.
Love is simply having a share in someone else's happiness. To say that you love someone is simply to say that you genuinely want them to be happy, because you enjoy their happiness. To say that you hate someone is to say that you genuinely want them to suffer, because you enjoy it for whatever reason/s. Once you see that everyone you've categorized as love-worthy or hate-worthy, is really a part of yourself in some deep, important way, you will find yourself helplessly loving all conscious creatures from that moment forward. Spreading flourishing and happiness is simply a practice of self-healing.
Hate, conversely, I think is impossible once you see that nobody is deeply responsible for the nature of their character. Blame, hate, enjoyment in the suffering of others etc. becomes nonsensical when you put the details under a magnifying glass.
Hate is a kind of confusion. Love is understanding. You can only hate someone to the degree that you are ignorant and closed minded. The more you understand and the more open you are, the more compassion and love becomes an essential part of your being.
Edited by secondorder (09/25/16 05:03 AM)
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sudly
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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: secondorder] 1
#23672683 - 09/23/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love is selfless care, all else is selfish desire, which is okay too.
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demiu5
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usulpsychonaut said: ..............And in order to love somebody or something you must hate all that threaten it.
that word is a real turn off, right there
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akira_akuma
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usulpsychonaut said: A person who claims to love everyone can truly love nobody. What value does love have if it is extended to everybody? Love, by definition, is exclusionary. And in order to love somebody or something you must hate all that threaten it. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. A person who hates nothing and nobody cannot love anything or anybody.
In fact National Socialists are the only fully human.
The rest of the muddled masses are severely hateful, less than human.
Clearly Hitler was the most loving, peaceful statesman in History.
All the slander and lies about him are entirely hateful and those who believe them are sad sub-humans.
Eckhart Tolle is an expression of seething hatred.
you befuddled ones make me laugh. the impotency of xenophobia and bigotry and racism. all so funny how weak humans are.
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Shroom_Goddess
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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#23679547 - 09/26/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hate without love is more or less just indifference.
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Jokeshopbeard
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Shroom_Goddess said: Hate without love is more or less just indifference.
Basically, IMO.
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Crumist
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No, love is not "by definition" exclusionary. To millions of faithful around the world, love is not relative, but an absolute and inherent property of their godhead.
"Love thine enemy"
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: Crumist] 2
#23683168 - 09/27/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMO hate and love are two sides of the same coin.
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quinn
some kinda love


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Peyote Road said: I love my cat even though she is a threat to the songbirds which I also love, so your logic doesn't hold true for me.
this. i didnt even reach the second paragraph before started replying that the op was wrong.
but then hitler? 
as a jew who's great grandfather was 1 of only 2 survivors from a family of 10 i can happily say i hope you die in a ditch usulpsychonaut.
here is some love for you:
 
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LunarEclipse
Enlil's Official Story


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usulpsychonaut said: A person who claims to love everyone can truly love nobody. What value does love have if it is extended to everybody? Love, by definition, is exclusionary. And in order to love somebody or something you must hate all that threaten it. Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. A person who hates nothing and nobody cannot love anything or anybody.
In fact National Socialists are the only fully human.
The rest of the muddled masses are severely hateful, less than human.
Clearly Hitler was the most loving, peaceful statesman in History.
All the slander and lies about him are entirely hateful and those who believe them are sad sub-humans.
Eckhart Tolle is an expression of seething hatred.
I'm in love with Hillary. She is clearly the most loving giving statesperson in history. Men can't begin to compare. Fuck Tolle.
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usulpsychonaut


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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: Peyote Road]
#23689267 - 09/29/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm processing these weird accusations of hatred that come at me. The point is that you love your cat, if a pitbull were terrorizing and threatening the life of your cat and there was nothing you could do about it would be natural for you to hate the pitbull.
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viktor
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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: quinn]
#23689578 - 09/29/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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quinn said:
as a jew who's great grandfather was 1 of only 2 survivors from a family of 10 i can happily say i hope you die in a ditch usulpsychonaut.
here is some love for you:
  
Goodness, you're as bad as Markos. Is it the infant genital mutilation that makes you guys like this?
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akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: viktor]
#23689773 - 09/29/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hardline reactionary wooist^
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yeah



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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23690038 - 09/29/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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She is as fallible as any human. I am tentative of her because of her health problems.
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RJ Tubs 202


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usulpsychonaut said:
And in order to love somebody or something you must hate all that threaten it.
If we fear losing love, or the object of our love, that's selfish desire.
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secondorder
Amanda Hug'n'kiss



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Re: There Is Always Love in Hatred [Re: viktor]
#23696139 - 10/01/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Goodness, you're as bad as Markos.
Woah, let's not go too far...
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